Head Mojo Bindings release too easily

[ghettoperson]

I've got Head Mojo 11's, and they seem to release too easily. This is especially noticeable when breaking heavily on bumpy/icy conditions. I'll break hard, then the inside ski ejects and I go down. I run my DIN at an 8. Now I'm 6'4", 200lbs. Is that too low? In previous years on rentals I've had my bindings at a 9, but when I had my bindings mounted they reckoned an 8 was better for me. I was thinking about turning the DIN up to 10 and see how that goes. The only thing that's stopping me is I've had friends tell me that's too high and 8 is pretty high. So what's the problem? Are the bindings set up incorrectly for my boot?

Skis are 188cm Salomon Teneighty Guns, 101mm underfoot, if that makes any difference.

[DoWork]

Dude, I'm 5'8"/170- my Mojo 11s are set at 8 and I still blow out from time to time. Your bindings should be set higher. I would expect them to eject like a mofo at your h/w at that setting.

[bmg97]

Its either your forward pressure is not correct or you are to big for the binders. I would check the forward pressure setting before you start dinning up. You can crank them all the way but if the pressure isn't right its not going to matter.

[gunniride]

I run my DIN at an 8. Now I'm 6'4", 200lbs. Is that too low?

Umm, seriously?

Troll much?

[bfree]

To me it seems that you've been lucky to only release. I mean when you're breaking heavily and breaking hard, its only a wonder that the bindings don't actually break.

[bmg97]

To me it seems that you've been lucky to only release. I mean when you're breaking heavily and breaking hard, its only a wonder that the bindings don't actually break.

Yea usually womens bindings can do that.

[The Dad]

Yes, your DIN may be too low, but it's impossible to know without your boot sole length.

Tyrolia bindings can be sensitive to forward pressure settings.

[iscariot]

Do you run Avid's or Hayes when "breaking"?

...breaking...must be Hayes


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[karpiel]

Same problem with my railflex, I stay in fine though anything but a hard stop, they just kinda fall off.

[ghettoperson]

Umm, seriously?

Troll much?

Nah, I'm not trolling. I've never had any issues until now with my DIN at 8 or 9. Call me a JONG or whatever, but you think it should be way higher then?

Yes, your DIN may be too low, but it's impossible to know without your boot sole length.

Tyrolia bindings can be sensitive to forward pressure settings.

Boot sole length is 350mm.

[ghettoperson]

Do you run Avid's or Hayes when "breaking"?

...breaking...must be Hayes


sweet troll blog

My Avids break all the time, never had issues with Hayes, but they feel like shit. Formula's are what you want for braking.

Off topic though.

[Tunco]

I would try searching. Click Me!

Food for thought.

[Core Shot]

boot toes worn? tyrolia/fischer/head bindings have low tolerance for boot wear

[beaterdit]

D00d your binders are way outgunned. That's a "light duty" binding, it doesn't even go to 12. You need to be on some heavier duty bindings and make sure they're adjusted properly. Start at the recommended setting and go up gradually by 1/2 DIN stop at a time until you find a happy medium. Don't turn them up when they pop once, give it some time until you're sure you're consistently releasing inappropriately.

Your skis are probably outgunned too, IIRC, the Gun is pretty soft. You're a big guy and could probably benefit from a stiffer ski. Overflexing and extreme rebound of your ski can cause release by exceeding the bindings' ability to react to those forces.

FWIW I'm 5'7", 140 lbs and ski my 916s on 11. I release occasionally, and appropriately.

[iscariot]

My Avids break all the time, never had issues with Hayes, but they feel like shit. Formula's are what you want for braking.

Off topic though.

I have Formula K24 on my XC ride. Very good brakes. Have Avid Juicys 7's on my FR bike and they are good too; better feel and modulation than the Hayes I had previous. Avid bought the design for the Juicy 7's from Formula.

/thread cunting

[splat]

Your skis are probably outgunned too, IIRC, the Gun is pretty soft. You're a big guy and could probably benefit from a stiffer ski. Overflexing and extreme rebound of your ski can cause release by exceeding the bindings' ability to react to those forces.

FWIW I'm 5'7", 140 lbs and ski my 916s on 11. I release occasionally, and appropriately.

DING! FTW

[ThreeRidges]

Just mounted Mojo 15s on an off-season purchase of Q98s. My two options for forward pressure are (1) smack in the middle of the length of scribe lines, or (2) at the absolute last line, indicated the "most" recommended forward pressure. I've skied other Tyrolia bindings with a mid-set forward pressure without an issue, and am not doing jumps, cliffs, park or other high impact stuff (sorry to disappoint folks) but do charge. Which setting would folks recommend---does this binding really want max forward pressure?

Thanks, long time lurker, appreciate all the great info here.

[TAFKALVS]

Start at the middle, if prerelease is an issue dial it up to max forward pressure.

[::: :::]

^^^ I'm sure he appreciates your input, 6 years later.

Ha, yep deleting now, but you caught me

[galibier_numero_un]

Quite a bit > 8 would be my opinion.

I run at 8 and am an old fart, type-III skier - 5'10" 165#, 302 BSL. My DIN calculator settings predict 6.5 (or 7.5 if I drop the age to match my emotional maturity level). I'll easily walk out of my bindings at 6.5. Perhaps I'll drop back down from 8 to 7.5, but you get my point. I run my heels higher than my toe settings.

Compared with the average TGR-er, I don't think of myself as very gnar, but 7.5 to 8 is about right for me.

In my DIN calculator:

Weight > 210 #
Height: 5'11 - 6'4
Age: 17-49 yrs.
Type III Skier
BSL > 331mm
Yields 8.25

Change the height to > 6'5" and you get 10. Clearly, these are approximations: 250 is a lot heavier than 210, 5'11 to 6'4" is a large range, and 350 is a lot greater than 331.

Cheers,
Thom

[PlayItLeo]

Which setting would folks recommend---does this binding really want max forward pressure?

Yes. IME, Mojos/deadbolts/peaks benefit from a bit more forward pressure. If in doubt, bump it up.

[Caucasian Asian]

Priceless. What a dope!
One thing, why redact, if you are going to leave the docket #, the name of the defendants and its counsel? You should have redacted more than you did. Now, we can all find out who this wizard of words is.

Every pair of Tyolias I ever slied benefited from higher forward pressure. Everything from an SL10 to a FreeFlex D10.