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Thread: Salomon Quest Tech inserts failure thread

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    Been away from the community for awhile now and catching up on this thread as I got these boots mid-year last season. Seams like I am one of very few here, besides TC, who has these boots. I don't have the tech insert soles. I like mine, but its going to be sour to use them next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by njfreeskier View Post
    i think it's a coincidence, but zing indeed!
    Certainly not a coincidence just smart marketing!

    TC, look forward to meeting you sometime this season. I'm sorry for your situation and wish you a speedy recovery but must say I'm just so impressed by your attitude! Keep up the pressure on Salomon and tear them a new one!

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    Thought this was worth a bump.

    Quote Originally Posted by DoWork View Post
    Guys, out of all of this... Just remember that Dalt is incurring pretty heavy costs to recover. He does PT 3x a week and it costs him $50 each time... $600/mo just in PT copays is a ton and that doesn't even begin to factor in doctor/specialist visits, X-rays, etc, etc, etc... So while the wheels of legality turn ever so slowly, our boy is being drained as he fights to make his triumphant return. Not cool.

    The T-shirt fundraiser is no more, but you can still make a donation to him via his paypal- even if it's a small one, I see him regularly enough to know the impact it has on him that people are out there and although they might have never met him, are still willing to lend a helping hand. I know it makes me feel good when I see it happening! Mad props to everyone who has given something- may your trails be buried in fresh pow, your bases remain unscathed and your favorite line be untouched when you get to it.

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    j'ai des grands instants de lucididididididididi

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    "that's what she said"


    Brillant.

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    Spencer Weetley & Rick Armstrung are both awesome skiers and realtors!

    Shasta once in the spring... fucking hardcore, glad Salomon is really having their pros test these rigorously.

    [Edit to change their names so people looking for real estate agents don't find this via google on accident]
    Last edited by Patches; 09-17-2010 at 02:04 PM.

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    until you win the valdez extreme, STFU
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    I'm not talking shit about Spencer's skiing.

    He is getting paid to hype the boot. From his review he's done a single one-day tour in them... maybe if Salomon wants to get into the touring boot market they should sponsor people who tour. That would have been useful during their testing period, and would have resulted in helpful things like, oh, preventing Dalton from being crippled for life.

    Spencer wrote a junk review so Salomon could sell more of their shitty boots and deserves to get called out for it.

    And I thought the bio was pretty funny...

    [EDIT: Read his bio, sounds like he tours a lot- from his review I thought he was a heli guide who had toured in them once. My cracking on him may have been hasty, in which case I apologize.]
    Last edited by Patches; 09-16-2010 at 09:49 PM.

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    WHOAAA!!! At least someone at Salomon admits it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by marshalolson View Post
    until you win the valdez extreme, STFU
    Irrelevant. Totally irrelevant. No disrespect intended to a man who's name I first heard 5 minutes ago.
    Life is not lift served.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patches View Post
    I'm not talking shit about Spencer's skiing.

    He is getting paid to hype the boot. From his review he's done a single one-day tour in them... maybe if Salomon wants to get into the touring boot market they should sponsor people who tour. That would have been useful during their testing period, and would have resulted in helpful things like, oh, preventing Dalton from being crippled for life.

    Spencer wrote a junk review so Salomon could sell more of their shitty boots and deserves to get called out for it.

    And I thought the bio was pretty funny...

    [EDIT: Read his bio, sounds like he tours a lot- from his review I thought he was a heli guide who had toured in them once. My cracking on him may have been hasty, in which case I apologize.]
    That guy is a paid shill. It is impossible not to crack on him in this situation. Didn't Yelp get sued because they allowed restaurants the ability to self review and place their pseudo ads at the top? Having his review as a "Salomon sponsored athlete" at the top of the reviews of the quest boot is the same to me.

    Fuck Salomon; I intend to keep their feet to the fire which is the least I can do to support my friend because of their negligence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ml242 View Post
    Having his review as a "Salomon sponsored athlete" at the top of the reviews of the quest boot is the same to me.
    He disclosed his bias at the outset. And stated that he never tried the Dynafit-compatible soles. His actions seem reasonable to me.

    I'm not buying Salomon (or Amer) either. But this guy is a good skier trying to live the dream. More power to him.
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    Not really relevant when the discussion is about ethics, not athleticism.

    Its not really about the individuals anyway; he's just emblematic of Salomon entering the touring market and not getting people who tour to test their boots.

    Goofing on him is just kind of funny. BTW I edited his name so it won't sneak into Google results, I don't want my comments to cost him clients. The name is still in the pictures but Google can't parse those.

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    Whoah I've been repeatedly mooning a former xstreame champ. My bad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finstah View Post
    In most situations I'd agree with this statement. But, this is a skiing forum, if winning the WESC in Valdez is relevant anywhere, it's here.
    In the context of this thread, when opinions are offered regarding the gear that failed, being an incredibly skilled and high risk skier today or from way back is not relevant. No disrespect to apparent legends of the sport intended.

