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    Quote Originally Posted by marshalolson View Post
    i just recieved an email from plum that their brakes are further delayed. they are stating jan/feb at this point.

    my personal plan is that i will not see them this winter, maybe spring.

    it also now sound like the brake will require a new base-plate and is sort of a PITA to install.
    this is what I was told also. But they have some other cool stuff in the works. Hope to see it this season

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan S. View Post
    If that wrench you have in there is really 4mm, and you can't go forward any more (remember that the worm drive goes in the opposition direction of the Comfort/Vertical and probably also Radical), then that is a shocking error from a shop that otherwise seems to have an excellent reputation.
    Another option is to see if they will swap you heel units for the new Speed Radical, which has a much longer fore/aft adjustment range that can accommodate their apparent mistake. (The Speed Radical toe units though would require redrilling.) A swap with the Vertical ST would of course also work, although add about six ounces per pair. And of course a Plum Guide swap would be sweet, but also rather pricey for them, although then again, it's their mistake to fix.
    you can tell from the picture that it is pretty much as far forward as it goes. And the wrench is the 4mm wrench that comes with the Guide (just measured to make sure.. pretty much bang on 4mm). So it is in-fact Escape Route's mess up. I'll have to see what they say.. Guide's would be sweet, but I expect them to say that they will just re-mount these... which is not the ideal case, as it means the heel unit will have to come at least 1 cm forward, not allowing me to switch to boots significantly larger than my current BSL.

    For Plum.. I still don't get how the refining works exactly, as I feel the screw would ideally want to sit into one of the rivets.. but maybe that's why I can't grasp it, as it probably doesn't have to sit in a rivet as long as you tighten it enough?

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    Yes, now I see that the worm drive is visible at the very bottom of the picture. Maybe they used the wrong boot? Or forgot to reset the jig?

    For Plum fore/aft, I can see how the pictures might lead you to think that, but based on my experience, and also inspecting the bindings just now, the hold-down screw is not affected by the slight sculpting in the track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinecure View Post
    I had a feeling this was going to be the case. Either way, I'm glad I used Binding Freedom inserts to mount mine. I've already removed them once to send back to Plum for new toe levers. Now I won't have any problems if I want to remove them to mount brakes (although I'm leaning toward just sticking with BnD leashes).

    I don't really miss the brakes on a touring ski. Then again, I haven't yet been whacked in the head by a leashed ski on a wipe-out. I don't miss those days from my youth.
    Is this a good idea? Or screw it and just pull the Plum's off, install bindings and remount?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshalolson View Post
    i just recieved an email from plum that their brakes are further delayed. they are stating jan/feb at this point.

    my personal plan is that i will not see them this winter, maybe spring.

    it also now sound like the brake will require a new base-plate and is sort of a PITA to install.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dynamike View Post
    Is this a good idea? Or screw it and just pull the Plum's off, install bindings and remount?
    I don't understand your question? Are you asking should you install inserts? If you've already drilled, and you're taking the bindings off, you can then install the inserts into those holes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinecure View Post
    I don't understand your question? Are you asking should you install inserts? If you've already drilled, and you're taking the bindings off, you can then install the inserts into those holes.
    Bindings should arrive anyday. Just curious about the best course of action before I mount. So the question is, install inserts or no?

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    I say yes to inserts. Cheaper than two sets of bindings.
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    Just heard from a highly reliable source that there will be no brake offered. Can anyone else confirm this?

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    Someone posted this on Wildsnow in the comments section of the Plum binding review.

    Jack November 9th, 2011 9:18 am
    While talking* by phone to Felisaz, I was informed Alexis left the company about one month ago. No further details were given.

    *it helps to speak French ;-)


    Hope everything is okay.

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    I just got an email from Felisaz, the Plums will have a new ski cramp attachement for next season, presumably with the new brake compatible toe piece.

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    Just received an email from L'Equipe PLUM

    "Hello, the brakes will be available next season, the issue is that it won't be compatible with the current bindings."

    Umm, boo.

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    Not that I've yet to need the use of brakes while touring (watch that change this year) but certainly a little pissed about this given that they were saying that the brakes were coming. Nice bindings but not impressed. And fuck those leashes!

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    use the BD leashes, night and day difference. I have never felt the need for brakes, but of course would be nice.

    They are coming out with an iteration for 110mm waisted skis and above, it is being tested now. I am very interested in seeing these.

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    /\/\ Any idea if the hole pattern will change on those?

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    When I emailed Plum the link to my Duke pattern adapter thread, they said they would be working on a wide ski interface that would probably be using the same drill pattern as the Duke.

    Don't know if that means an adapter or new baseplates for toe and heel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumb Swede View Post
    Just received an email from L'Equipe PLUM

    "Hello, the brakes will be available next season, the issue is that it won't be compatible with the current bindings."

    Umm, boo.
    Consider me first in line to buy a pair of lightly used, first-generation Plums

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    Quote Originally Posted by bern43 View Post
    /\/\ Any idea if the hole pattern will change on those?
    what 1000oaks said is what I heard. I know some of the heel bases that were sold this year had a 5th screw in front of the plate, but it did not get any purchase in the ski, when I asked what that was for they said it was for a forthcoming adapter add on for wider skis. So maybe the current iteration will have some sort of stabilizing plate under the heel, just spit balling here. I also know some people who did not get the 5th screw in their heels on their orders this year, retail people and distributors alike. I got mine right from Plum with the 5th screw, but the ones I bought last year had no 5th screw. so not sure why there are two different ones.
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    Question: I have the Guides and when I flip the toe piece up into ski mode (its not mounted to the ski yet) there is a portion of the binding which sticks out below the baseplate (the part that pivots down to allow engagement). Is this normal? With the toepiece mounted on the ski when I step into it will there be sufficient engagement? I.E. the center piece will not be able to pivot down below the baseplate and may potentially hinder penetration into the boot.
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    Hey, Not to seem to JONGish here but why can a dynafit after market brake be modified like on the dynafits below.

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    It might take some grinding and some metal work but what is stopping us from waching this on some PLUMS the idea of have a brake under my toe is just not appealing as is being sugested PLUM wants to do with their new models. I do not have a pair of plums yet but am ordering some in the next couple weeks and cant see what is stopping me from pulling them apart getting some wider brakes from sal pilaging an aftermarket brake from dynafit and trying to get it all to work in a complete package.... What am I missing here??

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    Quote Originally Posted by sqikunst View Post
    What am I missing here??
    Nothing. Anything's possible... If I wasn't up to my neck in work right now I'd be working on a template design for them... Hoping I can free up some time in the next month or so but no, you're not missing anything, it's entirely possible.
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    not enough nun fisters in that community

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    Aight then.... I will get on it next week and document (pics/what not) it so that if I get something that works other mags want to try the same sort of deal. Got a Dyna set laying around and some 110mm and 130mm brakes just need to splurge on some PLUM's. Wish me luck!!

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    brakes

    I have a new set plums sitting in the box. Already to send them back to Plum after hearing they're changing their drill pattern and making a brake--one that's not compatible with this year's.

    Cool binders but already obsolete if they don't support this generation for further add-ons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by univurshul View Post
    Cool binders but already obsolete
    Should be fine for those who don't plan on using brakes . . .

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