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Thread: 4FRNT Renegade ~ Hand built in SLC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NWSkier View Post
    Do you find the GPOs are better skied centered like the Rens or driving the tips?
    The GPO def skis with a more centered stance unlike the Billy, which you drive the shit out of... The Billy is easy to ski, but the GPO is stupid easy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    H8u and your retardedly hudge quiver
    His 842 other skis are on teh KSLs

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    H8u and your retardedly hudge quiver
    Haha, I still don't know how I ended unloading those BGs to you. Loved those damn things. Plus you get to ski the whole damn quiver since you have a 315mm sole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchool1080s View Post
    Haha, I still don't know how I ended unloading those BGs to you. Loved those damn things. Plus you get to ski the whole damn quiver since you have a 315mm sole.
    Its cause I'm a skilled buyer and talked you into the sale. Plus I think quiver overlap is an understatement when it comes to your ski problem errrrr I mean addiction ahhhhh I mean collection. Really though its most likely your just super rad and the stoke you have provided me will come back to you 10x.

    /end thread drift\ rens are rad and all that. If os1080s let's me hop one of his sets of rens I am sure I will not be able to live without them. Which is why I must resist!!!!

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    whos got a pair local to SLC that they'd let me spin around a few days on? I need to experience the "hype" of this ski....

    BSL is 332MM....28.5 cochise.

    Hit me up with a PM if ya got's something you wouldnt mind letting me test out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skidog View Post
    whos got a pair local to SLC that they'd let me spin around a few days on? I need to experience the "hype" of this ski....

    BSL is 332MM....28.5 cochise.

    Hit me up with a PM if ya got's something you wouldnt mind letting me test out.
    Just drop by the 4FRNT office, we have demo pairs mounted with Adrenaline's. 25 bucks a day and that goes towards purchase.

    2900 S West temple. Here 9-5ish.

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    PSA-

    360$ for 186s at backc0untry.com

    http://www.backcountry.com/4frnt-ski...NDYXQ1MTAwMDA0

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    Question re: mount position... I picked up some 196's in gear swap. Mounted once at 317 at the mid recommended (92 from tail?).

    My bsl is 295, so I figure I'll go forward or back 1cm. I'm 5'9", 165 or so. Which way do I go? My 186 are 87,5-ish, and I like them there.... I figured forward made sense, but then I read something about going forwards if you're big, which might imply backwards if you aren't.

    Thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustonen View Post
    ... then I read something about going forwards if you're big, which might imply backwards if you aren't.
    Moving a mount fore or aft because of your size doesn't really make sense to me. imo, it's all about maneuverability (fore) vs. stability (aft).

    Since you ride the 186s already, and like your mount, I'd trust your own instincts on this one and not listen to anyone else who doesn't have extensive experience on both lengths. (so take my comment with a grain of salt, too.)

    I love my 186 mount and if I got a 196, for more stability and bigger lines, I'd either mount center or back to put/keep me on my shins. Forward seems like it would just overlap the quiver too much and be too pivoty for a ski whose role is stability contrasting your 186's maneuverability.

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    Fair comment.

    As much as anything, I've been wondering how the 196 would ski ever since it was announced. The 186 is almost too pivoty, and tends to buck a bit at speed in heavy crud. I'll have to measure when I get them and see where those rear holes would actually put me.

    These may or may not replace my 186 for everything but early/sketch season and/or trees, so I do want the mount to be versatile... Might just have to bite the bullet and get it as close to the middle reco as possible.
    focus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchool1080s View Post
    Ren/Zealot/Vicik/RC112/RPC112/Automatic
    186Ren/196Ren/Bibby/Wrenegade/XXL/Vicik/Tahoes


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    I can play!

    Spatulas/Kusalas/Billygoats/Wrenegades/PowPlus/Head103/Down4/skinnyshit

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    Just skied my new 186's for the first time past weekend, they're FRIGGIN' AWESOME. I demoed them last year and wasn't too impressed, but i think the mount was too much rearward. Pulled the trigger on a good deal and mounted them at 87cm from the tail: they feel like my 186 ehp's turned up to 11! Moreover, they are ridicilously predictable in all conditions thanks to the full-rocker/minimal sidecut/stiffness combo.

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    Just to clarify you demoed, didn't like and then bought anyway?

    Either way your going to love them especially once you really get used to them.

