let it burn or save it

[flatlander#2]

With regard to structure in the event of a forest fire.

I live in a valley flush with long needle pine, Evergreen CO area. My valley has more homes of $2M plus than less and not a ton of houses, we are pretty spread out. In my mind I would like my house to just go rather than move back into a house that I doubt you ever get the smell out of and then are surrounded by dead shit for the rest of my life. I've been riding in the Buff Creek area for 15 years and have seen the change that area went through and still looks burned out. To me I'd be bummed out with looking out at that every day and you have a home that you are going to have a hell of a time unloading. Can I tell the local FD to save the trees and let the house go as I can rebuild that in a season, but the trees are gone for longer than my life? Is it just a consequence of living where I live that if the forest is burning they save houses?

[belgian]

I have no input here but I find it difficult to believe your insurance company would be paying out if you told the FD to "let it burn" and have you on record here as saying as much... Especially if you're in one of those $2M+ houses.

[leroy jenkins]

Are burned areas really that bad after a couple years? I get the smell in your house part that could be awful, but looking out at some charred trees with fresh growing grass, is that really that bad? From hiking and biking through year old burns I can say it doesnt look like the mordor you are describing.

[Bunion 2020]

Fire is part of the plan.

If there is a choice the FD is going to do structure protection regardless of what you say, a lot of the contract fire companies are employed by insurance companies to prevent losses like you describe.

Regen after a burn happens pretty fast.

Best of luck

[Elkhound Odin]

Ditto with Belgian. You insurance company wants the structure in place if possible. They find out you let it burn when it could be saved, you'll lose the house and the value when they don't payout. If you are self insured and rather have a black hole in the ground, go for. Put up big signs telling the fire dept to move on to the next home.

[Hott Butt Mud]

Yeah dude, be realistic.

You've been to Summit County right? A lot of those homes now stare out into a clear cut forest with downed trees everywhere. To me, that's not as cool or good looking as a burned out hillside.

[Benny Profane]

Do you realize that some people die in order to save your house during a fire? And you are being so, I don't know, cavalier about this? Save the trees, burn the house, like leave the gun, take the cannoli. Jeez.
Personally, I think anybody who builds a cedar shake roofed MacMansion in the middle of a very dry CO. pIne covered hillside, like my friend's neighbor in Evergreen, deserves to be burnt to the ground, and should pay enormously high premiums for the pleasure.

[flatlander#2]

Do you realize that some people die in order to save your house during a fire? And you are being so, I don't know, cavalier about this? Save the trees, burn the house, like leave the gun, take the cannoli. Jeez.
Personally, I think anybody who builds a cedar shake roofed MacMansion in the middle of a very dry CO. pIne covered hillside, like my friend's neighbor in Evergreen, deserves to be burnt to the ground, and should pay enormously high premiums for the pleasure.

That's what I'm saying, why die to save a house that can be rebuilt in six months? By me having a house in that location am I de facto asking someone to risk their life for my structure? Those planes are burning $120 in fuel an hour, plus pilot, plus plane, plus retardant. Are insurance companies really paying for that? Plus the poor dudes on the ground risking their lives. Just seems kind of whack.

Pretty sure they don't even allow cedar shake anymore.

[Benny Profane]

That's what I'm saying, why die to save a house that can be rebuilt in six months? By me having a house in that location am I de facto asking someone to risk their life for my structure? Those planes are burning $120 in fuel an hour, plus pilot, plus plane, plus retardant. Are insurance companies really paying for that? Plus the poor dudes on the ground risking their lives. Just seems kind of whack.

Pretty sure they don't even allow cedar shake anymore.

It don't work that way, dude. Policy is, save lives first, then structures. And, since there are so many like you living in fire prone places these days, they are forced to fight the fire that may take out your palace, even if a few firefighters get fried. I mean, what, are you advocating for some sort of selective fire fighting? "Hey, says here Mr. Flatlander wants his house gone and trees saved. Get on it!" Right.

[iceman]

I'd be all for letting the structures burn if they banned rebuilding in those proven fire-prone areas, but since they won't do that you might as well save the structures that are there i guess. At least you won't need to cut down even more trees to rebuild them.

[/not very well-thought-out opinion]

[carvedog]

There is this product called gasoline. Just a little here and there could make a big difference in whether the house survives.

Delete thread.

[FrankZappa]

Go to: edquillen.com
search: "stupid zone"
read various results
while listening to something like this when shit is hitting fan

[counterfeitfake]

If this is really your line of thinking, maybe don't live there?

[Hott Butt Mud]

Yeah move back to Michigan. Ann Arbor's a whore!

[leroy jenkins]

I'd be all for letting the structures burn if they banned rebuilding in those proven fire-prone areas, but since they won't do that you might as well save the structures that are there i guess. At least you won't need to cut down even more trees to rebuild them.

[/not very well-thought-out opinion]

What if they were only allowed to rebuild using brick/stone?

Houses in general are not built to last these days like they were in the past. There are 400 year old houses in europe that people live in like its no big deal.

[stuckathuntermtn]

If insurance companies or government actually mandated that people clear the trees around their properties, it would help save shit




and it would look like shit










so you could see what all that development is really doing.

[Blurred]

Borderline insurance fraud. Why not ask your agent?

[BmillsSkier]

Do you realize that some people die in order to save your house during a fire? And you are being so, I don't know, cavalier about this? Save the trees, burn the house, like leave the gun, take the cannoli. Jeez.
Personally, I think anybody who builds a cedar shake roofed MacMansion in the middle of a very dry CO. pIne covered hillside, like my friend's neighbor in Evergreen, deserves to be burnt to the ground, and should pay enormously high premiums for the pleasure.

The rich should burn and pay for the pleasure huh?

That's really out of character for you Benny.

[Benny Profane]

The rich should burn and pay for the pleasure huh?

That's really out of character for you Benny.

Oh jezuz, dumbfuck, just the opposite. The rich shouldn't be supported by taxpayer funded fire services and the blood and flesh of firefighters so that they can live in the fire prone woods. They're also getting a break on insurance, paid for by the rest of us, as the risk is spread out among us all.

[flatlander#2]

Oh jezuz, dumbfuck, just the opposite. The rich shouldn't be supported by taxpayer funded fire services and the blood and flesh of firefighters so that they can live in the fire prone woods. They're also getting a break on insurance, paid for by the rest of us, as the risk is spread out among us all.

Really? Hmm...

[Pow4Brains]

Personally, I think anybody who builds a cedar shake roofed MacMansion in the middle of a very dry CO. pIne covered hillside, like my friend's neighbor in Evergreen, deserves to be burnt to the ground, and should pay enormously high premiums for the pleasure.

Have fun in your concrete jungle, fuck that. I will gladly pay an increased premium to live where I live. I guess we should start banning every lake front property too.
2nd on better types of construction suited for wooded areas though. Now days most municipalities in wooded areas have very strict fire mitigation regulations but few are reto-active FWIW.

[Pow4Brains]

as the risk is spread out among us all.

Isn’t that the whole basis of “insurance”?

[Benny Profane]

Isn’t that the whole basis of “insurance”?

A beachfront mansion owner in Florida who lives directly in the path of many hurricanes snickers.

[Benny Profane]

Have fun in your concrete jungle

Actually, I live in the woods, too. But, it rains here.

[Pow4Brains]

A beachfront mansion owner in Florida who lives directly in the path of many hurricanes snickers.

And a guy in the rainy woods bitches.