Has anyone ever set off a slide while striaghtlining?

[leroy jenkins]

Yea, dumb thread but its summer. I say the ol 'no one sets off a slide while striaghtlining' cliche as a joke sometimes but I kind of wonder if its true. Any evidence to the contrary?

[userA]

i am no roj but pretty sure it happens behind my big gun tail riding steeze.
bobby

[icelanticskier]

I would hafta imagine that the phenomenon has in fact occurred. it would definitely seem less impactful than noodling or farming yer way down slope. and it would seem like a more effective way to out run the bitch.

I could be WAY off on this.

lots of mags are into straightling i'd imagine. let's here it straight from the full facer gnarcores.

rog

[totaliboard]

Ah, yes. definitely.

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[the Cock]

I would hafta imagine that the phenomenon has in fact occurred. it would definitely seem less impactful than noodling or farming yer way down slope. and it would seem like a more effective way to out run the bitch.

I could be WAY off on this.

lots of mags are into straightling i'd imagine. let's here it straight from the full facer gnarcores.

rog

Hey New England Rog!!
Do you have to spray your ignorant spew regarding snow science in every single thread posted on tetomgravity.com it's a little disheartening to see the few New Englanders that have ego to stroke take over a forum intended to advance people's avalanche awareness/saviness

So kindly, could you just shut the fuck up? No one cares about your experiences. We've all done the same. Happy for you and all, but shut the fuck up.

[D-Roc]

Wow you really are 'the cock'

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Wow you really are 'the cock'

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NYC?
PM Thin Cover. Vermont is the New Jersey. Hope your collar is white!!

[CookieMonster]

The relevant science: applying a dynamic load to a smaller area of the snowpack is definitely one way to reduce your chance of triggering an avalanche, but even while straight-lining, the application of force is not limited to the area exactly beneath the skis. In addition, once you stress the snowpack beyond its fracture toughness, it does not matter by how much.

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[neufox47]

Aren't you applying more force to the snow, the faster you go, even when traveling in a straight line?

[icelanticskier]

Aren't you applying more force to the snow, the faster you go, even when traveling in a straight line?

uh, huh? more force upon landing when you huck yer meat off that over hanging cornice onto the slab choked slope. straightlining, especially on the barrel staves that are being ridden on today would apply less force on a slope at higher speeds. like a boat at slow speed plows more water at deeper depths than when planing high on the water at high speeds. less impact on the buried weak layer(s). imo

rog

[Hott Butt Mud]

Jesus Christ, you guys are a bunch of old fucks.

[icelanticskier]

Jesus Christ, you guys are a bunch of old fucks.

yer goddam right. we must be doin something right. may you be so lucky

rog

[leroy jenkins]

So anyone have video of it actually happening? I'm skeptical its happened in anything other than hair trigger fucking stay at home in bed type danger days.

[icelanticskier]

So anyone have video of it actually happening?

I seem to remember some extreme comp where the slope let go while a dood launched a cliff right after, landed and out ran it. when it let go i'm pretty sure he was straightlining. wish I could remember the comp.

I'm skeptical its happened in anything other than hair trigger fucking stay at home in bed type danger days.

no such thing as stay at home days. just choose wisely

rog

[lyleaaeio]

By straightlining, you reduce the chance that you will hit a spot near a rock band or the side where the weak layer is closer to the surface ... In avy I they taught us that it can be easier to propagate a fracture from these weird places than the 'middle'... Just one ancedote

[icelanticskier]

"can be". voodoo.

rog

[leroy jenkins]

I seem to remember some extreme comp where the slope let go while a dood launched a cliff right after, landed and out ran it. when it let go i'm pretty sure he was straightlining. wish I could remember the comp.




no such thing as stay at home days. just choose wisely

rog

everyone knows landing an air puts a lot more force on the snowpack than simply making turns, even if they're big high g turns. There are tons of examples of someone kicking off a slab after landing an air.

I'm looking for examples of someone setting off a slide while just pointing it downhill, no turns and no airs.

[Shadam]

a fews ago I watched a skier get a small wind slab to go while "pointing it" out the bottom of a chute on the fan. But it was about 2inched deep and 15ft across so hardly an avy.

does bringing the cornice with you count?

[smitchell333]

I say bullshit. Since avalanches often release from the weight of the snow alone, then even a straightlining skier can trigger a slide. They are perhaps less likely than a skier jumping or taking heavy deep turns or crashing on slope, but still absolutely possible.

Why would you need video evidence?

[icelanticskier]

everyone knows landing an air puts a lot more force on the snowpack than simply making turns, even if they're big high g turns. There are tons of examples of someone kicking off a slab after landing an air.

I'm looking for examples of someone setting off a slide while just pointing it downhill, no turns and no airs.

no, I meant that he triggered the slide while straightlining just before he launched off what looked to be about a 30 footer. launching the cliff allowed him to not get caught up in the slide as the snow broke up going over and to the sides of the cliff while he landed and skied away. was pretty sweet.

rog

[neufox47]

uh, huh? ... straightlining, especially on the barrel staves that are being ridden on today would apply less force on a slope at higher speeds. like a boat at slow speed plows more water at deeper depths than when planing high on the water at high speeds. less impact on the buried weak layer(s). imo

rog

I believe you are confusing penetration with force. Just because you aren't penetrating deep into the snowpack doesn't mean that you aren't applying a lot of force, and you can apply more force at high speeds without achieving as much penetration.

[icelanticskier]

and you can apply more force at high speeds without achieving as much penetration.

more force at high speeds, but less penetration? so less force at low speeds, but more penetration? which do you think is worse/more risky?

higher speeds with less penetration would seem much less risky to me. don't really agree with for higher speeds=more force. unless yer making turns maybe. I mean whenever i or my group has crossed suspects slope, we go as quickly as we can and just try to skim the surface. more force? i think not.

rog

[leroy jenkins]

no, I meant that he triggered the slide while straightlining just before he launched off what looked to be about a 30 footer. launching the cliff allowed him to not get caught up in the slide as the snow broke up going over and to the sides of the cliff while he landed and skied away. was pretty sweet.

rog

So he didn't turn at all in his run before hitting that air? Bullshit. The turns he made before pointing it could have been the culprit. Still waiting for evidence of someoen setting off a slide while doing nothing but pointing it their whole run.