Tebow time - Wow!

[Smoova]

Check the video. He actually said, "I mighta said that, or maybe a block"...

He admitted to praying for a miss or block. Straight up.

At 2:05:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XjzZYSx1bU

You're right - he prayed for a miss or a block. He has not (as far as I know) said that his god was responsible for the outcome of any game. I think he's been pretty well coached to dance along the fine line between giving credit to his god for his own opportunities/success/etc and giving his god credit for the things that his teammates have done.

Again, splitting hairs and, as a side note, I really hate defending organized religion.

[userA]

i pray for snow so am i destined to go tebow?

[MotherFucker]

You're right - he prayed for a miss or a block. He has not (as far as I know) said that his god was responsible for the outcome of any game. I think he's been pretty well coached to dance along the fine line between giving credit to his god for his own opportunities/success/etc and giving his god credit for the things that his teammates have done.

Again, splitting hairs and, as a side note, I really hate defending organized religion.

I think you just said it best, really. And I'm with you on the religion thing.

[smmokan]

I actually have no problems with his delusional, crazy beliefs in a god or son of god that is a football fan. What I DO have a problem with is this streak could EASILY have resulted in a record of 1-8 vs 8-1. Nowhere in any of those games is there any time of domination or solid play by Tebow.

Also, as mentioned they have played crap teams with multiple injuries.

I hate on Tebow and the hype because his defense saves his ass ALL the time, and they get almost no credit. And as much as I like how the defense has kept them in games, they can't keep real offense teams in check.

So many things you've said are pointless arguments, but I've done you the favor of pointing them out here.

- They "could have easily" lost those games, but you know what? The Broncos didn't lose those games. They won. They would have lost with Kyle Orton (in fact, they did lose them, and were 1-4 or 2-5 or whatever) but with Tebow they find a way to win.

- Who you play in the NFL doesn't matter. Your record is based on wins and losses, not wins against quality teams or shitty teams. Every NFL team deals with injuries- even the Broncos, if you haven't noticed. A win is a win- this isn't college football.

- If you think the Broncos' defense doesn't get any credit, then you're not paying attention. All of the "experts" are saying how this D is so much better than last year, and they have two of the best players in the league right now in Miller and Dumervil. Want to know one of the reasons they're playing better? Denver's ball control offense... the D isn't on the field nearly as much as before.

Most everyone's points are simply arguments for the sake of arguing. Face it: the Broncos are winning close games like they've never done before, and it happens to "coincide" with Tebow's arrival as the starter. Talk shit all you want about the fact that he doesn't pass like Rodgers or Brees, but again- that's not all that matters in the NFL. It's a team game, and Tebow is the ultimate team player.

[pappag]

Also, as mentioned they have played crap teams with multiple injuries.

4th hardest schedule in the league through week 12 based on current records... 4th hardest.

http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/1251247

[PowTron]

It doesn't matter what teams they play for the team's wins...if you are only talking about this season.

I am talking about the future and that Broncos fans should REALLY think long and hard if you want to get this guy for the long run as when those "almost" loses turn into real loses, they will all be crying.

In your attempt to call all of my "pointless arguments" just that, you have proven my point of the near-sightedness of the situation and the Broncos fans. When I say the Defense doesn't get the credit, I am not talking about the "experts" or the knowledgeable football fan...I am talking about 95% of the morons that walk around thinking Tebow is a better QB than Elway was.

As for them losing four of the first five games with Orton, ALL four of those losses were to better teams than them NOW. They would still have lost to the Raiders (WITH McFadden and Campbell, a completely different team), the Bengals, the Packers, and the Titans with Tim Tebow starting.

He began starting at the perfect time to hit the soft spot in the schedule...

[PowTron]

4th hardest schedule in the league through week 12 based on current records... 4th hardest.

http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/1251247

I see them at 7th hardest schedule?

[cranked]

Most everyone's points are simply arguments for the sake of arguing. Face it: the Broncos are winning close games like they've never done before, and it happens to "coincide" with Tebow's arrival as the starter. Talk shit all you want about the fact that he doesn't pass like Rodgers or Brees, but again- that's not all that matters in the NFL. It's a team game, and Tebow is the ultimate team player.

