Lane merging - Early vs. Late

[paulster2626]

Good eening assholes - I'm drunk and just had an arument with he ball and chain. I say theres no better group of smart prixks than the ones on tgr. So answer me this you smartasses:

Lets asy you're drivnin along and a lane is ending due to construction - I say it's better to merfe at the last second, while she says ists better to merge early.

What say the experts?

[Caucasian Asian]

Depends on the traffic and when you can find a gap. If you need to merge left and there is a spot for you, take it.

[gatorboy]

Let me say it so you can understand

allt theings being tha same, go early rather thn lateer

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1. the highway is not supposed to yield to the ramp, nor should the ramp expect the highway traffic to alter speed or lane in any way

2. it is safer to time the merge so that you stay on the ramp the longest time before you merge - end is better

[doughboyshredder]

Good eening assholes - I'm drunk and just had an arument with he ball and chain. I say theres no better group of smart prixks than the ones on tgr. So answer me this you smartasses:

Lets asy you're drivnin along and a lane is ending due to construction - I say it's better to merfe at the last second, while she says ists better to merge early.

What say the experts?

Merging early = small brain.

Merge points are set where they are for a reason. Merging early creates a traffic hazard.

What really gets me is the self righteous douchebag fucks that merge early and then try and straddle the lane to keep others from merging correctly.

[doughboyshredder]

Depends on the traffic and when you can find a gap. If you need to merge left and there is a spot for you, take it.

dumbshit

Let me say it so you can understand

allt theings being tha same, go early rather thn lateer

dumbshit

1. the highway is not supposed to yield to the ramp
2. it is safer to time the merge so that you stay on the ramp the longest time before you merge, so end is better

dumbshit that didn't read the op

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my shizz still apply

[farmer]

Depends on the traffic and when you can find a gap. If you need to merge left and there is a spot for you, take it.

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[doughboyshredder]

yeah, for the most part.

The part that people miss is that the construction crews set the merge point so that it creates the least hazard for them, and the least potential hazards caused upstream due to the traffic merge.

[doughboyshredder]

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And, another idiot. Go learn how to drive, you are creating a traffic hazard.

An efficient merge happens at the merge point in a zipper like fashion. This is state law, and common sense.

Every car that gets over early is slowing the main line down before it is supposed to be affected. Also when the merge is happening in a zipper (as per state law) then you have one car from lane a, one from b, one from a, one from b.

In your retarded world you have one from a, then one from b that jumped in early, then another from b that merged correctly, then one from a, then three from b that jumped in early.

Get it???????

[paulster2626]

shit i just thouht of the parallels that this has with a lift line - zipper function - osh whit aean that is some deep shizz right here!

[paulster2626]

yah i'm just gonna go finnish the bottle o crown now

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[bean]

Merging early = small brain.

Merge points are set where they are for a reason. Merging early creates a traffic hazard.

Merge points are set a minimum distance before the roadwork (or other reason necessitating a closure), and can be as far back as whoever's setting up the closure wants (within reason). If traffic is free flowing, it's best to merge whenever you have a chance, ie earlier. If you're down to a stop and go crawl, merge at the end.

[booner]

Early is the goal

[mock vomit]

My humble opinion... earlier is SAFER, later is FASTER.

I would argue that finding some moderation is key... not too eary, not too late. Best implemented by SLOWLY starting to merge (usually left) while STILL BLOCKING much of the lane to the right of you.

Of course... this advice assumes you have delays/slowdowns inherent with construction on a major route. Should it be lighter traffic, the "merge with gap" advice is probably best.

And lastly... should you not want to have to masturbate to "get off" today; whatever "she" says is the correct answer.

[/end thread] peace out

[stevesmith7]

There seems to be a local standard that varies from state to state. About ten years ago I'm driving through Montana on a four lane non-interstate in the right lane. All of a sudden for no obvious reason all the traffic in my lane moves to the left which of course causes the left lane to come to a crawl. Being a California driver at the time I keep going in the right lane, for like three miles to where the construction actually was. Most CA drivers would have waited until the very end.

