some damn good IPA's out there

[Name Redacted]

Isn't Pliny the Elder around 65 or 70 IBU?

Nah, it's estimated at around 100 IBU. IMHO IBU isn't a very good determination of hop flavor. It's only one part of the equation.

[splitter]

not an IPA, but not sure where else to put it

Evil Twin's The Perfect Crime Hollow Point


hollow point by chadbrownimages, on Flickr

[stapes]

not an IPA, but not sure where else to put it

Evil Twin's The Perfect Crime Hollow Point


hollow point by chadbrownimages, on Flickr

All I know is it looks good and I can read 10% abv on the label? What's the story behind this one?

Had a FW Union Jack on tap with dinner. Forget how good it is.

[Mustonen]

This year's Hopslam is fucking fantastic. I can't drink enough of this stuff.

Last year's wasn't nearly as spectacular (though still damned good).

[Name Redacted]

Anyone try the Firestone Wookiejack? Pretty damn good black ipa with a healthy amount of rye. Selling bombers for about $5.75 here so not a bad price.

[Hugh Conway]

Anyone try the Firestone Wookiejack? Pretty damn good black ipa with a healthy amount of rye. Selling bombers for about $5.75 here so not a bad price.

it's a good beer, but $5.75 for a bomber of a normal ABV beer is a bad price outside of a bar. It's a ~$4 pint or $11.50 a 4 pack or $17.50 a 6er.


Alaskan's Black IPA is back. Still don't get it.

[BraddA]

^^^ Around here there's virtually nothing coming in at less than $6 a bomber that's really worth discussing.
Its merit as an IPA is debatable, but a black ale displaying the FW label @ 8.3% for $6 is considered a steal by some.
Not positive, but I don't think many high(er) abv 4's or 6's are sold by FW in CO.

[Hugh Conway]

^^^ Around here there's virtually nothing coming in at less than $6 a bomber that's really worth discussing.

Racer 5? Lagunitas Cappucino Stout? How about spending another $ or 2 for a much better beer? Sorry, didn't really care for the WookieJack at all when I had it; lots of rye, not much on the hops. Guess I mised it was 8.3% I don't really care for any of the FW line 'cept maybe Red Nectar for historical reasons

[BraddA]

I don't buy into the hype entirely either, though I do enjoy the Double Jack's approach.

Our west coast offerings are weak. We see a fair amount from Cali's heavy-hitters, but looking for something say, Laugunitas and "lesser," or more appropriately "smaller," is kinda disheartening. North Coast has done alright, and Port the same, but beer fests are really our best shot at getting the left coast goods. And most beer fests suck, so...
Any anything current and exciting outta PDX or Seattle? No dice. We read about it.

Speaks volumes, sadly,

[Bromontana]

I tried a black IPA yesterday and it was v.enjoyable.

Today, several Daytime half IPAs. Fantastic.

I drink a lot of beer and fail to grasp the hate on these varietals. Some people cray-cray y'all.



Frosty Bromontana (brother of Broflacco) approves with the universal stamp of ball approval.

[Hugh Conway]

Why? Because a good, well made porter is > Black IPA imo. So many other varietals are better than an IPA derived one. Oh well.

[Bromontana]

Why? Because a good, well made porter is > Black IPA imo. So many other varietals are better than an IPA derived one. Oh well.

Wut?


.

[~mikey b]

Why? Because a good, well made porter is > Black IPA imo. So many other varietals are better than an IPA derived one. Oh well.

Meh

IPA is way better than porter. Black, red, who cares? IPA ain't about the colouring malts. It's about the fucking hops. I'll take an IPA over anything everytime.



My local beer supplier donated a bunch of beer for a raffle to benefit Owen's ski team at an upcoming race weekend banquet.

Stone Brewing smoked porter with vanilla bean

Stone Brewing smoked porter with chipotle pepper

Beer Valley Brewing's Leafer Madness Imperial Pale Ale

Lagunitas Hop Stoopid

Goose Island Sofie Belgian Ale

Goose Island Matilda Belgian Ale

Deschutes XXIV

[Hugh Conway]

Wut?


.

Yeah, I know, it's a heresy that not everything needs agressive floral hopping.

[~mikey b]

Not heresy.

