THE WARMINZ!!!!!!

[Elkhound Odin]

http://www.census.gov/history/pdf/18...on_Density.pdf

The thing I found interesting with this map is the highest population density in Alabama is now considered rural (Selma region) and Birmingham (highest density now) doesn't even show up.

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Stop talking sense to the window lickers. We all know forest fires are due to TEH GLOBAL WARMINZ!!!! not fire suppression or tools like flatlander2 buying/building houses in forests/ population density in these areas.

It's really too much for their minds to comprehend.

Hutash= catholic church boy

[hutash]

Or, as a possible alternative, maybe it's because we didnt have many people out in these wildfire prone areas before then, and the people that were living there were too busy trying to eke out a living to write a journal.

http://www.census.gov/history/pdf/18...on_Density.pdf

True, the old "does a tree falling in the woods make a sound..." conundrum, but...

Aren't these fires bigger now because so much has been done to stop the natural process of wild fires that burned smaller areas ? Not allowing the natural cycle of wild fires has created a much more volatile situation when they do.

That is the point. We have made wildfires worse then they used to be. We have changed the forest structure long before all the houses were built. While a factor in today's fire management, housing was not a big issue when the whole Smokey the Bear paradigm began. We have changed the dynamics of the forest, just as we have changed the dynamics of the climate. Weather was certainly a factor in recent round of fires, but how much, if any of that, can be blamed on climate change is certainly debatable.

I don't know much about CO forest dynamics, but the historic and research data show profound changes due to human intervention here in CA.

[flatlander#2]

Sure thing there G-Town, sure thing. I'd stay in DVE if I were you, much harder for that to go.

Imagine how Clear Creek County will rip if someone's meth lab/grow op goes boom up Guanella Pass. Fricken burn all the way to Lakewood.

[Meadow Skipper]

Actually, there are three primary factors that act in concert to create the current fire problems: suppression policies of the last 100 or so years, human expansion into former wildlands to live and recreate and exploit resources, and the warming trend of the climate. It's like a fire problem triangle - all three factors play a significant part.

[Albert Gore]

See I told you assholes. But nooooo, nobody listens to me. I only invented the God damned Internet, you'd think people would pay attention to what I've been saying all along.

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Sure thing there G-Town, sure thing. I'd stay in DVE if I were you, much harder for that to go.

Imagine how Clear Creek County will rip if someone's meth lab/grow op goes boom up Guanella Pass. Fricken burn all the way to Lakewood.

Dude, you just moved here. You clearly don't know the difference between clear creek and anywhere else. Stick to your parkway/ I-70 gaper commute area. Imagine the Lolz when you start whining about your home proximity when it gets close. Lol

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Actually, there are three primary factors that act in concert to create the current fire problems: suppression policies of the last 100 or so years, human expansion into former wildlands to live and recreate and exploit resources, and the warming trend of the climate. It's like a fire problem triangle - all three factors play a significant part.

Hint- warmest decade of the 20th century was in the 1930's....b4 da anthropogenic WARMINZ became in vogue. But yeah, COOL STORY BRO!

[Meadow Skipper]

Hint- warmest decade of the 20th century was in the 1930's....b4 da anthropogenic WARMINZ became in vogue. But yeah, COOL STORY BRO!

Counter-hint, bro - in the 30s we didn't have as nearly many people encroaching on wildlands (the population was just over a third of what it is now) or 100 years of increasingly effective fire suppression behind us. And wildlands were getting the fuck grazed out of them during the 30s.

But rant the fuck on.

[AKPogue]

Well earlier than that we had more cities burning down to the ground.

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Counter-hint, bro - in the 30s we didn't have as nearly many people encroaching on wildlands (the population was just over a third of what it is now) or 100 years of increasingly effective fire suppression behind us. And wildlands were getting the fuck grazed out of them during the 30s.

But rant the fuck on.

So where are the crazy wildfires of the thirties due to DEM WARMINZ!!!

[flatlander#2]

Dude, you just moved here. You clearly don't know the difference between clear creek and anywhere else. Stick to your parkway/ I-70 gaper commute area. Imagine the Lolz when you start whining about your home proximity when it gets close. Lol

Just moved here? Where is here that I just moved too and/or from? How is it I don't know the diff between Clear Creek? I first moved to Idaho Springs in 1994, you were still hanging out at the laundromat of your Mom's trailer park trying to swipe dirty lady pants.

