Salomon Quest Tech inserts failure thread

**zeroforhire** · 10-28-2010, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by Moralkaka

http://www.salomonfreeski.com/se/pro...st-12.html#bas

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just commented. thanks for the link

**Sessiøn** · 10-28-2010, 09:49 AM

Roasting complete

**detrusor** · 10-28-2010, 01:25 PM

comment posted, I was hoping to see more.....hint hint hint

**My Pet Powder Goat** · 10-29-2010, 09:08 PM

awesome comments! I just sent mine, keep em coming. Seems like lots of drunk people raging online tonight lets aim it in a positive direction

**Core Shot** · 10-30-2010, 10:36 AM

Who did the letter to the editor in Backcountry magazine this month?

well done and classy work there

**Ocean** · 10-30-2010, 11:23 AM

If you click on "technologies" from the link below Salomon say that Quest touring soles are compatible with all "safety touring bindings".

http://www.salomonfreeski.com/se/pro...pro-pebax.html

Interesting choice of words from the marketing department there, I suspect Salomon are trying to make out that they have dropped the Low Tech binding compatibility from their touring soles because Dynafit bindings don't release well enough to be described as "safety touring bindings".

**My Pet Powder Goat** · 10-30-2010, 11:27 AM

What are these "safety touring bindings"?

Who's gonna organize a group buy?

**johngenx** · 10-30-2010, 06:46 PM

Mouse over "Touring Pads" for a little surprise!!

**stuckathuntermtn** · 10-30-2010, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by Moralkaka

http://www.salomonfreeski.com/se/pro...st-12.html#bas

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LOL. Is Salomon fucking retarded? Maybe they really are. I'll write something not to douchy.
Bonus, you can comment on ALL their products.
Spam time!

**My Pet Powder Goat** · 10-30-2010, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by johngenx

Mouse over "Touring Pads" for a little surprise!!

I noticed that earlier. It appears they are advertising for the low tech pads again. must have gotten them replaced.
Not that it matters I wouldn't even suggest them to Polariso to ski on.

**burghschred** · 11-01-2010, 02:05 PM

Just saw this whole thread/incident via [ame="http://tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=204060"]No Cheers and Booos for Salomon at The Way I See It (NYC premier) - Teton Gravity Research Forums[/ame]. I am kind of new to TGR (jong?). This shit makes me SICK. I just posted my thoughts onto the Quest page on Salomon's site, with the rest of you guys. Keep em coming.... Thoughts go out to you tc.

**njfreeskier** · 11-03-2010, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Core Shot

Who did the letter to the editor in Backcountry magazine this month?

well done and classy work there

That was me. I almost forgot about it, until TC said something to me. I wrote it after reading the rave reviews about the quest boot, and was like what the hell is going on here, did people already forget what happened. There was a little more to the letter than what was included, but it gets the main idea across for the most part. I included a little background about Dalton, and links to Lou Dawson's test, and some other info as well. But overall, it gets the point across. Glad people are reading it and learning about what happened...even though you already knew.

**DoWork** · 11-03-2010, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by johngenx

Mouse over "Touring Pads" for a little surprise!!

Yeah, what the fuck?

How do you do a screenshot? I want to repost it in here, I can't believe my fucking eyes.

**DoWork** · 11-03-2010, 03:19 PM

Oh, and don't forget to spread feces on this one too... This is the real bitch right here.

http://www.salomonfreeski.com/se/pro...pro-pebax.html

**Beyond** · 11-03-2010, 04:15 PM

Anyone know how long the "touring pad" pulldown has had that? If it's recent, they're planning to re-release, if a few months, could be some intern who forgot to change the copy.

**ex-powderbroker** · 11-03-2010, 06:13 PM

I'VE SAID IT BEFORE AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN,

FUCK THESE GUYS

**My Pet Powder Goat** · 11-03-2010, 06:27 PM

Why don't we have "boycott Salomon" stickers yet?

**njfreeskier** · 11-03-2010, 06:30 PM

"Made of well known Salomon Contragrip rubber"

It's well-known alright. Well known for being utter crap!

"It is compatible with all touring bindings on the market (including Dynafit) while answering (certifying) all the safety norms."

That's funny, 3 months ago they were saying that there were no safety norms in the industry for that type of binding. I guess Salomon's definition of compatible is different than everyone else's.

**Bud** · 11-03-2010, 09:34 PM

looks like there isn't a comment section on the regular salomon site...

http://www.salomon.com/us/product/qu...pebax.html#bas

too bad comments about the boots only show up on salomonfreeski.com

also, did anyone else notice that this page lists the touring pads....
http://www.salomonfreeski.com/se/pro...pro-pebax.html

but this done doesn't?
http://www.salomonfreeski.com/us/pro...pro-pebax.html

looks like the US Salomon site pulled any mention of AT compatibility, but the 'SE' site still lists all the crap about being dynafit compatible....

