Increasing DIN on dynafit bindings?

[Wintersmith]

After deciding for new lighter skies, i thought i should keep my mind open on the bindings.
One of my local shops have a wide selection and i must say both plum and atk looks sweet.
On closer inspection of the ATK raider 12 i comment that the the heal lifter seem hard to use with a pole from all positions.

The salesman that knows i allready use Radical FTs and suggests the Speed Radical or Radical ST.
My problem is that i run my FTs on DIN 9/10 or 10/11 (heavy pack, camera, lenses etc..), so a binding with DIN 12 would be preferable‎.
After explaining this he says its not a problem, they can just swap the spring, and i will in all practice have a ST or Speed Radical with DIN 10++ to 12ish.

I`am abit semi sceptic to the concept, but then again, a spring is a spring? and the dynafit plastic have some extra tolerance?. It might be that i cant find much about this on Google because i dont know the correct terms for springs or parts involved in this.

Anyway.. Perfectly Ok? or No(r)way?

-Smithy

[creaky fossil]

lighter skies?

so you're going to ski these on astroturf hills where it doesn't snow?

[detrusor]

I think the skies are lightest right around noon, a little darker in the morning and evening. Not light at all at night.....unless there is a full moon. Good luck

[Meathelmet]

Your weight? Your skiing style? Your ski?

Nobody can give any advice if you dont give the basic info..

[Rob Stokes]

If you change the springs over, or add a little washer behind the spring to pre-load it you will increase the release value. (its not DIN though)

[LightRanger]

I'm pretty sure the dude is not a native English speaker, so let's give him a break, eh?

Wintersmith, I seem to recall reading something on Wildsnow.com or maybe here about changing the springs to up the release range. Can't remember, but it sounds right. I'm sure somebody will chime in who knows.

Edit: Rob beat me to it.

[Wintersmith]

English is my third Language sorry
I was asking this as a technical question about the spring swap itself, not a gear recomendation.

Thank you Rob/Ranger. Will try to read more on Wildsnow.


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[gregL]

It's not that simple. Changing the spring or putting a washer in back of it (as Dynafit has been known to do) only changes the lateral release force, and most people I know have no problem with that even at 10. Upward or vertical release is the problem that most people experience with first-gen tech bindings, and there aren't upgrades for the pins. If you think a vertical release value (it's not DIN at this time) of 10 isn't enough, and are determined to stay as light as possible, get the Radical FT and don't install the carbon connector (you can cut off some of the plastic base plates at both ends as well) or go with the Plum Guide. I've had no experience with the ATK Raider 12.

Next step up is a bunch of newer bindings like the G3 Ion, Fritschi Vipec, and Dynafit Beast 14, but none has much of a track record yet.

[DropCliffsNotBombs]

I notice that many Dynafit binding skiers ski them at lighter settings since when you are touring far from a chance at a timely rescue, you tend to not be hucking as huge as you would be inbounds.
I ski mine at lower "DIN" settings than my alpines for sure.

[gregL]

I ski them lighter than my alpine bindings, but still higher than 10, and I'm not that big.

[xtrmjoe]

I have found +1 din horizontal +2din vertical compared to 9 din solly matches up well. Solly 914's and ft12's with sollyfits. 6'2", 170, dps and praxis boards, Tahoe snow.

[wildmanwillie]

I ski my guides at 11 z release value and 10 y release value and have had no pre releases in soft snow skiing very fast and aggressively (140 lbs). The only time I had trouble was when I skied them on icy groomers just to get an idea of their limitations.

[wildmanwillie]

I notice that many Dynafit binding skiers ski them at lighter settings since when you are touring far from a chance at a timely rescue, you tend to not be hucking as huge as you would be inbounds.
I ski mine at lower "DIN" settings than my alpines for sure.

Hmm not my logic. I ski them at a higher setting than my alpines because I'm more worried about pre releasing.

[Wintersmith]

It's not that simple. Changing the spring or putting a washer in back of it (as Dynafit has been known to do) only changes the lateral release force, and most people I know have no problem with that even at 10. Upward or vertical release is the problem that most people experience with first-gen tech bindings, and there aren't upgrades for the pins.

Thats what i wanted to know
Thank you Greg

[userA]

I ski them lighter than my alpine bindings, but still higher than 10, and I'm not that big.

'not that big', an approved tech measurement?
b

[gregL]

'not that big', an approved tech measurement?
b

Not that precise, either - shorter and fatter than you, and still bigger than Q.