I need a new mattress

[riser4]

So ... not really a mattress problem then?

It was both.

[Core Shot]

Still a fan of old school flippable spring mattresses. Hard to find these days.

Temperpedic is good for a while. But no bouncy bouncy, wink wink nudge nudge.

And these bed in a box are just too short lived. After ten years they have a Homer Simpson ass groove. Old school flipables last twenty years. Or more.

[bodywhomper]

Replacing a non-latex foam mattress after 19 years of use. We’re planning to get a latex mattress. We’re side sleepers who seem to prefer firmer mattresses. Also, don’t seem to mind thin mattresses - we both get comfortable pretty quickly sleeping on 3” paco pads. I’m not aware of any company within an hour drive selling latex mattresses.

Looking online, are foamsweetfoam and sleepez the same company or are there a bunch of mattress shops next to each other in Tempe, AZ?

Was considering 7” Dunlap foam from sleepez. Sleepez keeps recommending the top layer as “soft” with bottom layer as “firm.”

Anybody have light to shed on soft vs medium firmness? For that top layer?

[jm2e]

Replacing a non-latex foam mattress after 19 years of use. We’re planning to get a latex mattress. We’re side sleepers who seem to prefer firmer mattresses. Also, don’t seem to mind thin mattresses - we both get comfortable pretty quickly sleeping on 3” paco pads. I’m not aware of any company within an hour drive selling latex mattresses.

Looking online, are foamsweetfoam and sleepez the same company or are there a bunch of mattress shops next to each other in Tempe, AZ?

Was considering 7” Dunlap foam from sleepez. Sleepez keeps recommending the top layer as “soft” with bottom layer as “firm.”

Anybody have light to shed on soft vs medium firmness? For that top layer?

Curious; is there a reason you’re looking for something different from what you’ve been using?


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[bodywhomper]

We wanted a latex mattress at that time because of supposed longevity and showroom comfort, but we couldn’t afford it. Our mattress was a “10 year” mattress.

[liv2ski]

Bodywhomper, I too am a side sleeper and we've had a Saavta mattress for 3 years now and it is fantastic. I think it cost about two grand as it was one of their best mattresses in queen size. Highly recommend.

[bodywhomper]

Thanks! Seen the name, but haven’t researched about them yet.

[Meadow Skipper]

Thanks! Seen the name, but haven’t researched about them yet.

Slide sleeper here, really like my Saatva, but in part because I got a great deal, I think thru AARP.

[liv2ski]

Yeah I looked at their website and the hybrid latex one that we got is two grand now

[MyNameIsAugustWest]

Need a quick mag recco.

Veterans Day specials on mattresses.
Bear - 40% off (looking at their top end hybrid)
Plank - 30% off (also looking at their top end hybrid)

Plank is cheaper OTD. Same 120-night trial period and 10 year warranty.

Mrs MNIAW and I prefer firmer to very firm mattresses.

Plank is flippable and they say 8/10 firm on the soft side, 10/10 firm on the firmest side

Bear says their firm is 7/10 firm.

Going to check out Saatva but I'm not seeing any obvious Vet Day specials...

WWMD?

ETA: because I put a Plank in my cart but didn't buy, the discount is now 35%....

[Falcon3]

Replacing a non-latex foam mattress after 19 years of use. We’re planning to get a latex mattress. We’re side sleepers who seem to prefer firmer mattresses. Also, don’t seem to mind thin mattresses - we both get comfortable pretty quickly sleeping on 3” paco pads. I’m not aware of any company within an hour drive selling latex mattresses.

Looking online, are foamsweetfoam and sleepez the same company or are there a bunch of mattress shops next to each other in Tempe, AZ?

Was considering 7” Dunlap foam from sleepez. Sleepez keeps recommending the top layer as “soft” with bottom layer as “firm.”

Anybody have light to shed on soft vs medium firmness? For that top layer?

I'd highly recommend building a mattress yourself out of the parts.

You'll need:

Zip-up cover
Base foam or springs
Support layer
Top layer

I built my own premium latex that would have cost over $2000 from even discount places for under $800 doing this. Plus since the mattress cover can zip off, when the top layer of latex (1-2") wears down and gets a groove, you can just replace that and keep all the other parts.

Here's where I got several of my parts:
https://www.mattresses.net/diylamaco.html
https://latexmattressfactory.com/

[MyNameIsAugustWest]

I'd highly recommend building a mattress yourself out of the parts.

You'll need:

Zip-up cover
Base foam or springs
Support layer
Top layer

I built my own premium latex that would have cost over $2000 from even discount places for under $800 doing this. Plus since the mattress cover can zip off, when the top layer of latex (1-2") wears down and gets a groove, you can just replace that and keep all the other parts.

Here's where I got several of my parts:
https://www.mattresses.net/diylamaco.html
https://latexmattressfactory.com/

Been scouring Reddit most of the day and found several mattresses that seem to meet our needs and have high ratings/recommendations. All have some sort of Veterans Day or Black Friday coupon codes. Looked at Bear, Plank (Brooklyn Bedding), Brooklyn Bedding, and Birch. Want a hybrid with some sort of cooling technology (mostly fibers woven into the cover and or topper layer), firm to extra firm, low motion transfer. All have a 100-120 day return option ($99 fee in most cases) and 10 year warranty

DIY is more expensive for similarly configured mattresses because there's no coupons, shipping isn't free, only 5-year warranty and pro-rated after 1 year, and no returns if we don't like it.

