Garmont Delirium

[Jethro]

The Radium has obviously been such a good seller for them they haven't had to change the color, so why wouldn't they just make a stiffer one

The Shogun is the stiffer model of the Radium, also with tech fittings. I was curious about the shogun when It first came out, but it did not have tech fittings, so I went with a used pair of Factors. Garmonts fit me better though.

[stuckathuntermtn]

Really? I thought it was just PU instead of pebax. I guess that means it gets a little stiffer in the cold?

[Jethro]

That is it. The boots are from the same moulds, but the PU makes the Shogun stiffer. Te first season it was out it did not have Tech fittings so I purchased the Axon instead.

[Arno]

the shogun is a great boot which has for some reason been overlooked by the TGR AT cognoscenti

[Woodtang]

I ski the Radiums and the Shamans. Both are great boots. Garmont really seems to have found a great neutral cant angle for all their boots. The reason why I am looking for this boot is to bridge the gap. The shaman skis great but has an old nordica style hinge mechanism and a toe box the is so small that your toes freeze in even moderate temps. Coldest boots I have ever owned. The Radiums are perfect backcountry boots but are just not quite their in the power precision aspect on hairy mountains. Then here comes the Delirium looks like the cold toes on the shaman was addressed with the wider toe box and the precision power is being addressed through a burlier shell. I am getting these this week and look forward to posting some more info on them. On paper they look like the perfect boot for me. I mostly sled ski big mountains in AK and am 6'1 200lbs. Walk mode, burly, high cuff, and warm with interchangeable soles. Sled skiers boot. That is what I want from these. To be continued....

[iscariot]

^^^ I have skied Lange all my life. My foot has basically grown into that shape. The Garmont Radiums are my AT boots and fit me very well.

That said, I was also looking for something burlier in an overlap AT boot, so I tried on the Delerium. If the Radiums fit me like a slipper, the Deleriums fit me like a bread box. Everything in that shell felt square and boxy; not only the toe box, but the ankle, instep, and cuff. Granted, this was in store, and with the stock liner, but they just weren't for me. Definitely felt heavier than the Radiums. Sticking with Radiums, and trying to stiffen them up as much as possible.

[XavierD]

This boot is a complete abortion, or should have been, long ago.

Killed my perception of Garmont. Hard to believe it was shat out by the same company that produced the Radium and Shaman.
Resulted in me not even looking at the Cosmos

[thin cover]

This boot is a complete abortion, or should have been, long ago.

Killed my perception of Garmont. Hard to believe it was shat out by the same company that produced the Radium and Shaman.
Resulted in me not even looking at the Cosmos

eh, its all about perception. I have the maestrale RS as my touring boot. At first the heavy comments and lack of being a true AT boot steered me away.Then I saw 106last and their pedigree being the doberman, so I bought them. They are the stiffest and roomiest boots with a hike function that I have seen. I did a lot of research. If you have huge feet like mine, want a resort oriented boot and need a walk mode for hiking off the lift, this was perfect for me. Great sole, stiff as hell, and I can beat on this plastic in dukes etc. At my size the maestrale plastic would last 30 days riding them in dukes. I already have rolled my old mobes out of my dukes due to the light plastics. I feel like they are stiffer than my mobes were and cochises. That said they are nothing like my maestrale RS's which are a far superior AT boot. But I am not using these for touring.

[XavierD]

I found them to have no instep room (opposite of radium/shaman), an awkward and way too tight calf range, a walk mode that sucked compared to the Cochise, Quest, or XT; and an uninspiring flex pattern which I thought would drive a ski about as well as another abortion known as the BD factor (but some people love that, and claim it is stiff). Much more to being a good ski boot than being stiff.

[thin cover]

I found them to have no instep room (opposite of radium/shaman), an awkward and way too tight calf range, a walk mode that sucked compared to the Cochise, Quest, or XT; and an uninspiring flex pattern which I thought would drive a ski about as well as another abortion known as the BD factor (but some people love that, and claim it is stiff). Much more to being a good ski boot than being stiff.

I agree, that the calfs are tight. But I just keep them loser. At 6"5" 250lbs, stiff matters to me regardless of flex pattern. I wanted a race like stiffness with a walk mode and burly plastics. Some people look for that, but not in an AT boot. For my purposes I could not imagine a better boot. I have been in AT boots only for 6 seasons now since I tour the majority of my ski days. And came to the realization that you need two pair, especially with the way these lighter plastics are getting chewed up. I ski dynafit for touring, and dukes for inbounds. I needed something that would stand up to the inbounds abuse.

This review made me pull the trigger
http://backcountryskiingcanada.com/i...ouring%20Boots

[Woodtang]

Got these boots last week. Like I said before I have the Radiums, Shamans, and now these. The last does not seem to be crazy wide. I am not sure where they are measuring the 103 number, but my buddy has the Cochise in the same size and they seemed like wide boats in the last at 100. I put an intuition liner in them and it really solved the tightness on the calfs. I could barely get the first buckle on the upper cuff with the stock liner. I also put a custom footbed in them and the volume feels great for all day adventures without having to punch them out. To me they feel exactly what I believe they were trying to achieve, the Shaman and Radium having a baby that ate well. Probably not a long tour slipper, but it is going to be a sled ski dream, heli ripper, or an après ski drinking shoe. Garmont has great ideas in their boots and I feel that their cant angles allow for very neutral turn transitions. Get them if you are looking between boots like the Cochise, Xt, or hybrid style boot. If you are going to be mostly touring, but want more downhill power, get the Radium and put an intuition power wrap in it. The soft tongues in the touring liners are the major culprit in their powerless ski mode. If you want to charge all over and want one boot these are tops in my list.

Sincerely,
The Mechanic