Dig stoke, who else likes to play in the dirt???

[jackstraw]

My ski bud is ( great skier, shitty mtn bike rider ) became a quad this summer from crashing on a bridge no crazier than in the last set of picts so its suprising how little it can take to really change your life

localy the association are building everything to the whistler bike park standards and they have taken stuff down to be compliant so we can get free money

That sucks. We're all just seconds away from a potential catastrophic injury.

I try to step it back on wooden structures. The grip is too unpredictable for me.

[jm2e]

I hate wood.
I hate wood that’s designed to be the challenging part of a trail instead of just a proper bridge.
I hate wood that has nothing on it for grip.


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[Andeh]

I also hate wood features with no grip additions. Slipped off a log skinny yesterday at the one spot where there wasn't natural bark left, because the builder didn't like chicken wire. Factured scapula and partial AC separation, from a stupid feature on flat ground riding at walking speed. FTS

[XXX-er]

That sucks. We're all just seconds away from a potential catastrophic injury.

I try to step it back on wooden structures. The grip is too unpredictable for me.

yeah I duno how he did it but buddy just had an accident plain & simple, so we won't be getting in any more avalanches together

If you have ever watched any of the north shore series of movies starting in the 80's people were making elevated skinnies and so it eminated out from the north shore of Vancover, Its been dummied down in recent years but it seemed to me the builders were making trails with bridges & ramps to go thru/ over old growth shit in the understorey and then they built elevated skinnies on purpose and so everybody watched the movies and elevated shit got built everywhere in yer home town is my take, not a lover of bridges or skinnies either, if its wet or I ain't feeling it i will ride around wood even if its a feature on the ground

how its works now is an MOF guy wants something removed for compliance so the SMBA guy sez yeah sure and we get grant $$$$$ money to run a hoe and build great trails that all the membership can use, but some wankers will complain about tradition

[jackstraw]

I love skinnies and have built a ton of them. They are all relatively low consequence. Never ride them when wet because you're just asking for trouble. Even with bark you don't know because eventually that bark is coming off and you may be the trigger. I have plane cut a few, but most stay round because plane cutting is a bitch. If you're not comfortable riding round, then don't ride it I guess.

One thing about riding skinnies is having an exit plan and being prepared to hop off. I think people get in trouble trying to stay on instead of committing to the exit off. Obviously high consequence skinnies are a different story like the ones you see in the BC videos. Those guys probably have a plan...on how to limit their injuries if they fall...maybe.

[Abies]

I love wood features. Natural wood, “milled” on site fork rot resistant trees like redwood or cedar is usually pretty decent in the wet. It’s the home depot 2x4s that get really sketchy in my experience since they’re sanded smooth.


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[evdog]

I'm not a fan of the plain lumber either but these breakaway bridges get beat up in storms and only last a couple rainy seasons. Not worth using more expensive wood. The narrow width really forces people to slow down to hit them.

[Abies]

Totally, makes sense in that application


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[Abies]

Over the last couple of weeks we’ve been making progress on this machine built flow trail. This is part of an in-progress beginner or progression zone with a climb trail and several short descent options, ringed by a one-mile green loop at the bottom. Crazy rainstorm coming in tonight though so sadly we’re going from too dry to oversaturated almost overnight, and are going to have to pause for a bit.


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[VTskibum]

^^^ That looks fun. Hear you on too dry to over saturated, think that’s about to be us here.

Was 60s yesterday and took advantage between WFH calls for what might be last laps of the season in my yard before it just stays wet. No layout changes this year, but did get it rolling great and nearly blue groove in some berms. Missed most of the fall w broken collarbone, but recovered enough to take advantage lately.



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[jackstraw]

Over the last couple of weeks we’ve been making progress on this machine built flow trail. This is part of an in-progress beginner or progression zone with a climb trail and several short descent options, ringed by a one-mile green loop at the bottom. Crazy rainstorm coming in tonight though so sadly we’re going from too dry to oversaturated almost overnight, and are going to have to pause for a bit.


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Are you in CA? Because we're about to get very wet also. Possibly 3" which will hammer our trails. It will also be helpful once is dries a bit to do much needed maintenance on many trails. Break bumps are brutal right now.

[Abies]

Yes but for us it might be like 10” over 3-5 days.


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[jackstraw]

That'll be an issue. Hoping for snow up high.

[XXX-er]

On our brand new M/C banked trails the dry stuff would just crumble so they tried to keep them closed until they got some moisture

and then of course TOO much moisture is another probelem

[jm2e]

Leaf blowered about 5 miles of trail yesterday. Fucking knackered.

[jackstraw]

Knackered! Such a great word. My friend from England threw that one out a couple weeks ago while riding and I can't remember the last time I had heard it or if ever...certainly had read it.

[LeeLau]

Some more braid deactivation. Nobody had undone the naturalization on the ridearounds so laid in more blowdown. Rock faces are starting to grow back moss.

Scouted out oits to dig and line with punji sticks facing uphill for the strava lines

[LeeLau]

Reloamed 200m of trail. Just another 1.2km more to go

Stubborn 50m of trail had water damage. The cross ditches dug 2 weeks ago seemed to have work as there was no more water flowing down the trail. Began process of reloaming that

[jackstraw]

95% of our trails are illegal. Went up to make a little berm on a lesser traveled trail and a couple walkers were there at the same moment I arrived with my Rogue and my chainsaw loaded in my backpack. I quickly stashed the Rogue behind a redwood. I knew right away this guy was going to say something and he did. He said no bikes are allowed and I didn't reply, just said I do maintenance as I picked up a stick across the trail. I avoided interacting and he kept speaking about signs and his wife kinda pushed him along. I just said, "enjoy the day". Then I went beyond to a blow down and cleared that. (Which most hikers have no clue on how the trails actually stay passable) The whole anti bike thing is an issue. I understand both sides, but there needs to be some compromising. That sanctioned builds are over regulated which makes them boring green circle shit.

Anyway, got this one out of the way.

[Abies]

More work on our beginner system. It’s been awesome learning from a pro builder.

This little rock feature is to differentiate the split between the main green flow trail and a blue alternate line.



Packed in with dirt - it will be rockier looking after another day or two of rain. Green line to the left, blue to the right.



Despite the rain the compactor was still working ok. A couple sections got a little muddy and might need to be reworked.




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[Abies]

Lee that rock roll and trail below it look awesome. I’m so jealous of the combo of rock and organics you have to work with up there. We have some small rocks but not much that’s big enough for features.


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[LeeLau]

Lee that rock roll and trail below it look awesome. I’m so jealous of the combo of rock and organics you have to work with up there. We have some small rocks but not much that’s big enough for features.


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Thanks. Trying to keep them narrow but so many walk on it, walk up or around it. The moss is growing back other rocks now about 4 years after

[Shredhead]

That looks awesome!
You're an artist.

[LeeLau]

Not sure where to post this but you all dig so might appreciate it.

In 2007 a friend of mine, and Shar and myself started a series of meetings and workshops with West Vancouver. That's where the Cypress trails of the North Shore are located.

Shar and Alan stuck with it. I got burned out on meetings after a few years. Shar lasted longer. Alan kept going. Then finally only Alan was left standing.

14 years later, after we expanded the network 2x and maintained the system, they're finally sanctioned. And are now a recurring line item in the Parks budget to the tune of $500k per year for "trails".

[toast2266]

^^^ awesome! $500k / year towards bike trails is huge.

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