    That aspect of skiing was seemingly given far too much attention during design, testing and online marketing/hyping of the boots. Dalton, an everyday man who likes to ski backcountry, now pays the price.
    Life is not lift served.

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    That is encouraging info, thanks.

    But at the risk of banging my possibly misplaced point too much...

    Obviously, the low tech Dynafit compatible inserts for the Quest boot didn't receive the same attention...
    That is because low tech bindings are not for hucking and ripping skiers to huck and rip in, and that is where the glam is at these days. Again, I think they were thrown into the box as an afterthought just to make that extra bit of cash from the longer distance ski touring market. Look at SkierRicks first post on these boots. I know (now) that he is also a legend of the sport, and no disrespect intended, but nothing in that post made the low tech aspect of the boot appear to be anything other than a "Dynafit? meh, whatever" aspect of a real mans slack country boot for huckin and rippin.

    And Dalton pays the price.
    Life is not lift served.

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    More vibes TC hope your continuing to heal i was searching for the tr where you whapworth or tele thor where you hiked out of dessert or nebo with a broken leg or ankle to bump that and send ya vibes but i suck at the webz
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    Thanks for the positive thoughts, I also tried to find that thread, forgot about it, some good stoke and story of a
    Bc extraction.


    Waiting on a custom brace, there was so much bone loss that every thing is super incongruent from the femur condials into the knee. Which makes it impossible to Bend it right now. However, I can bear weight for short periods of time, but withouth bending its kind of meaningless. Still busting ass and making PT my business. Confident that I will make the best of what this thing can be.

    Thanks to all who are putting the good energy out there for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finstah View Post
    For what it's worth, Salomon has a couple of different alpine touring bindings that several skiers have been testing over the last two seasons. One of their biggest obstacles has been creating a touring function with a Driver toe piece that keeps the nose of the toe piece from hitting the ski in the walk mode. Another one of the protos has a blunter, more "Duke esque" toe piece. The amount of time these bindings have spent in R&D is actually pretty impressive. Obviously, the low tech Dynafit compatible inserts for the Quest boot didn't receive the same attention...
    Are you kidding me . . . I wouldn't buy shit from this company ever again!!!
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    Wow, you guys got all stalker-ish on that guy for no reason. I think you should take that pic down. His first sentence starts "I am a Salomon athlete," so wtf is the problem? Sounds like, other then being a slimy realtor (probably so he can take time off whenever he wants), he's living the dream. Salomon touring binding actually sounds cool. Haven't kept up with the tread. Has Salomon or Amer taken care of thin cover in any way?
    No longer stuck.

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Just an uneducated guess.

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    Nope. Not that I'm aware of. Legal system is a system of law, not justice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshalolson View Post
    unless this thing goes to trial (which is almost assuredly NOT in TC's best interest and without question not in salomon's best interest), these questions will never be satisfactorily answered.

    i personally will withhold judgement (beyond the opinion i have of them that i gained through 9 years of working for them part-time up until winter 07/08) until this thing is resolved.
    "these questions will never be satisfactorily answered" - even when trials are held, there are very few definitive answers. If there were definitive answers there would be no trial. Follow a few lawsuits and see what is allowed as evidence, not allowed, and who is allowed to testify and to what. CSI is not real life...

    TC - as someone who was a plaintiff in a skiing related lawsuit (chairlift fell off the cable), and as someone who works in and around the legal system and lawsuits, be prepared to be disappointed. Crazy things happen in lawsuits. Hopefully they make you a reasonable offer, and I hope you have a good lawyer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finstah View Post
    For what it's worth, Salomon has a couple of different alpine touring bindings that several skiers have been testing over the last two seasons. One of their biggest obstacles has been creating a touring function with a Driver toe piece that keeps the nose of the toe piece from hitting the ski in the walk mode. Another one of the protos has a blunter, more "Duke esque" toe piece. The amount of time these bindings have spent in R&D is actually pretty impressive. Obviously, the low tech Dynafit compatible inserts for the Quest boot didn't receive the same attention...
    Seen this and can attest to it at least the "duke like" model. I was unaware they had kept going with a driver toe design. I saw the duke type model last year. Heel will be typical sollie...

    Dont know where the ball was dropped on this R&D, but it doesnt seemingly flow through the entire chain of command.

    Heal up Dalton.

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    "" One of their biggest obstacles has been creating a touring function with a Driver toe piece that keeps the nose of the toe piece from hitting the ski in the walk mode. Another one of the protos has a blunter, more "Duke esque" toe piece. ""


    Besides claiming it gave a more natural stride I think thats one of the reasons the Naxo design had the link (which wore out /fucked up) it allows the use of a driver like toe piece


    the legal system is definatley not TV ...this thread could go on forever

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    Quote Originally Posted by neufox47 View Post
    Follow a few lawsuits and see what is allowed as evidence, not allowed, and who is allowed to testify and to what. CSI is not real life...
    really? my entire existance has been shattered with this revelation

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