Last summer I'm going up I70 to Summit. A sign on the left shoulder says left lane closed one mile so everyone moves right except me. The right lane slows to a crawl and I pass 20-30 cars until a semi in front of me in the right lane moves over and drives straddling the lane line to block my passing!? Not wanting to push it I just trail behind him until we round the next curve and see that the right lane is not closed ever. There was a good mile backup for that sign.

Use it until it runs out.

[grubbers]

And, another idiot. Go learn how to drive, you are creating a traffic hazard.

you're the one who sounds like the idiot in this thread. how the hell is someone a traffic hazard for merging early, unless they just like to cut the wheel at random and make a blind lane change?

seriously, how often do you drive with construction on the roads?

[RiderX]

I merge as late as possible, unless I can pull of an early two lane merge into the faster moving traffic and avoid the pile up caused by the merge and right hand lanes coming together.

[mdp]

As long as people pay attention, maintain speed, and don't rubberneck at the construction going on I don't think it really matters where the merge takes place.

[doughboyshredder]

Turns out WSDOT actually promotes early merging. OMFG I'm the idiot.

Oh wait,

Merging early is still fucking stupid. They promote early merging to try and cut down on agressive merging at the merge point. If everyone would follow state law and merge at the merge point in a zipper like fashion there wouldn't be agressive merging at the merge point.

Rear-end collisions are the cause of most deaths and injuries in work zones. Many occur before the construction work zone begins, where lanes close and cars merge. Drivers cutting in at the last minute cause sudden stops. Inattentive drivers going too fast are not ready for traffic to slow or stop.

Work zone survival tips

• Slow down, pay attention, and stay calm.
• Eliminate distractions.
• Merge as soon as possible.

[focus]

The correct answer is to slow down to a crawl or stop completely approx. 1/4 mile from the merge point and wait for a big enough gap to merge and accelerate into.

[doughboyshredder]

you're the one who sounds like the idiot in this thread. how the hell is someone a traffic hazard for merging early, unless they just like to cut the wheel at random and make a blind lane change?

seriously, how often do you drive with construction on the roads?

There is construction right now at 18 and 167, 167 and 405, 405 and 90 520 and 405, 5 and 16, 5 and 512 etc.... Pretty much every interchange area in puget sound is under construction.


Merging early slows down traffic further back, which can have an effect on other on and off ramps.

Furthermore it promotes agressive driving at the merge point.

Michigan figured it out.

http://www.itslessons.its.dot.gov/it...ent&Query=Home

[doughboyshredder]

The correct answer is to slow down to a crawl or stop completely approx. 1/4 mile from the merge point and wait for a big enough gap to merge and accelerate into.

Absolutely.

[2FUNKY]

Good eening assholes - I'm drunk and just had an arument with he ball and chain. I say theres no better group of smart prixks than the ones on tgr. So answer me this you smartasses:

Lets asy you're drivnin along and a lane is ending due to construction - I say it's better to merfe at the last second, while she says ists better to merge early.

What say the experts?

While you were typing this I merged into your wife's ass!
So merge early or get sloppy seconds.

[grubbers]

Merging early slows down traffic further back, which can have an effect on other on and off ramps.

well judging from your thread about drivers in the left lane, most of the drivers in your state are pussies, so i guess your argument makes some sense.

in massachusetts, where i learned how to drive, merging early generally is much easier and feels much safer because people are more likely to give you space when traffic is actually flowing. the people who wait until the last second to merge are the ones who cause the traffic backups. when i'm going with traffic at 45 and there's some dumbass just before the barriers at a dead stop, there is no way in hell that i'm going to let him in front of me. i also take steps to make sure that i don't become that dumbass. when traffic is already backed up heavily, i just wait until i can merge gradually without having to slow down or accelerate much or at all, which generally means staying in my lane until the merge point.