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[uglymoney]

The 82 Brahma 180 wants to be driven and isn't exactly relaxed. Edge hold not enough better than the 88 to make it worth it imo, they are definitely not ice skates. 82 Feels unwieldy off piste and is not confidence inspiring off the cord.

The 82 is fun as all hell on steeper groomers where you can bend them and ski them aggressively at speed. For me they fall down on the flats when I wish I could just lay them over and roll they lay over and just go straight unless I coach myself into skiing properly.

I just wonder if you'd be better off going Firebird.

I have the black Brahma 88 in 180 now as an upgrade to my OG' Brahma and really stopped using the 82 mostly. So intuitive and good at everything. go anywhere, rip cord, hold up a bit on ice, whatevs.

My understanding (Blister ageeed as id's last year) is the latest Brahma 88 isn't as relaxed or as versatile as the previous (black) version but haven't skied them.

There are some B82 reviews in here somewhere. A couple guys love them. Others not. I'm just a meh. Has to be better options.

[sf]

I’m one of the guys who find the 82 allright, but not demanding as some claim.

I don’t really think it’s what you look for though, as they have a bit too much tip rocker to hook up easily on harder surfaces. Demands more commitment at least.

Between the Rustler and the Heads I think you should be pretty well covered, but of course….n+1 always applies.

I would check out the Kendo. If that thing grips like a 88-waisted Mantra 102 you should really be happy. And it will be a lot better off piste tja the 82s

Or, for maximum TGR-approval and less money, pick up one of the outlet R99 AMs at Marshalls. Should be like a more manageable Kastle

[Gweilo]

Does anyone has any intel or had the chance to try the new 192 Rustler 10 yet ? Green 192 R11 is one of my all time fav and I was wondering wether the 192 R10 would follow a similar path (192 and 188 R11 are two very different beasts).

So far there are only reviews of the 180 which seems a little beefier than the previous one but nothing on the 186 and the 192, which should hopefully be stiffer.

Thinking of mounting those with Duke PTs for a soft snow daily driver and a complement to Firebirds HRC to travel light and cover all situations (already have Spurs, Brahmas and Zero Gs for special ops)

I know it’s still pre season but there are deals coming up and I might have to buy without trying. Did anyone try/flex both or has any insight already ?

I am 6.2/209 on the agressive side.

Thank you [emoji1317]

[SoVT Joey]

Does anyone has any intel or had the chance to try the new 192 Rustler 10 yet ? Green 192 R11 is one of my all time fav and I was wondering wether the 192 R10 would follow a similar path (192 and 188 R11 are two very different beasts).

So far there are only reviews of the 180 which seems a little beefier than the previous one but nothing on the 186 and the 192, which should hopefully be stiffer.

Thinking of mounting those with Duke PTs for a soft snow daily driver and a complement to Firebirds HRC to travel light and cover all situations (already have Spurs, Brahmas and Zero Gs for special ops)

I know it’s still pre season but there are deals coming up and I might have to buy without trying. Did anyone try/flex both or has any insight already ?

I am 6.2/209 on the agressive side.

Thank you [emoji1317]

I haven’t skied them, but from the gear 30 and some other reviews they still don’t sound like they are all the way to where they should be compared to the 9 and 11. It looks like you are a heavy blizzard guy, but there are some really good other options in that waist range that would work, like a Atris. That paired with a duke pt is a blast.

[Gweilo]

Indeed, I am all Blizzard from long ago. Skis are like wine or car seats… I loved and got used to what we call here « le touché de neige » of their skis from the start and I try to support the brand !

Unless they can’t eventually get the R10 right but I am a believer [emoji1695]

[wasatchback]

Does anyone has any intel or had the chance to try the new 192 Rustler 10 yet ? Green 192 R11 is one of my all time fav and I was wondering wether the 192 R10 would follow a similar path (192 and 188 R11 are two very different beasts).

So far there are only reviews of the 180 which seems a little beefier than the previous one but nothing on the 186 and the 192, which should hopefully be stiffer.

Thinking of mounting those with Duke PTs for a soft snow daily driver and a complement to Firebirds HRC to travel light and cover all situations (already have Spurs, Brahmas and Zero Gs for special ops)

I know it’s still pre season but there are deals coming up and I might have to buy without trying. Did anyone try/flex both or has any insight already ?

I am 6.2/209 on the agressive side.

Thank you [emoji1317]

The 192s weren’t produced last spring so the ones showing up in stores now are the first ones available. Doubt anyone has skied them yet. For me the 186 R10 was a significant improvement over the previous 188 R10. Psyched to try the 192 in the next few months.

