Telemark skiing is dead.

[telefreewasatch]

I'm with a couple of the others here. I took up tele 20 years ago or so. Loved the challenge of mastering it. Now I've mastered the P-turn on tele gear. I like both turns, but mostly P-turn because it's easier and I'm old. When I want to feel the tele turn, I tele turn. When I need to skin, I'm ready to skin. For me, there's no point in buying fixed gear. I'd just lose the ability to tele turn.

Not sure why telemarking gets so much crap. It's fun. I thought that's what it's all about. The "no one cares that you tele" thing is dumb. Nothing indicates you care more than repeatedly posting in tele threads that you don't.

^
Best post. Seriously. Been saving this:
"Drop a knee, suck a dick." telefree and all...
Get to say it on account of well said, GiBo.

[bodywhomper]

As part of your reward for a long life, you will get to the point where, halfway thru a challenging pitch, your brain sez “initiate turn” and your quads say “fuck you”.

I quit when I moved back to Missoula and was skiing full time at Snowbowl again, where basically all the runs are 2600 vertical and usually with a punishing, moguled run-out. That was fine when I was in my 20s but by the time I was in my 30s it just seemed preposterous.

So far, “weak” is the answer!?

[yeahman]

Tele never caused neuroma for me, that came from climbing shoes and too tight alpine boots. It was so bad last year I could not put any weight at all on my left foot. Seriously depressing. But rod's advice in the foot thread fixed it for me: punched my shells, threw away $500 of hiking boots and shoes and replaced them with xtra wide, used toe separators every evening when watching tv, used toe socks (weird looking but they work), meta pads, and a few other things. All mechanical fixes, and after a few months the pain disappeared. Neuroma is a nasty painful bitch, I thought I was going to need surgery. I can sure see how driving a tele turn would irritate it, but too tight footwear is what causes it.

[frorider]

^ thx for the info, will pass on to someone I ski with who has neuroma...alpine or tele.

[wickstad]

^
Best post. Seriously. Been saving this:
"Drop a knee, suck a dick." telefree and all...
Get to say it on account of well said, GiBo.

I guess I’m with these guys. It was keithermadness and I think he changed his handle to Keagan on ttips after the crash who was all about his bishops and how they “p-turned”. I didn’t really get it until I mounted my hammerheads boot center on my Lhasas. Now I “p-turn” most of the time.
Wow..I lost my train of thought here but somehow I went looking for this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLv7Wabrq-Q for relevancy.

[wickstad]

I once asked Warren Miller if he could tele. He said, “.....you know...for years and years skiers have been discovering blah blah blah.....” I tuned him out. I asked Plake if he could tele and he said,...”I can tele with the best of them”...

[wickstad]

Actually I think I asked Warren Miller what he thought of tele.

[PB]

Actually, I think that half-a-binding, half-a-brain thing is talking.

Been free heel for 35 years . ~25 was oblivious to the hilarity, then finally good enough to smoke steep powder just as age started to take it's toll. Tried to switch back to fixed heel, shins said, "ARE YOU FUCKING CRAZY?!?!? Committed to groomer carving and entered a higher Nirvana.

I'm perfectly happy with tele being mostly under the radar. Can it improve? Always. Does it need to? Not so sure.

[wickstad]

Mitch made this a t-tips cover. Rip dude.

[wickstad]

Parallel turns are great as well.

[yeahman]

^^Nice pics

[senior researcher]

More Kasha!

[mfcf13]

That said, telemarking is like driving an old clapped out rear wheel drive jalopy. Alpine skiing is like driving a super charged four wheel drive dune buggy.


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Wrong analogy.

Tele is fun, playful and bouncy. Like your mom.
Alpine is locked, rigid and tight. Like a repressed suburban woman.

Both can be great, but I am going to go with fun, playful and bouncy 9 times out of 10.

[Danno]

I like both turns, but mostly P-turn because it's easier and I'm old. When I want to feel the tele turn, I tele turn. When I need to skin, I'm ready to skin. For me, there's no point in buying fixed gear. I'd just lose the ability to tele turn.

Not sure why telemarking gets so much crap. It's fun. I thought that's what it's all about. The "no one cares that you tele" thing is dumb. Nothing indicates you care more than repeatedly posting in tele threads that you don't.

The first paragraph I agree with 100%, that's exactly me.

The second paragraph, well, it gets crap because it's funny? And because tele skiers are like raft guides, ski patrollers, vegans, etc. And because tele skiers are slower, relatively speaking. One reason I make alpine turns so much is because I'm much faster making alpine turns and that's needed to keep up with my friends.

[~mikey b]

I’m currently writing an article for the 3rd issue of The Telemark Journal

[MakersTeleMark]

Mitch made this a t-tips cover. Rip dude.

