Need to replace beloved Scott P4's

[ncskier]

Ok, like the title says I need some collective advice. I have been on a pair of Scott P4's for the past 4 seasons. They have become my go to ski for all but the hardest of hardpack. i ski enough days out west to want a 105 waist minimum, but I have come to appreciate the Scott P4 double titanal construction when I ski in the east. I don't think I care too much for the twin tip constuction, but I do appreciate the burly construction. I'm 6 3 225. Somehow this ski has become my favorite ski, but the tops are delaminating and its time for them to go. Scott doesn't appear to make anything above 100 with metal anymore. Volkl Katana? Recommendations please.

[fat yeti]

If you don't need a twin the Cham 107 is great

[miahw2828]

If you wanted to just replace with another set of P4's I feel like I see new old stock P4's around on ebay, etc. at cheap prices from time to time, keep an eye out for those

Or check with this guy:
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...tt-P4-band-new

[angrysasquatch]

Cochise, Mothership have metal and ~110 waist

[meesta]

Yeah, if you want another pair of p4's, I have a 2010/11 p4 drilled once but never used I'd let go for $175 shipped.

[Smails]

http://blistergearreview.com/gear-re...a-girish-185cm

Nordica Girsh. Absolutely bomber ski. (The Katana is great too, but more expensive these days)

(PM me if you are interested in a cheap pair)

[drbumpsdc]

Do you still have p4's?
drbumps

[drbumpsdc]

Anyone ??? 181"s

drbumps

[givethepigeye]

Want to buy my pair of Cochise(s)? 185's

[toast2266]

Anyone ??? 181"s

drbumps

I have some 191's that are thoroughly used, but I'd part with them for an extremely modest price.

[Steven S. Dallas]

I have some 181s, one mount, with maybe 5 days on them. PM me your email and I'll send pics. Very good shape.

These ones: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&redir_esc=&client=ms-android-verizon&source=android-browser-type&v=133247963&qsubts=1364273426604&action=devlo c&q=scott+p4+2008&v=133247963#biv=i%7C3%3Bd%7C-OcEgElcVJrgoM%3A

[CaliBrit]

In the same boat. Love my p4's. this blister review on the new Scott punisher is pretty interesting. Note my Scott crusades with no metal still have the same super solid feel as the P4 so I get what they are saying. I might be pulling the trigger. Shame the graphics look like shit.

http://blistergearreview.com/gear-re...scott-punisher

[pfluffenmeister]

Movement Goliath 191 is very similiar in shape.

135-108-124; i don't remember offhand the dims of the P4, but they're close.

Goliath doesn't have any metal, but is damp enough to crush mix conditions.

it can typically be picked up fairly cheaply.


... and it has a square tail.

[MikeScott]

Just mounted up my new 13/14 Punishers and hot damn do they rip. It has a little more rocker in the tip for the soft stuff but still holds really well in the mixed and on the hard pack. 110 under foot. Highly recommend.

[Beyond]

Go find a pair of Stockli TT's on closeout; closest in design, feel, and heft. New models are completely different.

[CaliBrit]

Just mounted up my new 13/14 Punishers and hot damn do they rip. It has a little more rocker in the tip for the soft stuff but still holds really well in the mixed and on the hard pack. 110 under foot. Highly recommend.

Great to know. Can you post up pics of the graphics? I may wait for next years.

[ncskier]

Well I always hated when people did not update their inquiries. So long story short, right after this post, I took an April trip to Snowmass with the kids. Conditions were spring mank for sure with temps in the low 60's. The damn P4's broke my heart because they still were ripping. The delam got worse, but it was their final send off. I even hit up Highlands with 3" of spring powder on top of refrozen corral reef and they still chugged along. However, they are now retired and awaiting to be repurposed into a ski chair for parts.
I demoed some skis as well and pulled the trigger on some Black Diamond Zealots. They are dimensionally similar, have minimal rocker, just a tad more running length due to not being twin tips and had damp stable feel due to the wood and titanal construction. turning radius is longer, but as I get older I appreciate a good ripping turn. I bought a new pair last week for a stupid cheap discount, so we shall see how they do this winter. I looked at the Stockli, but the prices, were up there. These P4's were like 200 on tramdock back in the day and as a former shop rat who has demoed and skied numerous skis, they left an impression on me. Picked up the zealots for 325 shipped so not a lot invested in them either. Thanks for all the suggestions.