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    I demoed them, thought they were too much work, but did appreciate their stability and stiffness. Instead I bought a pair of (non TBT) Elan Boomerangs to replace my aging EHPs. I overall like the boomerangs, but they just feel a bit to soft in comparison to my EHPs, so when I saw a good deal on the Rens I jumped on it to also have a more stable ski.
    However, after skiing them with my own mount i just love them overall and they feel way more nimble than when I demoed while still providing excellent stability (I'm guessing the boomerangs will not be seeing to much action anymore...).

    So stoked to ski them again next season!!!

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    Paging D(C), gramboh, Caucasian Asian, mntlion, JRainey, avugeek, angrysasquatch.....

    Just reread the entire thread.

    I'll mount them at 87.256764577753359095423684289427cm straight pull from the tail.

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    ^^I actually read your full post, but didn't have time to respond. Go 87 from the tail.

    ...then buy some 191 Billy Goats.

    I'm bummed I got rid of my Rens, but not quite enough to justify buying them again for how much I ski these days...even for the $285 that bc.com is blowing them out. BGs still rocking my world. Only time I really miss the Rens is treed rolling terrain. So fun and quick side-to-side!
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    Quote Originally Posted by auvgeek View Post
    ^^I actually read your full post, but didn't have time to respond. Go 87 from the tail.

    ...then buy some 191 Billy Goats.

    I'm bummed I got rid of my Rens, but not quite enough to justify buying them again for how much I ski these days...even for the $285 that bc.com is blowing them out. BGs still rocking my world. Only time I really miss the Rens is treed rolling terrain. So fun and quick side-to-side!
    The easiest solution to that is just to ski more.

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    Thanks avugeek.

    It was good rereading this thread...All stoked for winter.
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    I have the 196 Rens with STH 16s, great ski for Jackson Hole Mountain Resort & the surrounding slackcountry.

    If you want touring, I would go with the 187. Kind of hard to kick turn on a 196. However, I do like the 196 Renegade for charging around Teton Village & hiking the Teton Pass Mt. Glory bootpack.

    I tour with some 188 CRJs, but if I were ever to get another Dynafit touring, I would go with a 187 Ren or Hoji if the right deal presented itself. Right now, the six or seven skis I have is enough.
    Always charging it in honor of Flyin' Ryan Hawks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auvgeek View Post
    ^^I actually read your full post, but didn't have time to respond. Go 87 from the tail.

    ...then buy some 191 Billy Goats.

    I'm bummed I got rid of my Rens, but not quite enough to justify buying them again for how much I ski these days...even for the $285 that bc.com is blowing them out. BGs still rocking my world. Only time I really miss the Rens is treed rolling terrain. So fun and quick side-to-side!
    Is that 87 straight pull or along the base of the ski?
    "...if you're not doing a double flip cork something, skiing spines in Haines, or doing double flip cork somethings off spines in Haines, you're pretty much just gaping."

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    Quote Originally Posted by shafty85 View Post
    Is that 87 straight pull or along the base of the ski?
    The ski is flat in the rear; 87 is 87 no matter how you slice it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altaholic View Post
    I have the 196 Rens with STH 16s, great ski for Jackson Hole Mountain Resort & the surrounding slackcountry.

    If you want touring, I would go with the 187. Kind of hard to kick turn on a 196. However, I do like the 196 Renegade for charging around Teton Village & hiking the Teton Pass Mt. Glory bootpack.

    I tour with some 188 CRJs, but if I were ever to get another Dynafit touring, I would go with a 187 Ren or Hoji if the right deal presented itself. Right now, the six or seven skis I have is enough.
    Why not go with PM Gear Kusalas? Touring version of the Renegade... (and skis even better in the stiff flex).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcat Sig View Post
    The ski is flat in the rear; 87 is 87 no matter how you slice it.
    Doesn't the ski have continuous rocker? This would seem to indicate the tail isn't flat, to me.
    "...if you're not doing a double flip cork something, skiing spines in Haines, or doing double flip cork somethings off spines in Haines, you're pretty much just gaping."

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    Quote Originally Posted by shafty85 View Post
    Doesn't the ski have continuous rocker? This would seem to indicate the tail isn't flat, to me.
    Yes. When you get your pair; you'll know I mean. The tails are flat. And you don't need to worry about measuring from the bottom. A mm in difference will not matter.

    87 - measure it, mark it, drill it, mount it.

    Edit: Here's a shot of a pair I ended up buying. The rocker is so subtle that it might as well be flat.


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