Icelantic Keeper Mounting Point

[TC]

I know its a really new ski, but with all the snow thats fallen in the last 30+ days, I figure someone may have taken their new Keepers out. Does anyone have suggestions on a mounting point for a pair of 189s (5'10, 165lbs, 301bsl)? Icelantic Rep was saying the BC line, but that looks really far back.

[adrenalated]

The BC line is the recommended boot center line. Definitely do not mount forward of this. I might even consider 1cm back.

[Alexander1310]

I'd recommend the BC line, but with your foot size you could get away with -1 cm (back) as adrenalated said. Just remember with a ski with that much eearly rise in the tail, going further back on the mount point will put your weight back onto these soft tails, which might cause more washing out on turns and cliff drops. I have mine mounted right at BC line (albeit telemark) but I can adjust my binding forward and back 1.5 cm and I think that the BC line mount is pretty much spot on.

[TC]

Thanks for your input. It sounds like this ski needs to be mounted more like the S7 than the Hellbent or Obsethed, which I have been riding for the past two years. I just assumed with everyone moving thier mounting points forward, the sweet spot on the Keeper would be somewhere between the BC and CC line.

[whyturn]

CC is chord center for freeheelers. BC line is usually money for alpine or AT. keep in mind rocker and icelantic tends to mount back, more traditional mount.

[Grandyoso]

So I want to mount a pair of Freerides/Axl combo with the QKson ome 189 Keepers. Looking at them today if I were to move the mounting point on the FR -1cm and move the pinline +1cm. The reason for the + 1cm becaue of hole location. It look like ome people have said (adrenalated)the protos should have a shorter tail when Teleda so should I see if I can move leave the FR on BC and leave the pinline where it is. I have 29 pushs and a scarpa AT with a 321 bsl. Any suggestions?

[DropCliffsNotBombs]

BC line is usually money for alpine or AT. keep in mind rocker and icelantic tends to mount back, more traditional mount.

^^^ +1 ^^^

[angrysasquatch]

I'm trying to mount my bindings, but have an issue with existing holes when using the BC line. I can go -1.5 cm or +1.2 cm to clear the old holes. I was pretty set on mounting on the line before, but now I'm not sure what to do.

On a semi-related note, how close can I drill the new holes to the old ones without compromising the thread strength?

[BigLineSeeker]

Depends on what you are used to. I like a traditionally mounted ski and have my keepers on the BC line. If you are more into the newer jibbier ski feel you could comfortably move forward a bit as the BC line is farther back than what you traditionally see these days. If it were me I would go back the 1.5cm because I really prefer a readward mount on my skis.

[angrysasquatch]

I have always mounted on the back line except last season, I mounted 1 cm forward on Nomad SFTs. It is hard to tell which characteristics (or should I say, how it felt) are inherent with the ski itself, and which are due to the mount.

I have a pretty filled-out quiver (next smaller skis are 191 shoguns (100 underfoot), and I figured I'd take these out only for big powder days, so that's another reason to go back, rather than forward.

I am mounting Tours on the Keepers, first season touring. Will they tour better one way or the other?

[Grandyoso]

I am not sure that a couple of cms will really make a difference in the touring mode. But here are a couple thoughts, when going over steep inclines IE snow drift being forward would make it easier because your weight would be more centered and it helps you from falling backwards. although on a switchback more tail could be a pain in the ass becuase you have to clear the other ski in order to swithch directions.
I would go with the rear mount as opposed to the forward especially when using them for soft snow...
Just my 2 cents..

[Mudfoot]

The Keepers have a lot of sidecut, (189=18m and 178=16m), which the sharknose tips forces onto a shortened section of the ski. If you take away the 60 cm of rocker when the ski is flexed you've got a sharp sidecut on a short effective length on hard snow. I think if you start moving the boot center off the line you will get some fairly dramatic performace changes with even a small movement for real carving. In soft snow, not so much.

[angrysasquatch]

Thanks for the help, I'm gonna go back, as little as I can. I'm gonna epoxy the old holes and try out 5mm between hole circumferences (not hole centers). Should be enough meat to hold on...