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    Review: 2011 Coreupt Guerlain Chicherit Pro Model

    I was lucky enough to bump into Guerlain the other day and ski with him. He was on his pro model ski for net year, and let me take a few laps on them. Granted, I only had a couple laps on these monsters, but here's what I thought:

    The ski:
    2011 Coreupt Guerlain Chicherit Pro Model
    183cm
    140 underfoot (not sure of the tip and tail dimensions, but it was pretty much traditional sidecut.)
    35 meter turning radius
    Shape: Square tips that resemble Moments (rather than the Big Balls proto last year), A tiny tiny bit of reverse sidecut in the tips and tails, and rocker tip and tail. There was a lot of rocker in the tip (about the same as my Protests, and a bit less in the tails). Flex was on the medium/soft side; not super soft though. Definitely stiffer than Hellbents and the like.

    Conditions: ~50cms of new snow. Got everything from Super light to super heavy pow, crud, hard groomers, etc.

    Pow: Obviously at 140 underfoot these things float. What I wasn't expecting was that they were just as pivoty/surfy/smeary as full reverse/reverse. In pow I couldn't tell the difference between them or my Protests. Super awesome pow ski.

    Crud/tracked pow: I was really surprised how well these things charged through cut up. I was worried that they would be awful through chop like Hellbents and EP Pros. Not the case. With the rocker and huge tips they floated over any bumps with ease.

    Groomers: With a 35 meter radius these things do carve, and they do it pretty well. Definitely not a GS ski, but they will make it back to the lift without being cumbersome at all. Compared to my Protests, these things are much more manageable on hard snow, they didn't feel like work at all.

    Overall: The first time I saw these things I was super skeptical, but they are a ton of fun. The guys at Coreupt see it as a pow only ski, and I agree, but it is way more manageable on harder snow that a reverse/reverse. I see this thing as being a charging version of the EP Pro. Same awesome float, but much better everywhere else.

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    Did a quick ski radius calculation:

    140mm underfoot with 35m radius

    Roughly:

    164-140-153


    Assuming normal (~10mm) taper...if the taper was more pronounced then obviously the tail gets narrower and the tip gets fatter.
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    That sounds about right. HUGE. Thanks!

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    Found a pic of the BIG BALLS which is the same ski with different graphics.
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    I'm really troubled by whatever pictures the Don had to search through to arrive at that one...

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    Wrong! The big balls was a proto that only came in a 205 or 207 length. It was stupid soft too. Like softer than Hellbents soft. The Watch Out comes from the same design idea, but only comes in a 183, and is a bit stiffer.

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    Thanks for the review. It would be nice to see Guerlain in some online edits, Candide Camera style.
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    I'd be interested to see some pics of these...

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    Pardon my ingnance but what's the idea behind those square tips? You'd think if you were laying it over going fast in deep pow they hook like crazy sending you into a Top Gun style flat spin.
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    Pics and more info can be found here:

    http://america.coreupt.com/skis/watc...lain-chicherit

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    Quote Originally Posted by DudeLebowSKI View Post
    Pardon my ingnance but what's the idea behind those square tips? You'd think if you were laying it over going fast in deep pow they hook like crazy sending you into a Top Gun style flat spin.
    Those are some trip lookin' skis. Really catch the eye.
    Makes me wonder if Guerlain wasn't influenced by Craig's Garbones last time they went head to head at Kirkwood.

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    Monsters. Love the tips. Looks like you would want to watch branches and hairy obstacles much more closely though.

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    From the link above ^^^

    Mr Chicherit's 2011 skis come with square tips and tails, a 100% CoreUPT.com innovation
    LOL! 'Cos square tips have NEVER been done before! :S

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flotsam View Post
    Monsters. Love the tips. Looks like you would want to watch branches and hairy obstacles much more closely though.
    I just want to know the purpose of those tips. The website doesn't have any explanation. If there isn't a legit reason for the square tips, I'd categorize them as more of a 'gimmick' than an 'innovation'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldwater View Post
    LOL! 'Cos square tips have NEVER been done before! :S
    of course they are a brand new innovation! here they are, rebranded as a Goode, but that shouldn't matter. we know goode steals skis:


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    I remember him explaining it as something like: with a rockered ski, the tips are always out of the snow anyway, so why not cut them off? Personally, I don't buy it. Good luck plowing through alders with square tips!

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    Anyone else get a chance to try these out and have more fedback? Very little info out there on them.
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    float is good, but it need stip slope to find a good speed.
    the mix pivoty/ stability is very high.
    something like an ARG but manageable on groomers

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    big tip >> 150mm : usefull only in very light powder.

    big square tip 170mm like the Watch Out >> you catch every branchs and holes on the way!
    the tip of this coreupt is 58cm long but 7cm high only, combine to the outline it's a bad choice.

    this show me classical outline of tip is finally a good thing

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    I own the watch outs I will post my reveiw its a lot better ski than you think.
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    for a skier less than 170lbs , it's a great ski .

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