Review: Binding Freedom Inserts - The Swiss Cheese Experiment

[Pillard]

Smart! I have the mini-dremel with the brush (should have thought of that) but this idea is even easier

[Johnny Utah]

Abort options. Hypothetical situation, my “friend” drilled and tapped a few holes for inserts 3 years ago, and maybe some of these hypothetical holes are totally FUBAR’d for reasons not worth discussing. Now my “friend” wants to just bail, plug his holes and finally start skiing his praxis BC again with whatever bindings he can manage to mount between the cheese.

What would you recommend my friend — who is me — use to plug those holes and move on with his life? hardman yellow? Some concoction of glue, plugs and steelwool? The job will performed on a kitchen table with zero tools that currently exist in the house. Gimme the “hole plug solution for dumb dumbs” please. Thank you!


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[Johnny Utah]

Abort options. Hypothetical situation, my “friend” drilled and tapped a few holes for inserts 3 years ago, and maybe some of these hypothetical holes are totally FUBAR’d for reasons not worth discussing. Now my “friend” wants to just bail, plug his holes and finally start skiing his praxis BC again with whatever bindings he can manage to mount between the cheese.

What would you recommend my friend — who is me — use to plug those holes and move on with his life? hardman yellow? Some concoction of glue, plugs and steelwool? The job will performed on a kitchen table with zero tools that currently exist in the house. Gimme the “hole plug solution for dumb dumbs” please. Thank you!


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[XXX-er]

if the inserts that are more or less waterproof I would suggest your friend just leave them in the ski and try to find some solid material to screw the new mount into

for filling but not mounting into a hole i like BBQ skewers, a big bag for 3$ at safeway

for a screw I want to use to hold the binding on I like 1/2" chopped up fibreglass cloth with slowset epoxy

T-square/ tape measure/ drill & bit are the minimum supplies needed

if your friend was enough of a dumbass to fuck it up the 1st time he might redeem himself by getting it done at a shop which might also be more cost effective cuz all the supplies will cost $$$

[HAB]

1/4" hardwood dowels fit into insert holes really nicely. I've filled insert holes with ~8mm sections of dowel and G-Flex with good results.

[Johnny Utah]

1/4" hardwood dowels fit into insert holes really nicely. I've filled insert holes with ~8mm sections of dowel and G-Flex with good results.

I like this


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[margotron]

Anyone willing to part with 16 inserts? I need to do a pair of skis, but am cleaned out from giving them away apparently. Will compensate!

[DarthMarkus]

Anyone willing to part with 16 inserts? I need to do a pair of skis, but am cleaned out from giving them away apparently. Will compensate!

There's a shop in foco called "on the edge" he usually carries some inserts, though he's kinda stingy... Might be worth a shot!

If you end up ordering some for yourself I'd pitch in to buy a bunch and bring the price down.

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[margotron]

There's a shop in foco called "on the edge" he usually carries some inserts, though he's kinda stingy... Might be worth a shot!

If you end up ordering some for yourself I'd pitch in to buy a bunch and bring the price down.

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i think we might have to go that route! How many we thinking? Entry is like $40 for 25 ($1.60 per) or $150 for $100 ($1.50 per)

never had good luck buying from a shop; they always to protect their interest. ill ping him tomorrow anyway

[singlecross]

Going to be running 20 unused holes (yellow) in VWerks Katanas. Snuck in one more mount (red). Thought of this thread... wish me luck.

[LeoK]

Hello Cheese Lovers!

Quick question: I have some excessive cheese lying around and want to reset everything on those planks to do inserts for ATKs.
Tool supply and workshop is kind of limited so I guess I just pull all plastic plugs and will fill those holes with epoxy and some sawdust if I find any.

Whats my method to get the ski flat again? or do I just not fill up too much?

Thank you guys so much for all the info here, just got lost on this step!

[cat in january]

I just use a sharp knife after it hardens

[Toddball]

I like using a sharp wood chisel for removing volcanoes and stray epoxy, should work okay for decapitating epoxy + sawdust fill.

