Telemark skiing is dead.

[timackie]

I don't know if freeheel would work for a one legged ?

EJ rocked the one legged telemark. But he was a beast of a man and had a cutting edge e knee prosthetic

[jmedslc]

New skis and bindings day!

Nice.
So how did the M Free and outlaws ski???

[AlpiNord]

This has been hanging in my office since the 90’s:







(Notice the headband, Boulderites)

This also reminded me of the Neptune Mountaineering t-shirts that came out around then showing a couple at a ski area, aghast at a telemarkers:

“Why can’t they just stay in the woods!”


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[dschane]

Those are some classics.

When sweat mixes with some sunscreen and irritates my eyes, I wish headbands would make a comeback. I guess I'm too vain to start the trend.

[Meadow Skipper]

If you call yourself a free heeler and haven't done this at least once, you're a dilettante.

Heh. Rainey Superloops, G3 Targas, Rotte Freerides and Freedoms. Maybe more that I’m blocking.

[Danno]

Nice.
So how did the M Free and outlaws ski???

Still evaluating. I think I will really like the MFrees, seeing as how it was kinda crusty and there was only patches of soft snow and they skied just fine. I think they are going to kill it in soft snow.

The outlaws were on the factory setting, around 3? It felt a little too stiff, so I found myself mostly making alpine turns (plus I was skiing trees and bumps, because Mary Jane, and I usually make a lot of alpine turns in that anyway). I have dialed it back to 1 for my next try.

Step in and getting out was a little finicky, but not terrible. I think I'm going to like the whole set up, a lot, but final verdict isn;t in yet.

[jmedslc]

Still evaluating. I think I will really like the MFrees, seeing as how it was kinda crusty and there was only patches of soft snow and they skied just fine. I think they are going to kill it in soft snow.

The outlaws were on the factory setting, around 3? It felt a little too stiff, so I found myself mostly making alpine turns (plus I was skiing trees and bumps, because Mary Jane, and I usually make a lot of alpine turns in that anyway). I have dialed it back to 1 for my next try.

Step in and getting out was a little finicky, but not terrible. I think I'm going to like the whole set up, a lot, but final verdict isn;t in yet.

Someone posted above about applying lubricant to the spring. That’s prolly something that could make a difference for getting in/out w the brakes. The clunky getting in and out was my primary complain about the brakes and I just took them off. Of course I was not aware of the need to lubricate and will revisit that here in a bit.

I do note that my daily driver skis have loosened up significantly when depressing the tab yo exit, while powder skis and the skinny skis are still pretty difficult to exit the binding.

[AlpiNord]

Heh. Rainey Superloops, G3 Targas, Rotte Freerides and Freedoms. Maybe more that I’m blocking.

Z-Comps and cheating death with 3-pins only for the true free heel experience…..you active cable pussies.[emoji16]


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[dschane]

Still evaluating. I think I will really like the MFrees, seeing as how it was kinda crusty and there was only patches of soft snow and they skied just fine. I think they are going to kill it in soft snow.

The outlaws were on the factory setting, around 3? It felt a little too stiff, so I found myself mostly making alpine turns (plus I was skiing trees and bumps, because Mary Jane, and I usually make a lot of alpine turns in that anyway). I have dialed it back to 1 for my next try.

Step in and getting out was a little finicky, but not terrible. I think I'm going to like the whole set up, a lot, but final verdict isn;t in yet.

I am on setting one with the stiffy springs. Changing the preload on the spring really affects how much range you have -- at 5, you hit a wall of resistance pretty early. If you find the double yellow springs too stiff, I would (a) give it 5 outings and (b) if it's still too stiff, you can remove the inner yellow springs and just use the outer yellow spring, but you need to spend five minutes to reverse a screw too. This vid on installing the stiffy springs explains the process.

I would also lube the slide wires a few times each year. If nothing else, it reduces the squeak. I have heard getting in with brakes can be tricky. But some claim it can be dialed in.

[Meadow Skipper]

Z-Comps and cheating death with 3-pins only for the true free heel experience…..you active cable pussies.[emoji16]

I had to go out to the garage and take this in an (possibly vain) attempt to retain my tele cred.

