Following your passion

**SmokinRox** · 10-06-2014, 10:03 AM

Follow your dreams kids.......just not the one where you wake up in a Turkish prison with swords for arms.

**DBdude** · 10-06-2014, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by stfu&gbtw

your opinion of RAID configurations for arrays containing large volumes?

raid 5? how important is read or write performance

**stfu&gbtw** · 10-06-2014, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by DBdude

raid 5? how important is read or write performance

Go sit down. The adults are talking.

**DBdude** · 10-06-2014, 11:16 AM

school me big boy

**MontuckyFried** · 10-06-2014, 11:21 AM

Having been to quite a few art/performance/poetry exhibitions, I must say that I agree that many people seriously should not quit their day jobs. I know art is subjective and all, but some people REALLY suck at it no matter how you slice it. Some people are lucky enough to have a trust fund/rich parents/sugar daddy to support their passions, no matter how good or bad they might be at them. The rest of us have bills to pay and should really stick to what we're good at...keeping our passions as hobbies.

For example. Try as I might, I pretty much suck at skiing. Sure, I love it enough to move to a resort area so I can do it as much as possible, BUT I sure as hell ain't getting spancered any time soon...or ever...no matter HOW hard I try at it. I may love it, but you're not going to see me rocking a GoPro any time soon, if ever, and hopefully nobody has any footage of me skiing. I will not ever be showing my mad skillz at the local theatre. Many so-called "artists", "poets", and "performers" should probably not bother exhibiting their great works either. Spend some time in Austin, Portland, SF, or any other place with an art scene and you'd know exactly what I'm talking about. Sure, there actually are some great artists, athletes, and others out there who rock at what they do, but that still doesn't negate the fact that WAY too many people wrongfully believe they should be following their passion. The sad part is how many of these people are under the delusion that they're actually good at what they do. Lot of smugness out there amongst them.

**stfu&gbtw** · 10-06-2014, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by DBdude

school me big boy

Here's a quick overview...

**riser4** · 10-06-2014, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by stfu&gbtw

Well, before we let that get out of hand, may I ask your opinion of RAID configurations for arrays containing large volumes?

RAID is so 20th century. Fuck that shit.

**DJSapp** · 10-06-2014, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by char

I'd like to know where these millions of un-filled jobs are that he is talking about.

All along the west coast there is a shortage of Union Ironworkers, Electricians, Laborers and Equipment Operators. I can give you the phone number of the local Business agents in LA, SF, Portland or Seattle and have you working tomorrow. I'm absolutely serious. Right now the ironworkers are coming from CO and UT to SF, because they are getting paid a premium.

It is hard, body breaking work, but we did the math once and (with student loans accounted for) a union ironworker starting at age 18 as an apprentice and then climbing the ranks to Foreman would make more money in his career and have a bigger retirement than a General Practice Doctor when they retire at 65.

**DBdude** · 10-06-2014, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by stfu&gbtw

Here's a quick overview...

thanx, good article - I have never been in a situation where we have lost data in rebuilding a drive - we use 6 and 50

**Tri-Ungulate** · 10-06-2014, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by Hugh Conway

everybody wants somebody else working a shitty job have it be their passion. treating cancer patients? Noble, shitty.

Not so shitty but also not necessarily very noble.

Not surprisingly, plenty go into the field for remuneration purposes. Some really do like the challenge, the cutting-edge biology aspects and the occasional Caulfield-esque nature of the job and truly are following a passion as such. Honestly though, I would venture to guess that such individuals would comprise less than half of the practitioners.

Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper

True enough. But an oncologist I know pretty well seems really interested in the long-term care of patients, rather than getting a part in a movie. I'm pretty glad for that.

Depends on the movie. TGR or MSP production? As the next James Deen? Hell, they all really want to direct.

**DBdude** · 10-06-2014, 12:29 PM

so doing some quick checking, I am not a networking person, we run a 36 TB SAN and lose a drive a month on average, with 2 hot spares. the raid is 5 mirrored - raid 50 - 18 spindles/drives mirrored, for a total of 36 drives over 8 arrays. We have been running this setup for 5 years

It has occurred that we have one drive rebuilding while another fails and as I said we have never lost a drives data from an unrecoverable read error

Make of it what you will

also everything is a VM on our SAN

so yes 50 is better than 5, but we dont run 50 because of UREs but because of the increase in risk of losing multiple drives in an array at the same time, thereby losing the array, so your article doesn't match the experience my org has had over 5 years with a 36 TB SAN

Edited to add
is it that raid 50 reduces the size of the array? thereby reducing the risk of rebuild failure - I will figure it out

sounds like the author is just trying to get published, but what do I know, I'm just a DBA

**Timberridge** · 10-06-2014, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by mtngirl79

There were over 200 applicants and 80 that met the basic requirements for the job i am starting monday. 17 of those will be hired over the next year.

From threatening to fling yourself off a mountaintop 6 months ago, to the top 20%. You've made a remarkable recovery. Kudos.

**Tippster** · 10-06-2014, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by DJSapp

All along the west coast there is a shortage of Union Ironworkers, Electricians, Laborers and Equipment Operators.
...
It is hard, body breaking work,

There's your answer right there. I've posted multiple times that the contractors my wife works with have an incredibly hard time finding reliable non-Hispanic workers despite offering very good pay/benefits packages - easily as good if not better than an entry-level white collar job. The problem is that it's physical labor.

we did a story on dairy farming 3 years ago where this dairy cooperative in Iowa was willing to pay $50k + 2 weeks vacation + Medical to start, along with matching 401K, to run the milking machines - no prior experience necessary. They couldn't fill the positions. Why? Because the working hours were from 3-11am and that was seemingly unacceptable. They showed us email responses to their advertisements that were unbelievable - basically yelling at them for inhumane working conditions bordering on slave labor. It's not their or the cows' fault that those are the hours that they need to be milked.