[singlecross]

A Surform is the tool you need to quickly, easily, and safely flatten the top sheet after plugging holes. Cross between a block plane and a cheese grater. Less than $15 and will last for years in a ski toolbox.

[Norseman]

I prefer a carbide scraper. Actually been using it all over the place and it kicks ass.

[singlecross]

I prefer a carbide scraper. Actually been using it all over the place and it kicks ass.

Thread drift but… Oh, my shoulders hurt just looking at that thing! I stripped the bottom paint off a 70’ sailboat with one of those. It took weeks but was the only option. It certainly kicked my ass!

[GoldenBC]

So it's been a decade since I looked at inserts. I have some screw kits from binding freedom but now I see that they don't sell the kits anymore. It seems like you have to build your own order of screws. When/why did this change?

Also, are quiver killers totally interchangeable? I assume the threads are identical but you know what they say about assuming.

[rfconroy]

So it's been a decade since I looked at inserts. I have some screw kits from binding freedom but now I see that they don't sell the kits anymore. It seems like you have to build your own order of screws. When/why did this change?

Also, are quiver killers totally interchangeable? I assume the threads are identical but you know what they say about assuming.

Not sure about your first question, but while they're most interchangeable - BF is about 0.5mm longer in length, so they need to be drilled and tapped deeper

[GoldenBC]

Not sure about your first question, but while they're most interchangeable - BF is about 0.5mm longer in length, so they need to be drilled and tapped deeper

Thanks.
My first question is, why doesn’t BF sell screw kits for each binding like QK does and like they used to rather than making me order individual screws while referencing a chart?

[Cocximus]

You can also score 100pcs SS M5 screws for about $20 on amazon (canada). That makes referencing the chart worthwhile. Hex heads though.

[SoVT Joey]

Thanks.
My first question is, why doesn’t BF sell screw kits for each binding like QK does and like they used to rather than making me order individual screws while referencing a chart?

Quiver Killer has been way more responsive and helpful for me. Their screw kits make it way easier. I put in an order two weeks ago for a plum yak screw kit and they called me 2 hours later to verify it was definitely yaks and I wasn’t shimming. They have also sent me a couple test packs of screws at no cost when I was messing with heel shims.

the tap from BF is better, but that’s simply due to the fact it’s a SVST tap. QK has better quality control on the inserts. I had 6 inserts with no internal threads. Kinda blows when the inserts aren’t exactly cheap.

is BF owned by SVST now? Which could make sense with the non responsive and in helpful stuff. SVST sells some of the best ski tools, except the stupid jigarex, but they nearly impossible to deal with.

[GoldenBC]

Not sure about your first question, but while they're most interchangeable - BF is about 0.5mm longer in length, so they need to be drilled and tapped deeper

Quiver Killer has been way more responsive and helpful for me. Their screw kits make it way easier. I put in an order two weeks ago for a plum yak screw kit and they called me 2 hours later to verify it was definitely yaks and I wasn’t shimming. They have also sent me a couple test packs of screws at no cost when I was messing with heel shims.

the tap from BF is better, but that’s simply due to the fact it’s a SVST tap. QK has better quality control on the inserts. I had 6 inserts with no internal threads. Kinda blows when the inserts aren’t exactly cheap.

is BF owned by SVST now? Which could make sense with the non responsive and in helpful stuff. SVST sells some of the best ski tools, except the stupid jigarex, but they nearly impossible to deal with.

Thanks Quiver Killer it is now.

[fleaches]

Thanks.
My first question is, why doesn’t BF sell screw kits for each binding like QK does and like they used to rather than making me order individual screws while referencing a chart?

Did BF ever do this? When I first bought inserts ~5 years ago only QK had the kits assembled for specific bindings, for BF there was a chart to help you pick out screws but that was all.

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[Cocximus]

For spandex rando racers and ballers titanium screws https://www.mcmaster.com/screws/thre...tyle~phillips/

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Inserts are so 2010


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