[googledidoo]

Yeah - they are not going to blow your socks off like the OGs did in specific conditions, but they are much more well rounded than all the previous Cochise’s, which were best in class for what they did but kinda one trick pony’s. The new C106 is a perfect daily driver for a directional skier who likes the ski the fall line off groom.

Jonathan’s quote from the podcast: “I have many days where I think today would be a great Cochise day” which I think sums it up. Unless there is over 6” of new snow or unless I’m skiing groomers all day; I’m on the Cochise. I sold my Bonafides because the new Cochise works so well.


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Why is the Cochise better than the Bonafides in your opinion? Wouldn't the Cochise be better in firm conditions?

[Gweilo]

The 192s weren’t produced last spring so the ones showing up in stores now are the first ones available. Doubt anyone has skied them yet. For me the 186 R10 was a significant improvement over the previous 188 R10. Psyched to try the 192 in the next few months.

How different do you expect them to be from the 186 ? Might have to choose one of the two by the end of the week so I am curious to know what you are looking forward to ?

I am tempted to go shorter since I want to use those in the backcountry but I wouldn’t mind extra float, stability at speed and edge hold considering the rocker. I found the 192 R11 more directional than the 188 so they will hopefully follow a similar path (different skis lengths = different types of skiers) while still being somewhat nimble and versatile (19.5 radius vs 23 for the R11).

[jsnfschr]

Hey folks. Looking for a little advice.

For reference, I'm 6'4 and hovering between 250-260, but athletic and a strong skier. All time favourite skis were 194 Surface New Life's and currently on ON3P Jeronimo's. I like a stiff ski.

I'm currently working on building my first touring set-up and looking at a few differently Blizzard set-ups (Hustle 11 (188), Hustle 10 (188), Zero G 105 (188)). This will be a dedicated touring set up, but at my size, I think a little beef in the skis is probably going to work better than something super lightweight. Already picked up boots (Radical Pro's), so skis/bindings are next.

Thoughts?

[gregL]

Hey folks. Looking for a little advice.

For reference, I'm 6'4 and hovering between 250-260, but athletic and a strong skier. All time favourite skis were 194 Surface New Life's and currently on ON3P Jeronimo's. I like a stiff ski.

I'm currently working on building my first touring set-up and looking at a few differently Blizzard set-ups (Hustle 11 (188), Hustle 10 (188), Zero G 105 (188)). This will be a dedicated touring set up, but at my size, I think a little beef in the skis is probably going to work better than something super lightweight. Already picked up boots (Radical Pro's), so skis/bindings are next.

The Hustle 10 is my favorite of the Hustle series, both in terms of skiability and width; the H11 is kind of overkill for spring touring at 114mm in the waist and it has a loose and surfy feel you may not mesh with.

It depends, though, on what sort of "touring" you have in mind - if you envision doing a bunch of spring volcano summits or week-long traverses, the weight of the ZG105 would make it your best choice.

If you're doing in and out of bounds at the resort, or using this setup as a travel ski and also skiing lifts, or if you plan to use a hybrid binding like a Shift or a Duke PT, then heavier (Hustle) makes sense.

Learning to live with a light ski takes a measure of restraint and adaptability, it certainly won't ski like a heavier ski especially for someone your size, but sometimes light is the only choice.

[gregL]

PS You should demo a Hustle 10 before you pull the trigger if possible - if going the heavier route, I would be inclined to do something like a Tecton on a 186 Rustler 10 instead of a 188 Hustle 10, and it's probably a little lighter AND skis better.

[gregL]

Unless they can’t eventually get the R10 right but I am a believer [emoji1695]

They got it right this year. I didn't get along well with the first gen Rustler 10 - too hooky feeling, not from the tip but the entire ski - which was unsettling at speed. They fixed it this season and I've got a 186 R10 in the quiver now.

[bodywhomper]

I’m trying to help a friend who’ll be part of my crew at the ski swap on Saturday. Strong skier, grew up in a ski town, raced into college. Very fit/strong. Mid-40’s. About 5’1” and under 100#. Wants sheeva’s, I’m guessing 10’s, but I’m waiting confirmation. Has black pearls. What length should she be looking for with the 9s, 10s, and 11s?

[Gweilo]

They got it right this year. I didn't get along well with the first gen Rustler 10 - too hooky feeling, not from the tip but the entire ski - which was unsettling at speed. They fixed it this season and I've got a 186 R10 in the quiver now.

Thank you ! Had the chance to hand flex the 186 and considering the rocker I think I will go for the 192.


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[Gweilo]

Looks like the carbon drive has been updated in this year zero Gs (3.0 vs 2.0). Does anyone been on the 2024 version of those skis yet ?