[AlpiNord]

I had to go out to the garage and take this in an (possibly vain) attempt to retain my tele cred.

Approved!

I felt ancient when I saw my ole 210 Randonees mounted on the wall of the Last Dollar this past spring:



After getting myself into many uncomfortable positions on those, I took the 3 pins and put them on a pair of Dynastar Omeglass IIs for a life changing move. I did not know anyone else at the time doing that sort of thing. That was my resort and BC rig.


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[jhyatt]

Someone posted above about applying lubricant to the spring. That’s prolly something that could make a difference for getting in/out w the brakes. The clunky getting in and out was my primary complain about the brakes and I just took them off. Of course I was not aware of the need to lubricate and will revisit that here in a bit.

I do note that my daily driver skis have loosened up significantly when depressing the tab yo exit, while powder skis and the skinny skis are still pretty difficult to exit the binding.

I sprayed silicone spray on my outlaws and they are smoother. It was the generic spray that was on the shelf in the locker room.
Thanks for the tip.

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[sb]

I had those Riva Z binders but mine had the exposed springs and super loops with the rubber hose.

Heal a free mind.


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[jmedslc]

Figured I’d post one of my fav telemark ski tips

[kinkilla]

Success on the TX-strale frankenboots. All that is missing is a bushing for one of the pivot points on each boot. Gonna take em for a spin this weekend in the meantime to see if I messed up a good thing

[Toddball]

Is this the sub-2kg boot thread?

[kinkilla]

Is this the sub-2kg boot thread?

How do you like those GFTs? Was just looking at them myself to improve all my boots performance

[Toddball]

How do you like those GFTs? Was just looking at them myself to improve all my boots performance

Just got them last night, but initial impressions are good. Definitely better heel hold than the the Scarpa-branded Intuitions I had before, which I had added an ankle wrap to. Easy to mold in an oven. Downsides: almost double the weight of Intuitions (226g in 26 vs 469g in 25.5), and stepping into the boots with the liners on your feet (the recommended method, apparently) is pretty difficult.

Will update after nightskiing tonight and hopefully one or two tours this weekend.

[Mile]

I’ll add my review of the zipfit GFTs with regards to tele in some crispi evo wc boots (stock crispi liners were unusably bad). I have about 50 days in them and would generally recommend with price/weight caveats. They really lock your heel in and nicely hug your feet in a way even well-fitting intuitions can not, which helps drive big skis. Lots of toe room, good flex and rom for tele turns. A bit annoying to put on and take off but not really a big deal, bring a camping chair/tripod for the parking lot locker room. Might put some more cork in soon as they are fairly low volume out of the box even though i have fat wide feet. The weight is sorta tough, can definitely feel the extra half pound per foot, but have been using these as inbounds and sidecountry booting only. Still using clapped tx pros with intuitons and broken buckles for longer tours, would love to frankenboot these. Overall - “so choice, if you have the means, i highly recommend picking (them) up”

[406]

anyone have a link to a good youtube video showing ideal way to tune edges on tele skis? I have never bothered tuning, but find myself skiing more firm conditions these days. I have this thing:

[~mikey b]

it’s not any different

https://youtu.be/Wi4N4duxwgk

[AlpiNord]

anyone have a link to a good youtube video showing ideal way to tune edges on tele skis? I have never bothered tuning, but find myself skiing more firm conditions these days. I have this thing:

I can't resist from Alpinord Jr years ago:



Tele skis are different than alpine or snowboards in that you are trying to pressure two skis at once with 50/50 weight distribution which reduces the pressure bending each ski and while carving. I haven't checked lately, but they are are were generally softer than their alpine counterparts. For firmer snows, I definitely benefited by using a grippy 3, or even grippier, 4 degree side edge angle.

[andy m]

Yea, but is that a tele ski? ;-)

[AlpiNord]

Yea, but is that a tele ski? ;-)

Kids alpine skis = tele skis.

[bodywhomper]

I have a 3* side bevel on my groomer zoomers. Very helpful. My others are all 1*, but considering 3* for all. Not sure what the downside is for increasing to 3*. If you’re gonna geek out, flat bases are essential for setting and maintaining correct bevel. Alpinord’s base structure tool is great at maintaining flat bases.