Horseshit...they are a .500 team with Tebow at the helm (not right now, but it will even out...they will lose as many close ones as they win - see the 2011 Buffalo Bills). I don't care if he worships poop or god, all I know is, he isn't a viable long-term QB in the NFL. Look at the below list for the last 20+ years. To win Super Bowls in the NFL it is almost g'teed you need a future HoF QB, unless you have an all-time defense...Tebow is an amazing athlete, and a great competitor, but the Broncos chances to win lie in the arms of one of the young guns available in next year's draft. In my mind, this is McDaniels somehow channeling himself to fuck up yet another Broncos draft.

http://www.docsports.com/current/sup...rterbacks.html

Super Bowl 1. Bart Starr (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 2. Bart Starr (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 3. Joe Namath (MVP), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 4. Len Dawson (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 5. John Unitas (Chuck Howley), 1 TD
Super Bowl 6. Roger Staubach (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 7. Bob Griese (Jake Scott), 1 TD
Super Bowl 8. Bob Griese (Larry Csonka), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 9. Terry Bradshaw (Franco Harris), 1 TD
Super Bowl 10. Terry Bradshaw (Lynn Swann), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 11. Ken Stabler (Fred Biletnikoff), 1 TD
Super Bowl 12. Roger Staubach (Harvey Martin & Randy White), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 13. Terry Bradshaw (MVP), 4 TDs
Super Bowl 14. Terry Bradshaw (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 15. Jim Plunkett (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 16. Joe Montana (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 17. Joe Theismann (John Riggins), 2 TDs,
Super Bowl 18. Jim Plunkett (Marcus Allen), 1 TD
Super Bowl 19. Joe Montana (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 20. Jim McMahon (Richard Dent), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 21. Phil Simms (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 22. Doug Williams (MVP), 4 TDs
Super Bowl 23. Joe Montana (Jerry Rice), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 24. Joe Montana (MVP), 5 TDs
Super Bowl 25. Jeff Hostetler (Ottis Anderson), 1 TD
Super Bowl 26. Mark Rypien (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 27. Troy Aikman (MVP), 4 TDs
Super Bowl 28. Troy Aikman (Emmitt Smith), O TDs
Super Bowl 29. Steve Young (MVP), 6 TDs
Super Bowl 30. Troy Aikman (Larry Brown), 1 TD
Super Bowl 31. Brett Favre (Desmond Howard), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 32. John Elway (Terrell Davis), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 33. John Elway (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 34. Kurt Warner (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 35. Trent Dilfer (Ray Lewis), 1 TD
Super Bowl 36. Tom Brady (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 37. Brad Johnson (Dexter Jackson), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 38. Tom Brady (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 39. Tom Brady (Deion Branch), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 40. Ben Roethlisberger (Hines Ward), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 41. Peyton Manning (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 42. Eli Manning (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 43: Ben Roethlisberger (Santonio Holmes), 1 TD
Super Bowl 44: Drew Brees (MVP), 2 TDs
[EDIT]Super Bowl 45: Aaron "Discount Double Check" Rogers

[carvedog]

Oh Mighty Smiter, please smite down upon those who vehemently deny the greatness and achievements of The Tebow. Heretics one and all.

That said there sure are a lot of haters with their panties bunched up into a big ole prostate impacting wad. Try breathing some. Or decaf.

[cmsummit]

Pumped to be headed to Mile High for this weekend's game, although I WILL NOT be rooting for Teeboy and the Donkeys. Pats never play that well in Denver. I think it's going to be interesting.

[MotherFucker]

As a Broncos fan, all that matters is a championship and Tebow will never get us there.

That's why I'll continue to hope we draft another QB or bring in a vet (no one is out there though) so Tebow can contribute in other ways. As in maybe getting us back a few draft picks or a decent trade for him. Or maybe he'll sack up and move to TE. He'd fucking kill it as an end.

