Telemark skiing is dead.

[wickstad]

[Phall]

I bought a set of Freedom's this fall thinking id mount them up, but, now im thinking Ill sell em. three bindings, one for parts, two functional, size large, what might they be worth to the masses? $100+ship?

[wickstad]

got another one

[jmedslc]

full rocker tele train hell yeah!

I resemble that remark! The Renegades serve up a pretty epic 3D pow experience. Effortless, confident, super hero skis. They should come with a cape!

[wickstad]

[wickstad]

. One more.

[wickstad]

. These guys?

[wickstad]

[MagnificentUnicorn]

got another one

Some great days there buddy, seems like yesterday


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[shank]

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Got some tele paraphernalia to get back into it after a nearly 10 year hiatus. Spent a lot of time deciding what skis to use, and ended up buying 177 full-rocker Mantras from a guy in Fernie. They were my east-coast DD for a few years and I'm hoping that familiarity translates over. We shall see

I’m on the 177 rocker mantras too and the one thing I’ll say is that it’s really easy to over rotate turns on hard pack. Every year I take them out early season and feel like a total idiot trying to keep the tails from scrubbing out. Then I get them out in some fresh cream cheese and I remember why I love em. Give yourself a couple 3D snow days before you decide to bin them and find something with camber.

[McShortyShorts]

Thanks for the beta, I'm excited to mount these up and try them next week. Last time I tele'd was on straight skis and those bindings with just the cable looped around the boot in the back... I'm sure the T1/vice setup will be a massive upgrade

[bodywhomper]

I’m on the 177 rocker mantras too and the one thing I’ll say is that it’s really easy to over rotate turns on hard pack. Every year I take them out early season and feel like a total idiot trying to keep the tails from scrubbing out. Then I get them out in some fresh cream cheese and I remember why I love em. Give yourself a couple 3D snow days before you decide to bin them and find something with camber.

my experience with the tail washout-issue on hard pack for myself and friends is a technique adjustment: cheeks tight (aka "push the bush"); counter rotation with shoulders, "headlights," and hands downhill; that slight pinch feeling at the downhill waist/hip; counterbalance with upper body upright/leaning down the hill; and weight centered between the skis. The biggest issue seems to be too much weight on the downhill ski (even leaning the center of balance over the ski) and not enough weight on the uphill/trailing ski. sometimes, if I am feeling off when lift riding, a few monomark turns on a groomer will set me straight and get my body to remember the correct body position.

[raisingarizona13]

The Coleman factor? Cool about the Utes. What triggered the resurgence & interest?

I don't really know. It could be kids simply trying to stand out among the crowd? A sort of fun and healthy bit of rebellion? Boredom? F if I know.......

[shank]

my experience with the tail washout-issue on hard pack for myself and friends is a technique adjustment

Can’t adjust technique if ya don’t have any to start!

[bodywhomper]

Can’t adjust technique if ya don’t have any to start!

lol
push the bush!!

i once helped out a famous ski designer friend (/humble brag) with the spin out problem. he learned to tele in montana powder at nols. his first experience making tele turns on hardpack was painful (to both hips).

[JohnF]

Has anyone used these boots...
https://www.baffin.com/en-us/product...oaAo1eEALw_wcB

Wondering how they'd be for Tele.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Has anyone used these boots...
https://www.baffin.com/en-us/product...oaAo1eEALw_wcB

Wondering how they'd be for Tele.

I doubt they would offer much if any support for downhill turning. Those are for shuffling across the tundra and sea ice


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[bodywhomper]

Starting to feel like an open book regarding new ski selection.

My daily drivers are full camber mantras, which are a bit long for me. When I’m skiing steep 2d snow, I’m not able to get the ski to bend as much as I’d like making tele turns.

…. but am now thinking about a replacement for the mantras with something more modern and similar-ish width to the mantras….

I’m starting to come around to the idea that maybe I should be thinking/getting new mantras at a more appropriate length. My older full camber are 184cm. M102 or M6? At 155 lbs and making tele turns and reading discussion on this forum from heavier alpine skiers about mantra length and reading the blister reviews, looks like I might want to consider 170cm. That’s short but maybe(?) realistic.

Thoughts and feelings?

[teledance]

Tele festival at Pebble Creek in SE Idaho on 3/11/23, fun event and there is some great skiing to be had, FYI.

[McShortyShorts]

All mounted up and ready for some fun "bush pushing" this weekend.

[fomofo]

This Saturday, March 4th, is the 9th annual World Telemark Day™. Whether this is your first WTD or you have celebrated every single year, today's podcast is your personal guide to walk you through it and help you have fun!

https://freeheellife.libsyn.com/170-...emark-day-2023

[jmedslc]

Tele festival at Pebble Creek in SE Idaho on 3/11/23, fun event and there is some great skiing to be had, FYI.

Hmmm depending on weather i might be down w this. topher mentioned this place is pretty sweet.

[jmedslc]

I’m starting to come around to the idea that maybe I should be thinking/getting new mantras at a more appropriate length. My older full camber are 184cm. M102 or M6? At 155 lbs and making tele turns and reading discussion on this forum from heavier alpine skiers about mantra length and reading the blister reviews, looks like I might want to consider 170cm. That’s short but maybe(?) realistic.

Thoughts and feelings?

ok the newer mantras have a much different shape than an older trad camber ski. I would caution going that short with that much rocker. my thought is to ski them first.

my experience that i draw from here is my 4frnt renegades are 186 and NEVER seem too long. None of my other skis are 186 because in a traditional shape, that length would be too long for tele. But with a rocker-flat-rocker ski, the longer length is manageable and desirable when dropping the knee. cheers

[bodywhomper]

Well I got some m102 170’s rolling in next week, I hope. I’ll report back. If too short, I’ll be selling.

Reading our current tgr volkl thread and the blister review, many locked heel skiers that are heavier than me seem to think that 177 is right (or would) be right for them for the m102. I’m sure 170 will be very nimble and easy to flex in a tele turn on steep hard snow. It’ll be interesting to see where the speed limit sits on something so short. I’m currently feeling optimistic. My 184 bibby’s feel great to me and I’ve never felt that they were the wrong length.

[yeahman]

They call him Telemark Tom