**meatdrink9** · 11-03-2010, 09:41 PM

I'm trying to figure out how behaving negatively provides a positive result. It's frustrating to see as Salomon has done a lot of really good things for skiing and my community as well.

I spent some time at the Salomon offices today and probably ended up spending the most time talking about Dalton. Everybody there knows Dalton by name and everybody wants to see him on skis again. I wish you guys could figure out that the legal process takes time. An accident occurred. The product was immediately recalled. A lawsuit was filed and now it's in the lawyers hands. They bill hourly... of course it's going to take a long time.

Does anyone have any specifics about the lawsuit or milestones along the way? How can you say they're not doing anything if you're not a part of the case? I wish I could go into more specifics, but I'm just a B or C team athlete that stopped by to check out some gear and really have no idea what can or can't be said, but know it is a huge concern for them and that they are actively working on remedying the situation. Not because a bunch of people from TGR were calling names, but because that's the course this case is going to run independent of the virtual mob outside the building (that can't see what's actually happening inside).

BTW, I still have a new jacket up for sale with all proceeds going to Dalton (3 pairs of bindings already sold). I may have some skis up soon as well. If you want to help Dalton. Help Dalton. If you want to shake pitchforks and call names I guess that's cool too, but ask yourself if you're actually helping anyone. If they hadn't recalled the touring pad I'd say the vitriol is 100% completely justified. If the case were closed and Dalton was left out in the cold... again I'd say you're more than justified. Hell, I'd probably join you. But that's not the case. It's being handled in the arena that Dalton chose to have it handled in when he filed the lawsuit (which was the right thing to do in this modern world).

**ectreeskier11** · 11-03-2010, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by meatdrink9

I'm trying to figure out how behaving negatively provides a positive result. It's frustrating to see as Salomon has done a lot of really good things for skiing and my community as well.

I spent some time at the Salomon offices today and probably ended up spending the most time talking about Dalton. Everybody there knows Dalton by name and everybody wants to see him on skis again. I wish you guys could figure out that the legal process takes time. An accident occurred. The product was immediately recalled. A lawsuit was filed and now it's in the lawyers hands. They bill hourly... of course it's going to take a long time.

Does anyone have any specifics about the lawsuit or milestones along the way? How can you say they're not doing anything if you're not a part of the case? I wish I could go into more specifics, but I'm just a B or C team athlete that stopped by to check out some gear and really have no idea what can or can't be said, but know it is a huge concern for them and that they are actively working on remedying the situation. Not because a bunch of people from TGR were calling names, but because that's the course this case is going to run independent of the virtual mob outside the building (that can't see what's actually happening inside).

BTW, I still have a new jacket up for sale with all proceeds going to Dalton (3 pairs of bindings already sold). I may have some skis up soon as well. If you want to help Dalton. Help Dalton. If you want to shake pitchforks and call names I guess that's cool too, but ask yourself if you're actually helping anyone. If they hadn't recalled the touring pad I'd say the vitriol is 100% completely justified. If the case were closed and Dalton was left out in the cold... again I'd say you're more than justified. Hell, I'd probably join you. But that's not the case. It's being handled in the arena that Dalton chose to have it handled in when he filed the lawsuit (which was the right thing to do in this modern world).

Really glad to hear this, MD9 seems to be a credible source and it sounds like the proper steps are being taking. it just sucks to see dalton struggling to pay for PT costs, yet he's going to be waiting years most likely to see any money form salomon. i wish in the current climate it seems litigation like this takes place it would be reasonable to say to salomon that if they could cover dalton's current (not even surgeries or anything at this point, just PT and such proceeding to get him on track) costs, people would give them a break, but with how it goes that certainly isn't going to happen, and i get (we?) get that. thanks for the update man.

**My Pet Powder Goat** · 11-03-2010, 10:10 PM

Great post and perspective. ...That's probably all Salomon would have had to say originally.

I'm aware that the employees, (probably mtn loving freaks like us) are affected and I hate it, but to me it's important to 'put their feet to the fire' and remind them through a boycott that we are waiting for a resolution. They don't want this shitty bad press and maybe if their bottom line takes a hit or their image is getting tarnished then they will try to get the lawyering done a little bit quicker, helping Dalton out, no?

**I've seen black diamonds!** · 11-03-2010, 10:20 PM

"I'm trying to figure out how behaving negatively provides a positive result."

The impersonal explanation-

The vitriol is intended to produce a negative result for Salomon because this:

destroyed someones leg. This was not a manufacturing defect, but a careless product. Salomon made choices that led to severe injury. I would like Salomon and other companies to be terrified of making such choices. I'm sure you and most of the folks at Salomon are fine people, perhaps even those involved in this unfortunate product. But I maintain that widely and bluntly voiced anger is quite reasonable in this case.

The personal explanation:

Because of this:

I don't get to ski with my friend this year (at least not the way I used to- I'll be surprised if TC doesn't find some way to slide on snow this year) and I want someone to pay...

in summation: fuck Salomon.