[Socialist]

I don't hate Tebow, I hate Tebow fans.

[timnormandin]

some of you know nothing of religion. You should go to church sometime just to see or read some books. Tebow (and I'm not a huge fan) doesn't think God helps him win. He has faith and believes strongly in God and is thankful that he has the opportunity to play pro ball and he is thankful that he was able to not be injured, etc.... It has nothing to do with him thinking God cares who wins a football game. He's excited when they win but dude is sincere in his faith. I'm not a huge go to church kinda guy either but I get his whole faith thing. It may or may not be for everyone but don't hate the kid because he believes in God and isn't afraid to tell people. His QB skills are pretty bad at times but he wins....for now. I think it'll catch up to him and teams will adjust but it is kinda fun to watch and I'm not a Bronco fan. The coverage he gets is pretty ridiculous, but TV and sports talk radio are based on ratings and that kid moves the dial from both kooks that love him and those that hate him.

I didn't realize you two were that close. Thanks for clearing up the misperceptions.

[Downbound Train]

Tim Tebow doesn't wear a watch, HE decides when it's Tebow Time.

Tim Tebow does not believe in evolution that is why he has refused to learn to pass.

Tim Tebow can talk about fight club

When you open a can of whoop-ass, Tim Tebow jumps out.

[smmokan]

When I say the Defense doesn't get the credit, I am not talking about the "experts" or the knowledgeable football fan...I am talking about 95% of the morons that walk around thinking Tebow is a better QB than Elway was.

No one thinks Tebow is better than Elway, and you saying 95% of Broncos fans think that is just fucking stupid. Seriously.

[neckdeep]

As a Broncos fan, all that matters is a championship and Tebow will never get us there.

That's why I'll continue to hope we draft another QB or bring in a vet (no one is out there though) so Tebow can contribute in other ways. As in maybe getting us back a few draft picks or a decent trade for him. Or maybe he'll sack up and move to TE. He'd fucking kill it as an end.

Wow, you sure are some Broncos fan...If you really were more than a poser fan and had suffered through all those games in that 6-24 stretch over the last seasons, then you'd just be glad for some action, thrills and wins. You'd wait until the kid ruins a season with bad plays before you trashed him. But you sound like some frustrated guy who can't pick a fantasy football team and so wastes everybody's time acting like he knows all about football and can predict the future. Even though you've already guessed wrong six out of the last seven times, even though Tebow's showing progression in his skills and decision making, even though his early numbers are notably better than several other past run and gun style QBs who evolved into franchise players, even though its clearly his presence which turned around the poor attitude of a severly underperforming D and changed the whole damn season almost overnight. You'd rather be right than see the Broncs win games now in the present instead of in fantasy theories.....big fan, eh. Timmy is too nice to say it so I will. Fuck off and just enjoy the ride.....that is coming from a hardcore atheist, not some jeebus freak.

[MotherFucker]

Wow, you sure are some Broncos fan...If you really were more than a poser fan and had suffered through all those games in that 6-24 stretch over the last seasons, then you'd just be glad for some action, thrills and wins. You'd wait until the kid ruins a season with bad plays before you trashed him. But you're just some frustrated guy who can't pick a fantasy football team and wastes everybody's time acting like he knows all about football and can predict the future. Even though you've already guessed wrong six out of the last seven times, even though Tebow's showing progression in his skills and decision making, even though his early numbers are notably better than several other past run and gun style QBs who evolved into franchise players. You'd rather be right than see the Broncs win.....big fan,

Woah, someone needs to take Tebow's dick outta their mouth for a second so they can tell me how exactly they got I'm a poser fan out of wanting nothing but championships for this team. Are you seriously arguing that he'll win us Superbowls? Seriously? That's some fanboy-poser shit if I've ever heard it. Meet the kettle, please.

I don't give a shit if Jesus himself comes down to give Tebow his blessing, unless he starts winning playoff games and Superbowls, he can go fuck off to Jacksonville or wherever else people like you are just happy for some "action, thrills and wins". Fuck that shit; this town used to care about nothing other than championships and until he does something more than win games in overtime against the bottom half of the league's defenses in the regular season, he won't get my blessing.

