Old Veteran detained in NK

[PNWbrit]

the Koreans I've known don't give a fuck about it, and they all have relatives in the north. maybe it's denial, or maybe their latest generation is even more insolent than our own?

Maybe they didn't have any choice but to move on. Consider it lacking the luxury to do otherwise, un-American as that may seem.

[userA]

maybe the south quit fighting the north so they could concentrate on the thugs jacking their markets.
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[masterofgreenbeans]

Does this mean nobody wants to go ski Masik with me?

[that dude who did that thing]

Is it is funny ( or sad) that you think your own self described generic american dream story is somehow less unique than short fuse Mott's?

Damn, dude.

That's some awesome reading comprehension, dude. Stoners are not usually such misdirected literalists.

[DasBlunt]

That's some awesome reading comprehension, dude. Stoners are not usually such misdirected literalists.

Your contradictions are inane. You also imagine that you are misunderstood by others, often. You conclude your fantasyland story, and say "war sucks", the biggest bullshit rationalization/generalization of all. You repeatedly claim "sarcasm" or tongue (cock) in cheek, but yet specifically accuse others of generalizations.

The real story is how people like you arrive at accepting ongoing injustices like this. Conclusions about war with gross generalizations keeps your perspective narrow, i guess that is the point.

From what I have seen, South Korea and specifically Seoul is an icon of hellish consumerism, only following the despair of Tokyo and all of China. To dismiss the horrors of war and the effects it has on your/our future, shows much more than a lack of empathy. Pacifists, I hope, have started to become diplomats or the future of mankind looks grim.

I was posting with tongue in cheek. But there is a certain reality to what I posted. If you visit a totalitarian dictatorship, don't be surprised when you are subjected to conduct that would shock anyone except the subjects of a totalitarian dictator. Did the guy think he, unlike the citizens, was entitled to the rule of law? Did he think that 60 years of state propaganda blaming the United States and its people for everything and singling out its soldieres as war criminals was just a "bluff?" The US State Department warns people against travelling to N. Korea, and maintains neither consulates nor embassies. If, despite all this, you choose to go there, you are either a moron or you know that you are pretty much on your own.

If you choose to go camping on the Serengeti, and a lion rips open your tent and mauls you, you either knew of that risk and consciously chose to take it, or you were a moron. Either way, expect my sympathy to be limited.

[that dude who did that thing]

New vape, DasCunt? That's about the only way I can explain that rant, because it definitely doesn't make any sense whatsoever on its own or in the context of this thread.

[flyandski365]

Your contradictions are inane. You also imagine that you are misunderstood by others, often. You conclude your fantasyland story, and say "war sucks", the biggest bullshit rationalization/generalization of all. You repeatedly claim "sarcasm" or tongue (cock) in cheek, but yet specifically accuse others of generalizations.

The real story is how people like you arrive at accepting ongoing injustices like this. Conclusions about war with gross generalizations keeps your perspective narrow, i guess that is the point.

From what I have seen, South Korea and specifically Seoul is an icon of hellish consumerism, only following the despair of Tokyo and all of China. To dismiss the horrors of war and the effects it has on your/our future, shows much more than a lack of empathy. Pacifists, I hope, have started to become diplomats or the future of mankind looks grim.

[DasBlunt]

New vape, DasCunt? That's about the only way I can explain that rant, because it definitely doesn't make any sense whatsoever on its own or in the context of this thread.

Your narrow perspective proves itself.

[Alaskan Rover]

Has anyone over there even said shit about why he is being detained? If he had broken any substantial laws while there, then they have a right to detain him. But they at least have to contact the Swedish Embassy so that info on the detainment and charges can be relayed to the Dept of State.

We were there (through my company) three times during the late nineties and very early 2000s in the very northern section of NK usually closed to western visitors...and yes...we had some close calls with our government-appointed minders. The minders themselves were never armed, but they could and did call in the always nearby Ak-47 toting soldiers whenever they suspected us of doing anything untoward (which over there meant something as simple as looking too long at a government building or train on our daily walk to the restuarant. Taking any sort of picture ANYWHERE in the villages was a BIG no-no...but I managed to get a few anyway with one of those orange disposable cameras that I'd taped over with electrical tape so it wasnt such an obvious camera. This, by the way, turned into a very scary and memorable shitshow with the green coated NK Army higher ups...but was diffused thankfully when the highest higher-up put my taped up camera on the ground and snashed it with his boot. I don't think I realized right then what incredible danger I was just in...luckily the Russians had diffused it nicely!!!)

We still managed to have incredible adventures in a part of remote NK that Madeline Albright NEVER would have been allowed to see. But I was amazed that the letters that I had mailed from North Korea EVER made it out of that country...but they did. I'm sure they were read before they left the NK postal system (and maybe even once they got over to the U.S. by whothehellknows spooks).

I'm writing a small book about my experiences traveling there and the very weird times we had over there. All in all, it was probably the weirdest, most adventurous three trips of my life...in one of the oddest countries I've ever been in.

I wouldn't trade those trips for anything!!!

[iceman]

I'm writing a small book

I seriously doubt this.

[userA]

Has anyone over there even said shit about why he is being detained? If he had broken any substantial laws

I'm writing a small book about my experiences travelin. All in all, it was probably the weirdest, in one of the oddest countries I've ever been in. !!!

going there and spewing jibberish about killing their family members probably is a conversation better left at home.

name the book 'war & no peace' and just let it ramble away.
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[Tippster]

I seriously doubt this.

Well, smaller than War & Peace or the Bible, one would hope.

[masterofgreenbeans]

Well I've seen the pictures, on TV, and I'm a gonna use my vacation days and ski that shit.