Don't know if you caught Dostie's latest Youtube about reviving telemarkskiermag.com, but he told a great Mitch story. I was just choking up a bit of the stoke that him and Big Tim used to post. I posted at least 10k over there before I fully migrated here. I was there way way way back from the usenet migration days.



https://mountaingazette.com/blogs/mo...e-love-boulder

What a great soul of stoke. We really had a deep community going on back then. I think I was the one that told Danno that I was jumping ship. Anywho, I still check in on BCT every once in awhile to see who is still doing the silly.

Old skool massive tele stoke dump:

































And that last guy only has one leg, so he's 1/4 marking. I don't think JKON does that anymore (he's wicked smat).

Good times, the stoke was always so so "high" and "low".

Signing off:



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PM RonTELE:





I miss every single one of these fuckers more than you can possibly imagine.

* 1. Cesare and I on looking over the horizon at my mid on our 2nd and successful attempt at a 1st decent in the Gore; Took 4 years to get that line on Rain.
2. That sign means not what I thought it did. It means that you are going to mach loonie into a rope tow at neck height;
3. Some random untracked lapped sidecountry down in S.A.; Yes, that is a Melanzana from 2003. So cool, right, 18 year old melly, what can I sell it for?
4. Pilqui, very crowded; Endless;
5. Some more random big peak down south;
6. Endless again, fuck you Epikon; Thank you Seth Morrison for allowing us tele bitches to ski real skis.
7. Boots off after a long day of 1st’s. Mag here rented us his cabin outside of bariloche which had a nice solid stash for the woodstove;
8. 20 miles up to a villager’s farm after I spied a line for another 1st; Long skis truck, go sox;
9. 14” and nuking on our approach to Mt. Audubon’s Crooked Coulie with some old Boulder friends; That was a whiteout over the head sick decent. I call this the abby road shot of tele skiing, we had no idea the pow, winds, and whiteout that we faced from the skin from the Brainard gate, and no one even dared back then to cut a track and ski that gut line except for this super strong crew.
10. Dobish, being dobish when he could tele, pre-ntn;
11. Bondo, say no more. I love this man so much;
12. Jay runs the largest buffalo processing plant in the western states, you see why. Surf that bra;
13. Charlie on another attempt with me in the Gore;
14. “Telemarking is Stupid”, clearly visible on his left ski;
15. Nate launching the privy gap from off the roof up at Eiseman way way back. I can’t believe I crouched and got this shot of him over me.
16. Pegleg, fronside trees in full pow.
17. Drunk as fuck laps after an early corn harvest in way way back landia on Asolo’s and Europa’s after mucho closing down the land.
18. Snowbeard on his own mental journey doing an insane skin up Green off of Independence pass. I did not rotate the camera, he just likes to do those things;
19. And he likes to go way low to maybe get a splash of corn on his beard;
20. Danno, chuggin not powerbars below Mace Peak I believe.
21. PM him;
22. PM point from the man again on a linkup from Green to Blue. What a day that was, all the way to the valley floor. Solid vert right there, and very good turns through and through.

[~mikey b]

fkna

[wickstad]

Fun stuff MTM. I didn’t post often but I checked in every day for more than ten years.

[wickstad]

Looks like you logged in here just after the ttips crash.

[Danno]

Privy gap was at Green Wilson, not Eiseman, but excellent stoke, A+++, will view again!

[RootSkier]

Even Mrs. Rootskier used to tele. Here she is on 1/1/09, still the best day I've ever had at a ski area, where, in the midst of a just perfect storm cycle, the wind did a FULL reset of the entire mountain and there were approximately 250 people there, because they only reported 3-4", and because everyone was hungover.

[~mikey b]

if anyone else is interested in contributing an article to a future volume of The Telemark Journal let me know and I’ll point you in the right direction

https://www.lulu.com/en/us/shop/luca...e=1&pageSize=4



https://www.telemarkskier.com/the-telemark-journal-0/

[Meathelmet]

Fkna! Good stoke there MTM!

Got so inspired that I am going to dig out my NTN+Stöckli Y for the first outing of the season...

[Laps]

My wife and I headed to Jackson back in 02, when she was my gf. We went to ski the pass and she didn’t have touring gear so she rented some tele stuff and was making tele turns by the end of the day. That was the day I knew she was the one.

She quit tele 8-10 years ago, but I will never stop, barring full knee replacement.


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[XXX-er]

at 14 I got junior some big honking leather tele boots with buckles, taught him to tele in 3 runs

I said ok do the lead change and leave yer right foot forward all the way to the T, next run lead change the other side now leave yer left foot forward like that to the T, Ok now link em togetehr so do that lead change every turn ... now yer telemarking

and then we just went skiing, he was catching air on day 3