No. Read below. I spent a week in Libya as a kid with my mom before Kaddafhi when we still had an airbase in Tripoli. 43 years later, I still can hear the cat calls and see the leering when we walked down the street. In hindsight, I'm not sure if it was directed at me or my mom.
Silent....but shredly.
yeah, they sure are barbaric. going after a millionaire reporter feeding bullshit back to the people who fuck them for generations. i mean, really, she's just a girl doing her job, right? why can't they be more civilized? it's not like people ever get hurt in these things.
There's a reason i have had the spook alias on ignore for years. spook is an annoying troll, not a funny troll. Now stop quoting it for heavens sakes.
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I think it's about time someone inserted one of these for no good reason.
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Even when the country was calmer western women couldn't go anywhere without being grabbed and catcalled. Guys in Egypt generally think western women are all sluts. Probably because of how they dress compared to what those guys are used to.
She should have had much better security.
Definitely a situation where you don't send an attractive female reporter to cover a violent, lawless country in Africa.
What happened to her "security?"
^^^Seconded. Unfortunately there is a lot of "I wanna play with the boys" involved with female correspondents. Lara has been trying to set herself up as the next Christiane Amanpour for a while - unfortunately she didn't think things through - Amanpour would never have been in that crowd with her head uncovered... and she's not blonde (a rarity, and looked on as extra-slutty.)
"Reading Comprehension." Look it up.
They were overwhelmed by 200 rioters. Even if she had 5 guards with her wtf are they gonna do?
We go through Training for situations like this every couple of years, taught by former SAS officers. Our guys would NEVER have let her anywhere near a large group of excited Arab men with her hair long & loose like this:
I'm not saying she asked for it or deserved what she got. I am saying that she & her team acted stupidly.
Have any war reporters ever gotten killed getting the story? It's the same thing. You cover dangerous stories in dangerous places, you have to expect shit is going to happen. I'm sorry it did, but it's the breaks. Life isn't always puppies and rainbows.
This is the worst pain EVER!
I think the ignorance of Egyptian culture and it's relation to Islam is pretty staggering on this forum.
While I don't know all the details, I really, really, really don't think it wasn't because she wasn't wearing a "beekeepers" outfit. I think that the U.S.'s 30 year support of a fascist regime might have a little bit more to do with what happened. Egypt is a very secular country, and has been for hundreds of years. She was NOT assaulted because she wasn't dressed like a traditional Muslim. That's just ignorant.
Here's a picture of some Egyptian women protesting in their own country:
No beekeeper outfits, as some have mentioned.
I'd say about 1/2 of the women there are conservative, and dressed as such. The others are not.
I'm always amazed by how utterly ignorant Americans in general are of Muslims, and how we think we know what their problems are and how to solve them, and even why they are mad at Americans. It's absolutely scary when you realize how good we are at pissing them off, and how many more of them then there are of us.
BTW, Egypt is also full of Christians, too, not just Muslims. And a few Jews.
What does this say about the effectiveness of sexual repression, head gear, etc when it's almost expected that men who live in that culture can't be trusted around a modestly dressed (by western standards) HOT white woman?
She would have no issues or fear of being raped walking down any well lit western world street.
What do you expect. They cut off girls clits at age 11 in the name of god. Savage muslim freeks.
"Hold my beer...Watch this!"
My beekeeper outfit and "over there"comment is only an observation in the broader sense of the muslim world. And this incident shouldn't be an indictment of the whole male muslim population. And the ignorance you speak of is stereotyping male muslims, the same way blonde, blued eyed western babes are stereotyped by some muslims as slutty and therefore attackable. Those pix of the muslim gals might explain why. I think there might be one in the 1st picture that is marginally boneworthy.
Silent....but shredly.
uhh, he's being factual. Are you trying to be funny, or are you just ignorant?
http://www.suite101.com/content/fema...#ixzz1E8bWawNGFemale circumcision may go back to the time of the Pharaohs. While unlawful in most countries today, the practice continues in Egypt and other areas.
No joke. Egypt's policy towards women and sex is way off base. They've been making women get clitorectomies, aka Female Genital Mutilation for a long time:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/karin-..._b_154256.html
"Oh, we slept together. It is British women who taught me the idea of giving pleasure." His voice raised in enthusiasm as he pointed a finger at his forehead. "One woman taught me how to use your mind to control yourself--she said, look, just concentrate!--so you don't have an orgasm in two minutes. Now, I can resist for about an hour."
"And Egyptian women?"
Mohammed/Mike suddenly looked downcast. "They're all circumcised here, so when you sleep with a woman, it's like sleeping with a piece of wood. They're cold."
"They're ALL circumsized here?"
"Yes."
"All? These millions of women? I thought it was now illegal!"
"Two years ago, it became illegal. But all the women--trust me--l00 percent of them are circumcised. Rich, poor, every woman. I tell myself I should never have left Egypt. Then I wouldn't know the difference. The men here, they are satisfied. They have sex for two minutes, just to relieve themselves, and the women lie like boards. My brothers, for them it's like that. What do they know? They're farmers. They have never slept with tourists."
Official Egyptian statistics say 97 percent of women aged 15 to 49,
Christians and Muslims alike, have undergone what the UN prefers to call
female genital mutilation, or FGM.
Screw the net, Surf the backcountry!
Secular Egyptian democracy lovers shouted "Jew! Jew!" during their brutal sexual assault of "60 Minutes" reporter Lara Logan
"Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews..." -- Qur'an 5:82
"CBS reporter's Cairo nightmare: Lara Logan set upon by mob in brutal sex attack," by Michael Shain, Don Kaplan and Kate Sheehy for the New York Post, February 16
"60 Minutes" correspondent Lara Logan was repeatedly sexually assaulted by thugs yelling, "Jew! Jew!" as she covered the chaotic fall of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak in Cairo's main square Friday, CBS and sources said yesterday.
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I'm gonna dig into this. I actually know some Egyptians who live in Egypt, and have friends that were born there. I'm very close to the ones who live here now, and don't have qualms about talking about anything with them. I've never once heard any of them mention this, nor would I believe that any of them would think that it's anything other then an autrocity. Maybe they've never mentioned it out of shame.
If she were in the middle of a (sometimes)violent, emotionally charged mob who had been on the streets for almost three weeks, she might.
Create the same emotionally charged, lawless situation anywhere in the world and I doubt you would be comfortable with your hot wife or daughter wondering around in the mob drawing attention to herself.
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