Hey it gets close to my place I'm clearing out in my hudge dudge I got my braaap all loaded with all my spancers skis, flat bill hats, chain wallets, my high end video equip for my studio/production company and-of course-my shitty colored oversized jackets and baggy pants. Open some propane tanks in the garage and roll.

Seriously though, I don't give a shit if it burns my house to the ground. It's just a house, albeit not on wheels. Or under high voltage power lines. I think people risking their lives to save houses is the redic.

[Meadow Skipper]

So where are the crazy wildfires of the thirties due to DEM WARMINZ!!!

If you'd put down the bong long enough to read what I wrote, you might not post such stupid shit. And/or stick to shit that you know about.

And there were a lot of fires in the 30s. To start, 26 or so firefighters were killed in a Griffith Park, LA fire in 1933. See previous advice about sticking to what you know.

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Flatlander = OG IS trailer trash laundromat attendant

[Blurred]

If you'd put down the bong long enough to read what I wrote, you might not post such stupid shit. And/or stick to shit that you know about.

And there were a lot of fires in the 30s. To start, 26 or so firefighters were killed in a Griffith Park, LA fire in 1933. See previous advice about sticking to what you know.

That's the worst googling you've done yet! Der was lots of dem thirties. Fires!!! Here is my first googling' hit!!! LOL

[Meadow Skipper]

That's the worst googling you've done yet! Der was lots of dem thirties. Fires!!! Here is my first googling' hit!!! LOL

You know that I was in the fire game for 32 years, right? I've forgotten more than you'll ever know about it. I didn't have to google shit. Fuck off now.

[Hott Butt Mud]

in 1887, the single greatest wild land fire in recorded history occurred. The "Great Western Fire" of 1887 scorched more than 2.2 Million acres of land in the Upper Kaibash area of the US Territory now known as the Front Range. Why else do you think there are no trees in the plains?

1887 was also THE hottest year on record and was ALSO the beginning of the great train boom. Do you think that's a coincidence? Guess how much CO2 was emmited with all of those fucking trains roaming around? Put two and two together and not only do you get four, you also get GLOBAL WARMING!

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You know that I was in the fire game for 32 years, right? I've forgotten more than you'll ever know about it. I didn't have to google shit. Fuck off now.

Probably back in 1933 too, right?

[powder11]

If everyone would just start driving hybrids and buying green laundry soap, we could all feel so much better about emitting carbon into the atmosphere.

[f2f]

i emit methane too.

[TBS]

in 1887, the single greatest wild land fire in recorded history occurred. The "Great Western Fire" of 1887 scorched more than 2.2 Million acres of land in the Upper Kaibash area of the US Territory now known as the Front Range. Why else do you think there are no trees in the plains?

1887 was also THE hottest year on record and was ALSO the beginning of the great train boom. Do you think that's a coincidence? Guess how much CO2 was emmited with all of those fucking trains roaming around? Put two and two together and not only do you get four, you also get GLOBAL WARMING!

Uh, you don't know your history very well. the "Big Burn" took out 3 million contiguous acres of timber in NE WA, ID and MT in 1910, despite the efforts of 10,000 firefighters. Caused by lightening on top of dry conditions. That land regenerated pretty well.

Ed Pulaski was a USFS fire boss on that blaze - you wild land firefighters can thank him for the Pulaski you lug around.
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[Rasputin]

Simple minds are easily amused.

Yes Blurred, but that doesn't mean you should feel bad about yourself.

[Hott Butt Mud]

Uh, you don't know your history very well. the "Big Burn" took out 3 million contiguous acres of timber in NE WA, ID and MT in 1910, despite the efforts of 10,000 firefighters. Caused by lightening on top of dry conditions. That land regenerated pretty well.

Ed Pulaski was a USFS fire boss on that blaze - you wild land firefighters can thank him for the Pulaski you lug around.
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[the Cock]

Why else do you think there are no trees in the plains?

Hott Butt Mud=funneh

[powhore]

Hint- warmest decade of the 20th century was in the 1930's....

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