Fuel Prices.

[XXX-er]

A new 20lbs tank is cheaper than getting an old one recert’d here, it’s almost break even with a 30lbs tank if you get a fill with the recert. 60lbs and 100lbs tanks are worth the recert.

I’ve done the ol’ swap with an expired tank, but some of those refurbished exchange tanks look worse than my old one. Old valve still in place, with shoddy quick spray job.

Yup ^^ its cheaper to just buy a brand new 20lb-er so i just take it out to leroy at that redneck gas station for a refill and maybe visit the telkwa mall, AKA the garbage dump

my buddy johnny the quintessential dirt bag figured out that if a cylinder is out of date people don't take it home they just leave it out at the refilling outlet so the unrefillable by law cylinders will often still have propane in them so he just shakes a few of the dozens sitting out there and takes a couple home to run his BBQ

same guy would get free paint at the telkwa mall

the dirtbag lifestyle eventualy caught up with him and he died of cancer, get the scope kids

[frorider]

Historical context. Psychologically, people respond when crude goes way over $100….

[mud]

US is banning Russia oil, expect markets to shit their pants.

[AdironRider]

It is going to be a wild ride but fucking finally.

[SumJongGuy]

US is banning Russia oil, expect markets to shit their pants.

Nothing compared to banning refined gas.. That's 20% of all imports... Crude oil is only 3.5%.

As for the economics... the best way to reduce the impact and keep prices from getting WAY higher is to reduce demand and buy less gas.. Ride your bikes, take the smaller vehicles when possible, work remotely as much as possible.. That way people who have no choice but to pay at the pump get a little help from folks with more options..

[frorider]

US is banning Russia oil, expect markets to shit their pants.

Yup that’s why I posted the graph. Crude could go above $160, so I thought historical context would be useful.

And yes this is our WWII moment where our consumerist society can make choices that help the war effort. Fuck pootin.

[dunfree]

Yup that’s why I posted the graph. Crude could go above $160, so I thought historical context would be useful.

And yes this is our WWII moment where our consumerist society can make choices that help the war effort. Fuck pootin.

As if anything can come between us consumers and their “need” for huge pedestrian killing gas guzzling rigs

[ötzi]

Nothing compared to banning refined gas.. That's 20% of all imports... Crude oil is only 3.5%..

You keep bringing up that 20 or 21% figure but it's 20% of gas imports, and gas imports are a small fraction of US gas consumption - I haven't been able to find that number (have at it, it's not easy to find) but the DOE says the US produces "almost all" of the gas consumed in the country. So it's 20% (or 21%) of a relatively small number.

[sirbumpsalot]

Average commuter bike speed = 12-18 mph
Average car consumption = 25mpg

1.5 to 2 hours of riding to save one gallon!

Go get em tiger!

[dunfree]

Average commuter bike speed = 12-18 mph
Average car consumption = 25mpg

1.5 to 2 hours of riding to save one gallon!

Go get em tiger!

At some point people just make a choice to be fucking idiots, don’t they? They park their fat ass in the burbs, gorge propaganda, and check the fuck out. Talk about a country where absolute morons aren’t starving to death

[oldnew_guy]

So this is the part where the boomers who financed 20 years of war with millennial and genX lives and trillions of dollars in debt and nary a peep about sacrifice seriously try to tell us it’s time for national sacrifice?

(/snark)

[SumJongGuy]

You keep bringing up that 20 or 21% figure but it's 20% of gas imports, and gas imports are a small fraction of US gas consumption - I haven't been able to find that number (have at it, it's not easy to find) but the DOE says the US produces "almost all" of the gas consumed in the country. So it's 20% (or 21%) of a relatively small number.

Here ya go. Agreed it's a bigger % of a smaller %..

The United States received more of its imported gasoline from Russia in 2021 than from any other country, at 21%
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrobe...h=35481e64aae8

[SumJongGuy]

Average commuter bike speed = 12-18 mph
Average car consumption = 25mpg

1.5 to 2 hours of riding to save one gallon!

Go get em tiger!

My bike is gas powered too but gets 100+ MPG tiger...

[mcphee]

Can anyone find what US gasoline consumption/year and how much of that is imported? That might help calm SJG and give him some perspective.

SJG-I guarantee that we do not import 20% of our yearly gasoline consumption from Russia.

[XXX-er]

i been reading the USA is not importing so much oil cuz they can frack almost everything they need now days, true or not ?

if you gots good weather for more than less of the year one of them e-bikes made from chinesium are 2-3 K and would save the end loser a lot of money

[oldnew_guy]

Just a couple of years ago we were taking about how RUS and OPEC were intentionally producing enough to hold crude prices at the level where it suppressed US domestic fracking, which needs what ~$90/barrel or something? So in theory, we should start to see more US production come on line.

[skaredshtles]

US is banning Russia oil, expect markets to shit their pants.

Apparently the markets are viewing this information positively...

[Ted Striker]

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[refried]

I filled the Volvo yesterday with alcohol free regular for $5.09 a gallon, there was no Premium or mid grade, and none available from the distributor. Price for regular at most places in the morning were about $4.15 if you paid cash (10 cents more for card) , Surprisingly it was$4.50 at the reservation. By the afternoon most places had raised their prices by 15 cents. I checked the prices when I got home and it was $4.79 for regular. I have to fill the truck, it was $180 the last time, I'm not looking forward to doing it today.

[Pinned]

12?! WTF do you drive? An armored Humvee?

F150. Uphill, snowstorm, headwinds...perfect storm for bad fuel economy. Usually closer to 18 on the highway, but that 12mpg day really hurt when I filled up across the border in Canada.

[XXX-er]

" please god let there be another oil boom, I promise not to fuck it up this time "

a bumper sticker from Alberta ^^ several oil booms ago

they must have been praying, I wonder how they fuck it up this time ?

[skaredshtles]

Still $3.56/g at the local Costco... guess I should prolly fill up.

[TNKen]

Diesel this weekend in East Tennessee on 3/4/2022 was $3.99-$4.09; today, 3/8/2022, $4.39-$4.59.

Around town 15, highway 19-22 for a 2500 Silverado Duramax ZR1. I think the High Country was geared differently, as I had significantly better gas mileage.

[Falcon3]

Watching Gas Buddy app as I drive across Idaho. Stations whose prices haven’t updated since yesterday are often showing 30-40cents cheaper than now. You know they didn’t all get their bulk tanks filled in the last 24 hours so it’s just price gouging

[heckacali]

$6.19 for regular here in truckee
$6.39 for diesel