ARMADA PIPE CLEANER?

[oskier]

has anyone skied the armada pipe cleaner? is it better than the ar6?

[dexterq20]

Go away.

[Moralkaka]

No, stay... But check out Newschoolers.com, think you'll find all the info there...

[oskier]

thanks !

[DHogg]

NS will give you more info.

But PC is really just an AR6 with a race base, lighter core, ect. Just the deluxe version of it really-designed to be faster and lighter for pipe.

[Wes Mantooth]

It's good for powder snowz

But seriously NS will help you, just post info about yourself, like your size and what you plan to ski

[SP_sam-O]

It's good for powder snowz

But seriously NS will help you, just post info about yourself, like your size and what you plan to ski

Do this, but:

PC is AR6 with better core and base, softer tip and stiffer tail, probably a little lighter. I deeply hate a lot of park skis, they only sell because people who use them are like most(not all) of the people on NS, who haven't skied real skis, and think that Line Anthems carve well, and that center mounting a ski like Pipe Cleaners is cool and smart. That being said, I love my Pipe Cleaners(fair amount more than AR6s that I tried), Armada does park skis right. They won't be getting used if we keep getting pow though, all time will be on 138s and LL2s.

[oskier]

Do this, but:

PC is AR6 with better core and base, softer tip and stiffer tail, probably a little lighter. I deeply hate a lot of park skis, they only sell because people who use them are like most(not all) of the people on NS, who haven't skied real skis, and think that Line Anthems carve well, and that center mounting a ski like Pipe Cleaners is cool and smart. That being said, I love my Pipe Cleaners(fair amount more than AR6s that I tried), Armada does park skis right. They won't be getting used if we keep getting pow though, all time will be on 138s and LL2s.

I 've checked them in a shop today.. Aren't they too stiff for jumps?
and how do they carve?

[Tube Sag]

I 've checked them in a shop today.. Aren't they too stiff for jumps?
and how do they carve?

Good lord no. They are nice lively park skis, if you don't ride rails and keep the edges in good shape they will carve fine. . . for park skis.

[SP_sam-O]

too stiff for jumps? No, jumps and pipe are what they were made for, and wtf does too stiff for jumps mean anyways? They break in a bit too, especially the first day. Did you flex them with the tip on the ground? that will better show you how soft the tip is. No way they are too stiff, I wouldn't want them any softer.

[DHogg]

I 've checked them in a shop today.. Aren't they too stiff for jumps?
and how do they carve?

Are you high. you want a stiff ski for jumps

[oskier]

too stiff for jumps? No, jumps and pipe are what they were made for, and wtf does too stiff for jumps mean anyways? They break in a bit too, especially the first day. Did you flex them with the tip on the ground? that will better show you how soft the tip is. No way they are too stiff, I wouldn't want them any softer.

No, I didn't flex them with the tip in the ground, just with the the tail on the ground..
But it was the ski with the hardest hardest flex from all the other skis in the ski shop.. (and they had almost every freestyle ski! I flexed all of them)

Are you high. you want a stiff ski for jumps

No, I am 177 cm and 74 kg (163 lb)..
I am thinking to buy the pipe cleaner or the voelkl wall .. (I have also some thoughts for the ar6)

Has anybody tried both the pipe cleaner and the wall?

Is the symmetrical sidecut of the wall bad for carving?

thx!

[SP_sam-O]

Symmetrical skis are the biggest retard sales point currently out there. I learned to ski park and to ski switch on 68 waisted GS skis. I would rather go back to those than have a ski like Anthems. Pipe Cleaners ski switch great with absolutely no problems, and they also carve going forward! I will say that no symmetrical ski will carve as well switch or forward as Pipe Cleaners(which you should mount -2.5). The only symmetrical skis I have wanted to try for a while is Moment Reno Jibs and Blue Steeles(which I haven't really heard much about), which I have been told somehow actually ski(RJs)!

[oskier]

the factory recommendation is to mount them -5 ..