Some Denver fans still have high expectations and aren't satisfied with 58 minutes of shitty football followed by 22 guys fighting for their fucking life to maybe pull it out in the last couple minutes. We expect more, Elway gets it, and will make it happen this offseason.

And that 6-24 stretch? I suffered through a decade of losing. It was the 2000's unless you forgot. No championship? You didn't win shit.

EDIT: And what in the fuck does fantasy football have anything to do with Tebow and the Broncos? Stop being a worthless tool.

[Downbound Train]

..."I do think this Tebow boomlet is about faith. And it’s about confidence. And leadership. And humility -- a humbleness born of strength and conviction. It is about Tebow’s faith in his own teammates. It is about his faith and confidence in his own organization. It is about him acknowledging his own weaknesses and failings and mistakes and understanding that if his team looks good, then he looks good."

http://www.nationaljournal.com/colum...style-20111212

This economy, and our country, do not need more programs out of Washington, D.C., or legislation from Congress, or tax cuts for the wealthy, or more spending on government stimulus. What citizens and businesses need is a leader who can raise us all up to a level we didn’t know we had in us, give us confidence in ourselves, give us a common goal to work toward, and make us believe in and have faith in ourselves again.
It seems this is a leadership lesson we keep having to learn over and over again through our country’s history. It is so easy to forget how successes were achieved along the way by Kennedy-style exhortations such as “we are going to the moon.”

But maybe a quarterback who seems as much boy as man can show us all, including the candidates for president, how to win and how to get our country back on track. And how to have a little fun along the way. Now that is a leader I would enthusiastically go in the huddle with."

-This is why liberals hate God.

Ooops. Wrong forum JONG!

[geomorph]

Pumped to be headed to Mile High for this weekend's game, although I WILL NOT be rooting for Teeboy and the Donkeys. Pats never play that well in Denver. I think it's going to be interesting.

The real miracle will be if Tebow makes the Pat's secondary look halfway decent.

[userA]

we all look good bro

[BmillsSkier]

Geez, what a bunch of fucking crybaby fans here!

Who seriously bitches when "their" team is on one hell of a win streak and may make the playoffs in a dramatic fashion? If it's not Rodgers and Co. then it's shit now? Wow, this truly is the "me" generation.

Try being a Browns fan. We'll take Tebow off your hands any day you want to send him east.

[neckdeep]

; this town used to care about nothing other than championships and until he does something more than win games in overtime against the bottom half of the league's defenses in the regular season, he won't get my blessing.

l.

Oh boy, your fair weather blessing, thats worth a whole lot...the broncs been playing for 50 years and have two championships....who were you blessing for the other 48 years? Real fans root out of loyalty and for the team's effort.

[MotherFucker]

Oh boy, your blessing, thats worth a whole lot...the broncs been playing for 50 years and have two championships....who were you blessing for the other 48 years?

What the fuck even is your point? Are you arguing Tebow can win us championships?

Make some sense. Please.

[concretejungle]

He really fires up the sewing circle huh?

I hope he can bring back tags before unborking the server.

[MotherFucker]

Neckdeep in bullshit, maybe. Way to think about what you said for 20 minutes then go back and edit it to put in there whatever you found on google and/or to make yourself sound less illiterate.

You might be over 55 and have rooted for the Broncos since your Mom shot you out of her cannon but I'm only 27 and have lived in an NFL city (Denver) for all of exactly five years so excuse me if I wasn't shat out covered in orange and blue like you were Mr. Pretentious.

If you're a "true" Broncos fan, I'm happy I'm not one. I'll still love the Broncos, though, regardless of which half-assed slash-type guy they put behind center.

Oh yeah, the question still stands; do you really believe Tebow can win us a championship? And if not, will you be content for just "action, thrills and wins" like you apparently are now? Man, I bet you love college football. Everyone gets to go to a bowl game regardless of how shitty they are.