That's what a lot of people like.

I don't really like porter or stout. Too malty.

I don't really like Belgians. Too yeasty.

I like hoppy flowery spicy piney fruity IPA.

I also like a good saison every now and then.

[Hugh Conway]

you got me wrong. I love a good IPA. Lluuuuuurrrrrvvvv one. Drinking a tasty one. I just like all the other beers too. I like a Porter. Or a good lager - or better a good dark lager! And a well balanced not nuclear sour Dubbel or Trippel. Just seems beers going to IPA and Sour and I like the rest too - 'cept fucking Bier de Mars, that shit's fucking nasty.

[~mikey b]

Maybe we should argue about epoxy?

I don't like other beers. I like IPA.

Isn't this thread about IPA?

[Bromontana]

I really enjoy Belgian style ales and classic lagers. But in An IPA thread, well, ahem. Like there's just, like protocol and stuff.

Maybe this is how seasonal affective disorder affects beer threads?

[Hugh Conway]

Isn't this thread about IPA?

well yeah... and Black IPA and White IPA and Belgian IPA aren't IPAs

QED.

Now back to a good hoppy IPA!

Widmer O'Ryely's back on the Rotator, that shit's tasty. Whatever Kirkwood cross labels an IPA is ok, whatever the wolf creek has in mville t'aint bad as a Pale

[guroo270]

You don't get to 20,000 posts without posting numerous times in threads you know nothing about.

Ipa are great, double ipa's, imperial ipa's and triple ipa's > all other beers. Black lager? Loving that new guiness black, eh? Good for you.

Moylen's triple ipa, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. $9 /bomber. Get over it.

[abraham]

And a well balanced not nuclear sour Dubbel or Trippel. Just seems beers going to IPA and Sour and I like the rest too

Have you tried the petrus pale ale, is that too sour/tart for your taste?

On the ipa front, it seems hop rising now has fewer ibus, which explains why it tastes much sweeter than before. Too bad imo, I thought it was a decent double ipa before, now its less appealing.

Also, I've had cutthroat and trader from uinta on tap at several bars and found a vaguely cheesy/parmesan flavor. I know it has been in more than one batch. Any guesses why I would taste that? Fermenting at too high a temp or something?

And finally good life's descender is an inexpensive and solid ipa in my opinion

[gointhedistance]

If any of you ever end up in Minneapolis for a bit - a new brewery just opened in Northeast, called Dangerous Man.

The Founder/Head Brewer currently has 6 taps, including there House IPA which I thought was very tasty. Something like 6.2 ABV and 40-50IBU (can't recall exactly).

The other beers were great too - the Belgin Strong was pretty popular. The brewery/bar space itself was very cool too-well done interior.

At this point he has chosen to skip the distribution route for now, and stick with in house sales... Meaning you won't see it on shelves. If you are ever up here though, we can grab a pint!

[Name Redacted]

Just as different hops are used in IPAs, different malts can change up the flavor profile and balance out the hops, this goes for the yeast as well. I don't see the point in arguing whether it's an IPA or not, they all have one quality in common, they have more hops than the average brew. Personally, I like the rye mixed with a good citrusy hop like amarillo. By trying these different IPAs, you can learn what you like and don't like when you go back to a traditional (nothing is traditional anymore) IPA.

Once again, a 22 oz of 8.3 ABV, gold medal winning (GABF) black rye PA, for under $6, how can you argue with that?

[uglymoney]

This year's Hopslam is fucking fantastic. I can't drink enough of this stuff.

Last year's wasn't nearly as spectacular (though still damned good).

I tried some of this years Hopslam last weekend. Damn it was expensive! Anyway I was underwhelmed but maybe it was just my mood. Super smooth start to finish and well balanced but underwhelming hop hit and the sweet finish wasn't what my pallet wanted. Probably a better beer for me during the day or in the summer.

[bendtheski]

Found a new seasonal offering from Deschutes at my local packy a few weeks ago; NWPA. A little lighter than their Inversion IPA, but very tasty, and matches the porch furniture...





Alaska's Black IPA is back for Spring, and so far is the only Black IPA I really like. Doesn't seem to have as much rye or whatever it is some of the other Black IPAs have that makes them less than IPAish.