Obama to Cancel US Manned Space Program Cancelled - NASA to focus on Global Warming

[Labcabin]

Thats just fucked. Cancel Nasa funding. Focus on global warming. As China and Russia pass us by in Areospace research and contribute largely to global warming the US is suppose to be researching. Just fucked.

[sidewall]

Almost as comical as how small your brain is.

All of your questions were answered in the Bible, huh?

doughboy, why do you always have to be such a dick?

[kevok2]

The truth is, the guy can't win. There are people pummeling him for everything. I agree with you in that I think money spent on the space program is, in the long run, money well spent. But I can't blame him for cutting something that doesn't have much virulent support (outside of you ). Though I now predict republicans will find a way to support the space program.

The healthcare thing is the end of him. He has good intentions, but he's wedged in between failing on the Democrats' promises and pissing off the majority of Americans who don't support it. I kinda feel bad for him.

The rest of what you said is intelligible.

[KQ]

I'm probably really going to regret this BUT......

so if the President does what you all says he's going to do, does that mean that for all eternity it will always be thus and so and there is never ever a chance of undoing this? Does it mean that this is the nail in the coffin?

Hmmmmm, hasn't some of what the last President did already been changed by the current President and hasn't that been the case throughout time?

I dunno...after allowing myself to get worked up over politics in the past and running around like it was all true and that we were doomed I have found all that ever accomplished was to upset ME and waste MY time.

*shrug*

I know you all are upset and all but come on man....take it to the appropriate forum.

[Hugh Conway]

Thats just fucked. Cancel Nasa funding. Focus on global warming. As China and Russia pass us by in Areospace research and contribute largely to global warming the US is suppose to be researching. Just fucked.

Russia? You miss the past 2 decades? Even Aeroflot is buying Boeings.

The healthcare thing is the end of him. He has good intentions, but he's wedged in between failing on the Democrats' promises and pissing off the majority of Americans who don't support it. I kinda feel bad for him.

The rest of what you said is intelligible.

you can understand the rest of what he said? congratulations!

[summit]

so if the President does what you all says he's going to do, does that mean that for all eternity it will always be thus and so and there is never ever a chance of undoing this? Does it mean that this is the nail in the coffin?

Actually, yes for a large part. This isn't like cutting funding to a social program. When you have a HIGHLY technical institution and industry like this, if you cut it out, it shrivels and must be regrown like an oak tree. You shut it down and the field loses expertise and experience. It goes away down the brain drain. New people don't enter the field and learn (why get a BS, MS, PhD in that?). Production facilities and tooling go away. Manufacturing know-how goes away. Operational know how goes away. You can't bring that all back on overnight with the stroke of a pen and the snap of fingers. Four or eight years and you end up starting nearly from scratch.

I know you all are upset and all but come on man....take it to the appropriate forum.

This is the appropriate forum. If you are referring to forum 22, nobody posts there. It was created due to the huge thread traffic around the election. It served it's purpose. Padded Room has been the historical place for topics like this.

[kevok2]

you can understand the rest of what he said? congratulations!

IntelliGENT. Although most people can't even get to the intelligible level when it comes to politics.

[OSECS]

]I'm probably really going to regret this BUT......

so if the President does what you all says he's going to do, does that mean that for all eternity it will always be thus and so and there is never ever a chance of undoing this? Does it mean that this is the nail in the coffin?

Hmmmmm, hasn't some of what the last President did already been changed by the current President and hasn't that been the case throughout time?

I dunno...after allowing myself to get worked up over politics in the past and running around like it was all true and that we were doomed I have found all that ever accomplished was to upset ME and waste MY time.

*shrug*

I know you all are upset and all but come on man....take it to the appropriate forum.

KQ,

You can't just shut down programs like these and then re start them later. The minutia, detail, and momentum that goes into these programs. The routine of doing this stuff day to day, the experience you gain every day. It's hard to just pick it up later. You lose the very people who have and are gaining the knowledge to take steps in gaining more knowledge. You can't just re assemble the gang a year down the road and expect to be where you were

This is a hard topic to keep out of the political realm because it seems like it's being used as a political toy, which it shouldn't.

[Benny Profane]

We beat Russia to the moon in the late 60s. That's why we had a space program in the first place. We won. Get over it.

[Hugh Conway]

IntelliGENT. Although most people can't even get to the intelligible level when it comes to politics.

including you apparently

[summit]

We beat Russia to the moon in the late 60s. That's why we had a space program in the first place. We won. Get over it.

If you really think it was only about who got to stick a flag on the moon first, you have to be willfully ignorant.

[KQ]

This is the appropriate forum. If you are referring to forum 22, nobody posts there. It was created due to the huge thread traffic around the election. It served it's purpose. Padded Room has been the historical place for topics like this.