**DBdude** · 10-06-2014, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by Tippster

There's your answer right there. I've posted multiple times that the contractors my wife works with have an incredibly hard time finding reliable non-Hispanic workers despite offering very good pay/benefits packages - easily as good if not better than an entry-level white collar job. The problem is that it's physical labor.

we did a story on dairy farming 3 years ago where this dairy cooperative in Iowa was willing to pay $50k + 2 weeks vacation + Medical to start, along with matching 401K, to run the milking machines - no prior experience necessary. They couldn't fill the positions. Why? Because the working hours were from 3-11am and that was seemingly unacceptable. They showed us email responses to their advertisements that were unbelievable - basically yelling at them for inhumane working conditions bordering on slave labor. It's not their or the cows' fault that those are the hours that they need to be milked.

man - back in the day, i would have jumped at that

nobody pays that to milk cows in VT

**butterscotch** · 10-06-2014, 12:56 PM

3 pages and no cosmic shame? YOU FUCKIN ROBOTS.

Hugh Conway · 10-06-2014, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by Tippster

There's your answer right there. I've posted multiple times that the contractors my wife works with have an incredibly hard time finding reliable non-Hispanic workers despite offering very good pay/benefits packages - easily as good if not better than an entry-level white collar job. The problem is that it's physical labor.

watch a construction guy try to get laid in DC sometime; that'll answer your question.

given the low unemployment in places like Iowa competent non-methheads can make that and spend time with a family (and most people have families); if they don't care about a family there's other ways to make money. course, if/when the jobs evaporate out there, you'll be moving to find another.

**Tippster** · 10-06-2014, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by DBdude

man - back in the day, i would have jumped at that

nobody pays that to milk cows in VT

I guess when you're desperate... The ICE had been put on high alert in Iowa and these guys were doing their damnedest since they had just lost about 30% of their labor force in a series of raids.

Originally Posted by Hugh Conway

watch a construction guy try to get laid in DC sometime; that'll answer your question.

Sure there might be a couple of Hill staffers or paralegals that would turn their noses up but there are plenty of "normal" people here too, Hugh, just maybe not in the circles you hung out in...

**Benny Profane** · 10-06-2014, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Tippster

There's your answer right there. I've posted multiple times that the contractors my wife works with have an incredibly hard time finding reliable non-Hispanic workers despite offering very good pay/benefits packages - easily as good if not better than an entry-level white collar job. The problem is that it's physical labor.

we did a story on dairy farming 3 years ago where this dairy cooperative in Iowa was willing to pay $50k + 2 weeks vacation + Medical to start, along with matching 401K, to run the milking machines - no prior experience necessary. They couldn't fill the positions. Why? Because the working hours were from 3-11am and that was seemingly unacceptable. They showed us email responses to their advertisements that were unbelievable - basically yelling at them for inhumane working conditions bordering on slave labor. It's not their or the cows' fault that those are the hours that they need to be milked.

I went through three bids to do my stone patio a month ago. The initial service from the white people (who were probably just pimping for their Spanish workers) was awful and drenched in attitude. Pedro, my man who did it, was awesome. On time (hell, done early) and under budget. Nice work. Talked to a landscaping guy at a hoity toity nursery close to here, and for a hundred bucks I got a ridiculous quote, late, and with attitude again. Pedro is getting that money, too.

**DBdude** · 10-06-2014, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Tippster

I guess when you're desperate... The ICE had been put on high alert in Iowa and these guys were doing their damnedest since they had just lost about 30% of their labor force in a series of raids.

and I was

I am pretty sure all the big farms here use mexicans for milking and will hire machine operators for the season, or just sub it out to a contractor with their own equipment

Hugh Conway · 10-06-2014, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Tippster

Sure there might be a couple of Hill staffers or paralegals that would turn their noses up but there are plenty of "normal" people here too, Hugh, just maybe not in the circles you hung out in...

yeah man, it's all me and only me that thinks most of the people inside the beltway are stuckup social climbing assholes. It's not much different in any of the big megapolises; social conditioning that "blue collar" = stupid. Good contractors aren't stupid, neither are good machinists or any other number of highly skilled "blue collar" workers.

**abraham** · 10-06-2014, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by Tippster

I guess when you're desperate...

When my friends are having trouble finding jobs I have seriously suggested they go pick apples or whatever's in season in eastern Wa. I think only one friend has actually done it. Most others aren't interested in putting in the effort required, but the jobs are there at the right time.

**Tippster** · 10-06-2014, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by Hugh Conway

yeah man, it's all me and only me that thinks most of the people inside the beltway are stuckup social climbing assholes. It's not much different in any of the big megapolises; social conditioning that "blue collar" = stupid. Good contractors aren't stupid, neither are good machinists or any other number of highly skilled "blue collar" workers.

I would think that the ladies would be more interested in a guy with income than a snotty white collar wannabe whining about how he can't find a job.

**creaky fossil** · 10-06-2014, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by Hugh Conway

yeah man, it's all me and only me that thinks most of the people inside the beltway are stuckup social climbing assholes.

I miss going to parties and having Hill Rats use happy-drinky-time to find "connections" of a non-carnal sort. "Where do you work? (answer = not Senate Finance Committee) Excuse me, my 7/8ths full beer needs refilling."