Dynafit TLT 5 Boot

[Jonathan S.]

I find my 25 PDG's more roomy all around in the fore foot then my TLT5 Mtns in 25.
Had to mold the TLT's immediately but didn't feel that much of a need to mold my PDG's before use.

Interesting, thanks, but the TLT5 Mountain model uses a much different TF-X liner than the various TF liners in the TLT5 P, EVO, and PDG, so, well, lots of variables going on in that comparison.

[dacksdescents]

How bout this
I found the PDG fore foot much more roomy out of the box then a pair of TLT 5 performance in the same size.

[Jonathan S.]

How bout this
I found the PDG fore foot much more roomy out of the box then a pair of TLT 5 performance in the same size.

Same half size or same full size?
Maybe you were already taking the following into consideration, but...
The shell break is different with the EVO/PDG vs the TLT5, so the comparisons get confusing.
But using my own foot as an example:
-- I take a 287mm 26.0/26.5 TLT5 Performance. (The half-size differential is a complete fiction, as the shell is of course exactly identical, as is the liner, and the only difference is that the 26.0 throwaway footbed is slightly thicker.)
-- Were I to think that my 287mm 26.5 TLT5 means I should take a 289mm 26.5 EVO, then I would be swimming.
-- Instead I need a 279mm 25.5/26.0 EVO.
-- So focusing on the full size, I'm a 26.0 in both boots. But focusing on the half size, I've dropped down from 26.5 to 25.5, even though the interior length is something like only 2mm or so shorter.

[dacksdescents]

25 in both
TLT5 277
PDG 269
Even with the slight interior length difference I still Find the pdg more relaxed in the forefoot then the TLT5's.
And plenty of boot (even with no powerstrap on boot) to drive non race skis in the BC and on piste. Disclaimer, I wear baggy ski pants with my PDG's.

[Jonathan S.]

Huh, interesting.
So is the PDG TF liner exactly the same as the TLT5 Performance TF liner?
(The EVO TF liner is slightly pared down.)
But you really have to ditch of those baggy pants and get the Dynafit Movement pant/tights! (I'm looking forward to much ridicule from B.Y. when he sees me in them...)

[dacksdescents]

PDG and Evo liners should be the same.
I think the baggy pants work better with my 121mm under foot skis that I like to use with the PDG boots.

[retirwntm]

C'mon drew. You're rocking PDG's. you might as well put on the skin condom instead of the baggy snowboarder pants and embrace that the transformation is complete. You're a rando racer trapped in a snowboarders body. Come out of the half pipe.

[dacksdescents]

I'm on the dynafit no skin suit list (kinda like the no fly list). That and I don't think they sell extra small in the usa, because some things are bet not allowed out in public

C'mon drew. You're rocking PDG's. you might as well put on the skin condom instead of the baggy snowboarder pants and embrace that the transformation is complete. You're a rando racer trapped in a snowboarders body. Come out of the half pipe.

[ILOVE2SKI]

TLT5 does NOT work with Dukes/Fritschis/etc. The lugs are super short, it's only intended for tech fittings. Wait for the Vulcan/Mercury if you want a boot that works with frame bindings.

Is this still the case with the 2013 models? I have Fristchi Freerides on my AT setup and I have been looking for a really light boot.

[harpo-the-skier]

Is this still the case with the 2013 models? I have Fristchi Freerides on my AT setup and I have been looking for a really light boot.

I am 99% sure the 2013 TLT5 only works with tech bindings. I would ask over on wildsnow.com if the TLT6 works with frame AT bindings.

[Prodigy]

I am 99% sure the 2013 TLT5 only works with tech bindings. I would ask over on wildsnow.com if the TLT6 works with frame AT bindings.

As far as I know it won't, no word that it will conform to the touring ISO. They probably will not work with the Beast heel insert either, not sure though.

[Jonathan S.]

I am 99% sure the 2013 TLT5 only works with tech bindings.

I've used my TLT5 a couple times in some old Diamir 2 bindings. Worked fine for both the up and the down, but I probably wouldn't want to make a habit of it (although then again I wouldn't want to make a habit of skiing in Diamirs of any generation with any boots).

[ILOVE2SKI]

Gothca. What about the Mercury or Titan... anyone have opinions on these boots? Good all around touring boot? Light enough for long tours and strong enough for the steeps?

[saxon]

There's a whole thread about those boots. I bought my Mercuries to replace both my TLT5's and my alpine boots, and they've done that very well. The Mercuries most definitely do not tour as nicely as the TLT5's, but they're still awesome. I've worn my TLT5's once this season and I will again in the spring when the days get bigger; but I've never regretted taking my Mercuries out and I wouldn't cry too much if I couldn't have my TLT5's anymore and had to survive on just the Mercuries.

[harpo-the-skier]

I just got my new two position spoiler. It looks like all you have to do to install is is the knock the pin? (is that the right term for the metal bar holding in the old spoiler?) out, replace the spoiler, and knock the pin back in? What tool did you use to knock the pin out, it looks pretty narrow diameter. Any tricks to reinserting the pin? Do you need to use any epoxy or does friction hold it in? Thanks, I am a technical jong and need all the help I can get.