It WAS until they made the other forum. We used to post this kinda stuff in the Ski forum until they created this forum. History is fine but things change. So no one posts there - find another board that is dedicated to politics and you'll have a better audience.

[hop]

I'd be happy if a tiny fraction of what is/was spent in space was spent on our own planet first. Specifically, the oceans would be great, but anywhere would do.

[kevok2]

^^ THAT was very specifically due to the ignorance of business assholes, not faulty human engineering.

I understand the necessity to cut back government spending (NASA has a habit of creating jobs where there aren't any,) but it seems like they've once again tried to cut not only the pork but thrown the whole thing out. You don't throw a perfectly good steak out the window if there are a few fatty pieces on the edges.

However, if they kill the whole thing...

When you have a HIGHLY technical institution and industry like this, if you cut it out, it shrivels and must be regrown like an oak tree. You shut it down and the field loses expertise and experience. It goes away down the brain drain. New people don't enter the field and learn (why get a BS, MS, PhD in that?). Production facilities and tooling go away. Manufacturing know-how goes away. Operational know how goes away. You can't bring that all back on overnight with the stroke of a pen and the snap of fingers. Four or eight years and you end up starting nearly from scratch.

Killing it temporarily could mean killing it entirely.

[summit]

It WAS until they made the other forum. We used to post this kinda stuff in the Ski forum until they created this forum. History is fine but things change. So no one posts there - find another board that is dedicated to politics and you'll have a better audience.

You've posted a ton of political shit. You've NEVER posted a stoke thread and the vast majority of your threads have nothing to do with skiing. In summary, I submit that you are the one who needs to find a new audience.

[Hugh Conway]

You've posted a ton of political shit. You've NEVER posted a stoke thread and the vast majority of your threads have nothing to do with skiing. In summary, I submit that you are the one who needs to find a new place to hang out.

BRING OUT THE GRUDGE MATCH!

[Benny Profane]

If you really think it was only about who got to stick a flag on the moon first, you have to be willfully ignorant.

Military high ground and a very visible competition between two of the most powerful world powers, resulting in stimulus spending and technological innovation in both countries. We had a war called the Cold War back then. Put the game controller down and look it up.

The moon, we found out, is a useless barren place, hardly worth .5% of the expense to go there and plant a flag. The Chinese are doing it today to prove some sort of stupid point that they aren't pajama clad red book readers anymore. Big deal. We did it a long time ago. Mars manned travel is basically impossible if you don't want to accept the fact that it's a suicide mission. But, the robots we make these days find plenty for the nerds to mull over. That costs enough as it is.

[KQ]

You've posted a ton of political shit. You've NEVER posted a stoke thread and the vast majority of your threads have nothing to do with skiing. In summary, I submit that you are the one who needs to find a new audience.

"The best defense is a good offense"

Request for Production No. 1

Please produce each and every political post ever made by the user KQ in a forum other than "Political Asshattery" after the existence of said forum

[KQ]

BRING OUT THE GRUDGE MATCH!

LOL!! Nah...but as I said...I knew I'd regret this.

[LittleYellowFriend]

It is clear now that President Obama represents a HUGE step backward for all of human civilization.

[Hugh Conway]

It is clear now that President Obama represents a HUGE step backward for all of human civilization.

He's given some meaning and purpose to your pathetic little existence

[QuikR12]

Its obvious, Obama saw Avatar and realized sending men into space was a bad idea for intergallactic humanities. Michael Cameron is to blame, not Obama.

[kevok2]

It is clear now that President Obama represents a HUGE step backward for all of human civilization.

What was that quote...."one small step for an avid Republican, one giant leap into oblivion..."

[prokeke]

lol tampa florida railroad. good call
"how long should the future be put on hold"

[summit]

Dear KQ, nobody gives a fuck that you are a lawyer, and you don't contribute much of anything to these forums was my point. You are the one arguing about "wrong forum," remember?

Military high ground and a very visible competition between two of the most powerful world powers, resulting in stimulus spending and technological innovation in both countries. We had a war called the Cold War back then. Put the game controller down and look it up.

I'm EXTREMELY aware of the Cold War. But if you think the ultimate high ground is no longer relevant, then you a fool. It is still quite relevant.

The moon, we found out, is a useless barren place, hardly worth .5% of the expense to go there and plant a flag.

There are resources to be gained there. Ti and He-3 come to mind. There's also tons of materials on the moon to support a colony and expand it without launching materials from Earth.

Further, for solar system exploration or asteroid capture for mining, there is a shit ton of reaction mass on the Moon which has a much smaller gravity well than Earth.

Mars manned travel is basically impossible if you don't want to accept the fact that it's a suicide mission.

Nope... not if we get over the idea of using chemical rockets. Chemical rocket based exploration of the solar system is retarded.