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    Anyone Work With Large (>50") Touch-Screen Displays?

    We've got a project coming up at work that will require large touchscreen displays as part of an information booth/kiosk sort of thing. We're still waiting for the client's specs in terms of maximum allowable size, but in preliminary discussions, they've suggested a range of sizes that are all at least 50".

    We may look to go with an all-in-one touchscreen with a PC in the same device, if we can do so cost-effectively and without giving up any quality or performance.

    Anyone here have experience working with this size of touchscreen display? Any recommendations on brands/technologies? Anything I need to be avoid or watch out for?

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    I have done some work on 42" touch screens. They were Panasonic for a luxury auto dealer. The issues you can run into- mounting the screen that big so it can be reached by everyone (50" probably would have to be flat mount against a wall or some sort of stand that would be attached and anchored. Also remember that they will have to probably be out of direct sunlight or you will get sections of the screen that will not react right and have intermittent issues (at least the Panasonics I worked with fail calibration tests in the setting I was involved with due to the direct sunlight.)

    Not sure I follow your mentioning of an all in one touchscreen in the same device, most all in ones are desktop with 30 inch or so maximum screen size... The typical use of 50" and larger is digital signage (many of which do not require touch screens as they are not requiring user interaction)...

    Elo is another monitor company that specializes in Touch Screen models and may have larger displays (a 55" model).

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    I wondered if you might chime in!

    I've seen some all-in-ones like this: http://www.infocus.com/bigtouch?gcli...FYc7Ogod7XUAew

    The client's a major corporation, and this is going in the lobby at their HQ (among other places - it'll be web-accessible, too). It's going to display a variety of interactive content, including videos, so the "slickness" factor is pretty important.

    Good point about sunlight and positioning - we'll want to know what we're dealing with.

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    Infocus is well known in the projector market and has been around. However with an All in One you had better make sure the computer specs (edit the Infocus has an iCore 5 CPU and integrated graphics on the model you linked) will be good enough to support your application. No easy switching to say even an Apple Mini Mac or higher powered WinPC CPU (Intel iCore etc vs many of the entry level systems that use the Atom CPU's and very basic graphics processors). There are tons of SFF (Small form factor) computers that could easily attach and mount behind a big screen monitor out there- Mini ITX types, to name brand proprietary boxes (from Lenovo, HP, Dell, Apple, etc.)

    I'd test an all in one very carefully before committing- software is an unknown as to what you are going to be writing and developing this solution in. Can't usually upgrade them very easily other than size of memory and maybe the hard drive type and capacity. Heat dissipation and environment factors could also enter into the decisions. All in one that is able to be set on a counter compared to a true self standing Kiosk that is typically enclosed and secured better for say a public lobby that is open all the time.

    I was only the break fix/ installer and repair person on the one I worked on. They started with one brand PC and then switched over to Apple MiniMac (still running a copy of Windows though not Apple OS) and I was finding calibration issues finally determining it was sitting in the front lobby with direct sunlight being one of the reasons it was not working the way it should.
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    Definitely look at ELO touchscreens -> they have sizes up to 55"
    It's just a touchscreen. If you need a kiosk to house it along with a PC, than that's another matter altogether.

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    We have two 42" HP touch screens and a 60" custom one at work. All were purchased 3+ years ago.

    The 60" is a samsung tv with special touch frame/glass over the top. I dont know the manufacturer of the interface, but I can find out...

    I dont know your application, but there is such thing as "too large". The 42s are perfect. The 60 is way too big. I would bet 50" is too big. We are in the construction/engineering industry. Staring at plans 18" away from the 60" sucks.

    I actually wouldnt go touch again for our application.


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    Elo makes the "all in one" like you suggest. We have integrated them in the past in the mobile command units that we build for law enforcement, military, etc. The Elos are pricey, but they seem to work reasonably well.

    The ones that we have used have a slide in windows computer. We ran into some strange issues where the TV did not want to recognize any other sources (it can be used without the computer module installed), and I'm not sure we ever fully resolved that issue. If you're using it with the computer, though, you should be golden. We had one around the office that was around 42", and it was a nice size if mounted at the correct height. The difficulty is finding a height where it can seen and still reached.

    We also have used Smart Technologies overlays that work fairly well. Not quite as nice as the Elo, but well enough. They have a slightly different use case, in my opinion.

    Feel free to send me a pm if you have any additional questions about them.


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    We've got this 70 Sharp in our conference room. Reserving room to watch NCAA's next week.

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    Thanks for everyone's advice here. We managed to get the customer to agree to a <50" screen, which should be good in a lot of ways.

    Seth, we're looking at the ELO products, so I may ping you if I have any specific questions about their stuff.

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    We are working with an over screen technology called Displax. It allows you to turn any screen into a touch screen.
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    FYI:
    We have recently bought into a way-finding system from "Mapped-In" and have 2 kiosks showing up this week. These use the ELO 42" touch-screen which has a self contained bezel. So there is no required "fit & finish" to be done around the screen itself -> just mount to a base of your choice / styling. The Mapped-In folk have a steel fab shop that makes a nice modern looking base for them. The touch action on the ELO screen is very good

    FYI: Mapped-In -> These University of Waterloo dudes were on Dragon's Den a few years ago and the Dragons ALL were fighting to throw money at these "kids". They are in my current hometown of Waterloo, so happy to see young energetic local guys doing well.

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    According to your requirement,I recommend you an easy set-up touch product::http://tabler.tv/s/65-inch-touch-screen-tv.It can easily turns your display into a large multi touch screen.And it's not expensive at all.Also ,you said you need "all-in-one touchscreen with a PC in the same device",I think you may need this mini Android computer:https://tabler.tv/store/istick-mini-computer.It works perfectly with touch frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quara View Post
    According to your requirement,I recommend you an easy set-up touch product::http://tabler.tv/s/65-inch-touch-screen-tv.It can easily turns your display into a large multi touch screen.And it's not expensive at all.Also ,you said you need "all-in-one touchscreen with a PC in the same device",I think you may need this mini Android computer:https://tabler.tv/store/istick-mini-computer.It works perfectly with touch frame.
    Agree with what Quara has recommend, just have visited TABLERTV'S storehttp://tabler.tv/s/70-inch-touch-screen-tv, and found they provide multitouch solution from 40"-84", their 55", 70", 80" and 84" touch frame may perfectly satisfy your needs. And the Android mini PC might be an great add-on product.

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