Going to go with the Brooklyn Bedding Aurora Luxe Cooling. It's the most expensive of my field of 4 but not outrageously more than the other options.

[bodywhomper]

I appreciate the rec for DYI and info about the holiday discount sales. I do not understand the benefit, as a user, for a flippable mattress that’s different hardnesses on different sides.


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[riser4]

I appreciate the rec for DYI and info about the holiday discount sales. I do not understand the benefit, as a user, for a flippable mattress that’s different hardnesses on different sides.


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Why would you want to flip a mattress that had different hardnesses? You don't flip the modern stacked foam ones. The advantage to me for the DIY route is being able to replace the top layer(s).

Since I got a sleep number, I went with a mid-tier model, and then added my own foam topper, which I will replace eventually. I could have spent more for a SN mattress with the topper built in. But I like replaceable better. And yes, I need to use a topper on a sleep number. My number is 85. But I need padding for my joints.

[bodywhomper]

Thanks. Are all the modern latex foam mattresses stacked foam? I have noticed that in some of the descriptions that I have seen, but it wasn’t clear to me that this was the norm/typical.


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[jerlane]

Anyone have experience with Dreamcloud? I was doing a random search and Tom’s guide recommended them quite highly. Prices look good.


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[MyNameIsAugustWest]

Thanks. Are all the modern latex foam mattresses stacked foam? I have noticed that in some of the descriptions that I have seen, but it wasn’t clear to me that this was the norm/typical.


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All the ones I looked at were. Firm core, medium-firm mid-layer, and soft top layer seemed to be the most common build.

[Falcon3]

Thanks. Are all the modern latex foam mattresses stacked foam? I have noticed that in some of the descriptions that I have seen, but it wasn’t clear to me that this was the norm/typical.

Most are, yes. There are some that have a pocket coil system as the base layer, and I think this is vastly superior. The only qualm about latex is that it doesn't breathe very well, but I think having an airy pocket coil system and then a few inches of perforated latex, plus a cotton or wool quilted cover is way cooler than just a standard latex stack.

[MyNameIsAugustWest]

Most are, yes. There are some that have a pocket coil system as the base layer, and I think this is vastly superior. The only qualm about latex is that it doesn't breathe very well, but I think having an airy pocket coil system and then a few inches of perforated latex, plus a cotton or wool quilted cover is way cooler than just a standard latex stack.

Yep. They're labeled hybrid latex mattresses. That's what I compared DIY to...you can get DIY pocketed coil bases to use as your base layer.

I didn't see a lot of options for DIY perforated latex foam layers. Most of the mattresses that touted "cooling" had a combo of perforated foam layers and wool or wool/cotton covers.

[jm2e]

Riddle me this.
We've been sleeping on the same basic-no-pillow-top-coil-spring reasonably firm mattress for the last 25+ years.
Thinking about a new mattress, mostly so that we can move the old one into a guest bedroom. Since that seemingly makes more sense than getting a new one for guests.
My most consistent complaint with any hotel, AirBNB, friend's mattress has been that they're too soft. Second complaint is that foam feels like shit from the first second and keeps feeling like shit through the night.
So my real question is, what's the difference between a $500 innerspring and a $2500+ innerspring?

[bodywhomper]

I don’t have experience with an innerspring mattress other than hotels. But I noticed a significant price difference with “white glove” delivery vs w/o that delivery method.

We ended up getting a simple two layer latex mattress from turmerry - medium and firm - with wool/cotton zipper covers It arrived as a DYI kit. Simple to assemble. We’re trying out medium side up. We’ve both been sleeping well. I got lucky with timing the drop off of the old foam mattress at the dump for recycling, as in the line was short. Usually a dump run can take hours because my dump sucks.

[MyNameIsAugustWest]

After about a month, I'm really liking the latex hybrid mattress we got from Brooklyn Bedding (which is not in Brooklyn).

At first, it felt like it was going to be too soft but that's just the top layer. Perfect firmness for me and Mrs. MNIAW likes it as well.

[liv2ski]

Sounds like our Saavta mattress. Most comfortable bed I've ever slept on

[jm2e]

Went to a couple mattress chains. Realized foam is definitely out for us. Realized all pillow/Euro tops are out for us. Realized only the firmest inner springs are firm enough. Realized there’s a blurred line between innerspring with a nice quilt and some hybrids.
I’ve pretty much narrowed it down to
1) Beautyrest Black Series One Extra Firm. $2000.
2) Saatva Classic Firm. $2100.
3) Winkbeds Plus (Firmer than firm). $1700.

Dragging feet for sales. Hoping to spend closer to $1500

[liv2ski]

I have slept on a bunch of mattresses while traveling the last 3 weeks. Our Saavta with inner springs and a 3" latex top is the most comfortable by far. Sleeping on my side, the hard mattresses hurt my shoulders