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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by newbreak View Post
    phones
    I agree this is actually a significant part of the equation.

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    I'm loving all the snow but every pow day recently starts or ends like this

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  3. #103
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    Rideski eek not good. I think coulf maybe be worse now

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    totally rallied the RWD on ice today BRAAAAP

    drop the clutch slowly and hit the gas hard, got rid of plenty of tailgaters today BRAAAP

    blew some guys doors off today felt so bad I stopped to give him some woodscrews to fix em back BRAAAP

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickwm21 View Post
    I know you conservative Coloradians will hate this big government socialist program we use in California called "Chain Control" but it will help get the fucktards off the roads.
    I think that I-80 in California is the model that we should adopt, in an identical fashion. Chain control stations. BIG fines if you wreck without that stuff. BIG fines if semi's are caught without chains, and BIG fines if semi's are caught passing OUT of the right lane. The 3 years that I lived in Reno convinced me that is the way.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rideski View Post
    So anyway, fwd fan or not. If the message board said chains or snow tires ALL vehicles, you can choose to carry them or not. Mess up, get a fine. Don't mess up, oh well. Seems like it would have some positive effect and is free to implement. What other free ideas are on the table?
    Again, a version of the CA laws. I carried chains for my Chevy Tahoe with All Season M/S tires, but never put them on, never needed to. The Highway Patrol is allowed to ask to see your chains, or to require that ALL vehicles (including 4wd) use them depending on conditions. Also, if you DIDN'T have 4wd/AWD with M/S tires (at least), or chains for your 2WD vehicle or commercial vehicle, you waited until the requirements were lifted. Period. So you end up waiting in line at the check point, but certainly that is better than the current I-70 clusterfuck. This afternoon from Evergreen to C470 was a joke at 2:30. People are the worst drivers ever, and getting worse at bad weather every day.
    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    Looking at cotrip.org, it has this for 285: "Chains, snow tires or 4wd all vehicles and chains all commercial vehicles". I've never seen that before.
    It's about time. Now they need the giant fines for violators.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rideski View Post
    Mike Genessee on 70 was glaze ice at 2pm, I passed at least 5 multi car pileups. Good luck.
    Yeah, slick, but decent tires, AWD/4WD and driving skills made it. If you passed 5 at 2, by 2:30 that number was up to 10, including new ones on Hwy 40 where I was. What a joke.
    Quote Originally Posted by RockBoy View Post
    The wife's not gonna be happy when she sees a few dollars missing from the savings and a note on the door that reads, "Gone to AK for the week. Remember to walk the dog."
    Quote Originally Posted by kannonbal View Post
    Damn it. You never get a powder day you didn't ski back. The one time you blow off a day, or a season, it will be the one time it is the miracle of all history. The indescribable flow, the irreplaceable nowness, the transcendental dance; blink and you miss it.
    Some people blink their whole lives.

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    Fkna Hoosier pass in the dark

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rideski View Post
    Certainly MPG is a valid reason.
    So then if money were no object you would drive an awd or 4wd?
    So we're traffic jamming to saving a few dinosaurs and letting people save a bit on gas?

    And a Jetta against a 4wd truck is not a fair mpg comparison.
    I have a friend with a compact Nissan where you can flip a switch for fwd or awd.
    I have not looked, but there have to be a lot of those options out there.

    So anyway, fwd fan or not. If the message board said chains or snow tires ALL vehicles, you can choose to carry them or not. Mess up, get a fine. Don't mess up, oh well.

    Seems like it would have some positive effect and is free to implement.

    What other free ideas are on the table?
    Two of my vehicles are 4wd, the other is AWD. Until I can justify a new mustang or get the time and money to build my dream hot rods it'll stay that way. So I guess if money wasn't an option I'd drive a 2wd. Just not in the snow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Below Zero View Post
    I coined this term back in the early 2000s. And it wasn't any Subaru; it was specifically a WRX with snow tires. The "special" includes manual transmission, symmetrical AWD and the limited slip differential.
    5mt - check
    Turbo producing more power than a 2000 WRX - check
    Limited slip - check
    Symmetrical AWD - check
    More ground clearance than a 2000 WRX - check

    Comparing a car less capable than stated above to a snowmobile. You're a fucking idiot. Quit telling people that shit.