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[twat]

Looks like the carbon drive has been updated in this year zero Gs (3.0 vs 2.0). Does anyone been on the 2024 version of those skis yet ?


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Sometimes companies just update the carbon in the catalog, but the ski stayed the same.

[gregL]

Looks like the carbon drive has been updated in this year zero Gs (3.0 vs 2.0). Does anyone been on the 2024 version of those skis yet ?

Carbon Drive 3.0 debuted last year, the carbon no longer wraps over the sidewalls at tip and tail but is one straight piece. They are the Goldilocks version of the Zero G IMO, with the first version being a little stubborn and needing de-tuning for most people and the second version giving up some of the precision Blizzard is known for, I like them a lot (have the 95 and 105).

[gregL]

I’m trying to help a friend who’ll be part of my crew at the ski swap on Saturday. Strong skier, grew up in a ski town, raced into college. Very fit/strong. Mid-40’s. About 5’1” and under 100#. Wants sheeva’s, I’m guessing 10’s, but I’m waiting confirmation. Has black pearls. What length should she be looking for with the 9s, 10s, and 11s?

Which Black Pearl, and what length is she on now? Ex-racer length for Sheeva's is probably 162 in the new sizing range, 164 in the old. If teaching or skiing with family, 157/156. If in doubt, I'd size down with Black Pearls and up with Sheevas.

[bodywhomper]

Thanks. Just heard back: 152 black pearls. 88mm. Don’t know vintage.

[gregL]

Thanks. Just heard back: 152 black pearls. 88mm. Don’t know vintage.

Then 157/156 depending on which year of Sheeva (new sizing this season).

[bodywhomper]

Thx!

[Gweilo]

Carbon Drive 3.0 debuted last year, the carbon no longer wraps over the sidewalls at tip and tail but is one straight piece. They are the Goldilocks version of the Zero G IMO, with the first version being a little stubborn and needing de-tuning for most people and the second version giving up some of the precision Blizzard is known for, I like them a lot (have the 95 and 105).

Thought I’d asked again here so everyone can chip in or benefit from the answer. Just pulled the trigger on the 2024 version of the 105 but I noticed the two bumps are back ! Since I have always mounted my blizzards on the line (Brahma, rustler, firebird and spur) and have always been happy with the skiing I wonder which line I should go for ??? Is the first one centered à la Rustler and the second one backwards a la Bonafide ? Bit confused here [emoji51]

Btw [mention]wasatchback [/mention] we’ve just had a headstart with snow in Europe and I should be on the 192 R10 pretty soon. Really looking forward to it !

[twat]

Thought I’d asked again here so everyone can chip in or benefit from the answer. Just pulled the trigger on the 2024 version of the 105 but I noticed the two bumps are back ! Since I have always mounted my blizzards on the line (Brahma, rustler, firebird and spur) and have always been happy with the skiing I wonder which line I should go for ??? Is the first one centered à la Rustler and the second one backwards a la Bonafide ? Bit confused here [emoji51]

Btw [mention]wasatchback [/mention] we’ve just had a headstart with snow in Europe and I should be on the 192 R10 pretty soon. Really looking forward to it !

What is your bsl? How long is the ski?

[wasatchback]

Thought I’d asked again here so everyone can chip in or benefit from the answer. Just pulled the trigger on the 2024 version of the 105 but I noticed the two bumps are back ! Since I have always mounted my blizzards on the line (Brahma, rustler, firebird and spur) and have always been happy with the skiing I wonder which line I should go for ??? Is the first one centered à la Rustler and the second one backwards a la Bonafide ? Bit confused here [emoji51]

Btw [mention]wasatchback [/mention] we’ve just had a headstart with snow in Europe and I should be on the 192 R10 pretty soon. Really looking forward to it !

The forward mounting bump is the right one.

[gregL]

Thought I’d asked again here so everyone can chip in or benefit from the answer. Just pulled the trigger on the 2024 version of the 105 but I noticed the two bumps are back ! Since I have always mounted my blizzards on the line (Brahma, rustler, firebird and spur) and have always been happy with the skiing I wonder which line I should go for ??? Is the first one centered à la Rustler and the second one backwards a la Bonafide ? Bit confused here.

Both of my ZG 105's are on the back bump (180 and 172) and I'm happy with it. The usual considerations apply: If the ski is borderline too long, going forward will help with ease of turn initiation; if you go back you'll gain a little flotation and straight line stability. If your BSL is longer than average for the ski length, going forward will put in a more "average" balance point. Me: 5'8" and 175 lbs., running a 288mm BSL with both skis.

(I have skinny friends who weigh less than me and stand 6'2" with a 312mm BSL who I'd advise to mount at the forward bump on the same skis).