[harpo-the-skier]

Also regarding the spoilers, which is right and which is left? One is marked SX and the other is marked DX.

[Jonathan S.]

"It looks like all you have to do to install it is the knock the pin? (is that the right term for the metal bar holding in the old spoiler?)"
-- To my nostalgic joy this afternoon, turned out to be exactly the same pin that I knocked out years ago on my Zzero4 (when removing the metal slat to have it sliced apart, shortened, and then welded back together to reduce the lean).

"What tool did you use to knock the pin out, it looks pretty narrow diameter."
-- Just some random punch and hammer. I placed the other side of the boot on a piece of relatively soft wood, and also drilled a hole into the wood, attempting to have it line up with the other side of the pin.
-- My first attempt took ... forever. By the sixth, just a few carefully placed knocks. (Yes, three pairs: original DyNA, TLT5, EVO.)

"Any tricks to reinserting the pin?"
-- Alignment went very well. I usually needed a final couple knocks with the punch to ensure it was seated all the way.

"Do you need to use any epoxy or does friction hold it in?
-- Friction. Fit is very tight.

"Also regarding the spoilers, which is right and which is left? One is marked SX and the other is marked DX."
- DX = right. (I always remember this from my high school French, as right = droit ... yeah, okay, French, Italian, whatever, it's a Romance language. Plus take a peek inside pretty much any boot and your right boot will have various stamps with DX, and the left will have SX.)
-- However, a quick comparison didn't reveal any noticeable asymmetry, so probably doesn't matter.

[GeezerSteve]

S as in sinistra is left;

D as in destra right

[Plinko]

Does anyone know the two lean angles of the spoiler kit?

[Jonathan S.]

Does anyone know the two lean angles of the spoiler kit?

The former fixed plus a slightly more upright angle, whose differential Dynafit cites as three degrees, which seems about right.

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[Plinko]

Thanks Jonathan.

[MultiVerse]

What's the latest on the fixing TLT5p cuff rivet slop? Is there a DIY solution or is it still a machine shop / specialty boot fitter fix? Does anyone know of a place in Salt Lake City that can press the rivets?


Unfortunately, it looks like the TLT6 uses the same cuff rivet design. The TLT6 does get rid of the forefoot flex plus it has more midfoot room and I'm not sure if this has been widely reported: it also has a warmer liner and a reflective felt insert for improved insulation.

[Jonathan S.]

^ Any rivet press with sufficiently wide "cups" can get them all nice & tight again. (I've had this done 2x on my original-generation DyNA, and once on my newer TLT5.) I couldn't find a place locally, so I've just sent them back to Salewa in Boulder over the summer (or rather during the one month I don't ski each year...)
The cuff rivet design was modified for 2012-13 on both the TLT5 and Evo (although many prior-year TLT5 boots are being sold as 2013-14 stock by various etailers). Must be the same on the new TLT6. Hard to notice at first, which is probably why a certain blogger said it was unchanged.

[neufox47]

"It looks like all you have to do to install it is the knock the pin? (is that the right term for the metal bar holding in the old spoiler?)"
-- To my nostalgic joy this afternoon, turned out to be exactly the same pin that I knocked out years ago on my Zzero4 (when removing the metal slat to have it sliced apart, shortened, and then welded back together to reduce the lean).

"What tool did you use to knock the pin out, it looks pretty narrow diameter."
-- Just some random punch and hammer. I placed the other side of the boot on a piece of relatively soft wood, and also drilled a hole into the wood, attempting to have it line up with the other side of the pin.
-- My first attempt took ... forever. By the sixth, just a few carefully placed knocks. (Yes, three pairs: original DyNA, TLT5, EVO.)

"Any tricks to reinserting the pin?"
-- Alignment went very well. I usually needed a final couple knocks with the punch to ensure it was seated all the way.

"Do you need to use any epoxy or does friction hold it in?
-- Friction. Fit is very tight.

"Also regarding the spoilers, which is right and which is left? One is marked SX and the other is marked DX."
- DX = right. (I always remember this from my high school French, as right = droit ... yeah, okay, French, Italian, whatever, it's a Romance language. Plus take a peek inside pretty much any boot and your right boot will have various stamps with DX, and the left will have SX.)
-- However, a quick comparison didn't reveal any noticeable asymmetry, so probably doesn't matter.

Dynafit should pay you for being their US tech support.

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[TG]

The cuff rivet design was modified for 2012-13 on both the TLT5 and Evo (although many prior-year TLT5 boots are being sold as 2013-14 stock by various etailers). Must be the same on the new TLT6. Hard to notice at first, which is probably why a certain blogger said it was unchanged.

Can you elaborate? How was the design modified - is it going to result in less slop? Have you been able to see any differences in slop-resistance between the newer 12/13 rivets and the older ones?