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    took me 3.5 hours from Loveland back to the D. Two 1 hour long stoppages b/c of multi-vehicle accidents. What a clusterfuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SterlingSpikeDancer View Post
    Chain control stations.
    Chain control stations would require infrastructure, planning, manpower, and vehicle stoppages. I've never experienced it in CA so I don't know and won't argue for or against.
    Some people are saying it's different because of Interstate / instate /etc.

    So how about just implementing that minus the check stations. TV/News stations would run the message for free. cdot puts it on the message board, free. Could it have any negative effect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rideski View Post
    Chain control stations would require infrastructure, planning, manpower, and vehicle stoppages. I've never experienced it in CA so I don't know and won't argue for or against.
    Some people are saying it's different because of Interstate / instate /etc.

    So how about just implementing that minus the check stations. TV/News stations would run the message for free. cdot puts it on the message board, free. Could it have any negative effect?
    In Truckee/Donner area, it was basically the same as the current chain-up areas here, just manned by one or two patrolmen. The backup for the single lane was the backup, but people who wouldn't make it through were out of the way early in the lineup, then the rest of us got to pass, most of the time without actually having to stop and check. Then the "chain monkeys" had a business that would sell and apply the chains for the people who were too lazy or didn't have any. It really seemed to work much better than the current I-70 situation. I grew up around here and knew no different until my 3 year stint in Reno, but as soon as I saw it I thought it would work GREAT in CO.
    Quote Originally Posted by RockBoy View Post
    The wife's not gonna be happy when she sees a few dollars missing from the savings and a note on the door that reads, "Gone to AK for the week. Remember to walk the dog."
    Quote Originally Posted by kannonbal View Post
    Damn it. You never get a powder day you didn't ski back. The one time you blow off a day, or a season, it will be the one time it is the miracle of all history. The indescribable flow, the irreplaceable nowness, the transcendental dance; blink and you miss it.
    Some people blink their whole lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GPP33 View Post
    5mt - check
    Turbo producing more power than a 2000 WRX - check
    Limited slip - check
    Symmetrical AWD - check
    More ground clearance than a 2000 WRX - check

    Comparing a car less capable than stated above to a snowmobile. You're a fucking idiot. Quit telling people that shit.
    Ok? Not really sure why you go so offended. Calling someone a "fucking idiot" is pretty harsh, and we've never even met. I'm sorry I offended you. I called it an "I70 snowmobile" as an expression.
    "Can't vouch for him, though he seems normal via email."

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    Did montanaskier start this thread because he used to ski in Montana (where there is never traffic or people) on a powder day and now he has to deal with I70 (which is always a traffic jam.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoooR View Post
    Did montanaskier start this thread because he used to ski in Montana (where there is never traffic or people) on a powder day and now he has to deal with I70 (which is always a traffic jam.)
    I live in Vail, I don't deal with 70 skier traffic.
    ROLL TIDE ROLL

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    Quote Originally Posted by montanaskier View Post
    I live in Vail, I don't deal with 70 skier traffic on the roads.
    Fixed it for you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Below Zero View Post
    Ok? Not really sure why you go so offended. Calling someone a "fucking idiot" is pretty harsh, and we've never even met. I'm sorry I offended you. I called it an "I70 snowmobile" as an expression.

    Don't take everything I say so literally. I don't think you're a fucking idiot. Hugs.

    I'm just bitter that I was always told they were unstoppable then 6 months after getting one I burried it in the first real snow storm we got that year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by montanaskier View Post
    I live in Vail, I don't deal with 70 skier traffic.
    But you do deal with plenty of I-70 traffic given your work commuting... More than most people have to deal with skier traffic, I bet.

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    ^^^ I probably drive 70 more than anyone else here but it's during the week. In the year plus of back and forths I've had maybe 4 or 5 really bad drives. I've had about 3 times I've gone around due to VP closures. The worst was last summer on Fridays with W bound traffic being stacked for miles. I'm lucky that I'm typically not in Denver on Monday or Friday.
    ROLL TIDE ROLL

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    CDOT is testing buses on the shoulders for the next three weekends:

    http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_25...ffic-shoulders

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    Buses? I can't remember the last time I saw a bus on I-70. I'm assuming they're using buses to simulate something larger in the "lane", and not because they're actually going to run a bus service up there?

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    It's only a study, but a good start. 1 bus could take 40 cars off I70.

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    Problem=SOLVED BITCHES!!!





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    Awersome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shredgnar View Post
    Problem=SOLVED BITCHES!!!




    Haha. That's great

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    Well would you look at that. I70 east of Silverthorne is closed at Noon. Have fun!

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