GOD BLESS...prayers needed, me thinks...

[The Reverend Floater]

There are some twisted motherfuckers in this world. Gimme 5 minutes and a baseball bat.


http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe...ool/index.html

[Grange]

From the pictures I've seen some of the dads wouldn't need a bat. They a have ultimate sorrow and pure hate in their eyes at the same time. Bad combo to have.

I wonder what Russia's retaliation will be?

edit: their, they're, and there.

[rip]

Originally posted by Grange


I wonder what Russia's retaliation will be?

Declare a War on Terror and then invade Belgium?



seriously though, it seems like Russia handled this as well as they did that theater a few years ago where they ended up gassing a bunch of the hostages.

[The Reverend Floater]

Originally posted by ripley ripper
Declare a War on Terror and then invade Belgium?



seriously though, it seems like Russia handled this as well as they did that theater a few years ago where they ended up gassing a bunch of the hostages.

Bwaahahahaha!


Unfortunately I think they're going to up their "cleansing" of Chechneya, me thinks. Witnesses are saying several of the gunmen were Arab in descent, too, so who knows.

[crashnburn'd]

I heard about this this morning, just a shitty situation. Hopefully it won't give any other sick fuckers any ideas...

[The Reverend Floater]

Originally posted by Grange
From the pictures I've seen some of the dads wouldn't need a bat. They a have ultimate sorrow and pure hate in there eyes at the same time.

Yeah...tell me this guy ain't about to fuck somebody up.

[Buster Highmen]

What are people thinking? Children as hostages? Is this another group of religious nuts?

Like the Dalai Llama said: I hope they get the right guys.

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Originally posted by Buster Highmen
What are people thinking? Children as hostages? Is this another group of religious nuts?

Chechen rebels who want the independence from the Russian Federation. They're rumored to have trained with al Qaeda, which doesn't surprise me -- Afghanistan was a training camp for more than just al Qaeda.

IMO, they went into the school knowing full well they would die. You don't target a school and expect to live, even if your demands are met.

Gotta wonder why the Russians didn't release the prisoners, have them tailed, and once they left the school, arrest or pop some caps in everyone involved. Take the kids out of the equation, eh?

[frozenwater]

Logic doesn't exhist in a situation where grown men and women willingly choose to put children in harms way.

So very very sad.

[Woodsy]

this man really is a warrior, not a "war president"


chechnya just got in deeper than they wanted.

now all acts can be justified.


\gulp

[The AD]

Originally posted by The Reverend Floater
Yeah...tell me this guy ain't about to fuck somebody up.

Yeah, and it looks like he wouldn't mind if he started with the guy who took the picture!

Definitely one fucked up situation.

[Stu Gotz]

An interesting overview of the Russian-Chechnya conflict and why hostage taking is a seen as means to an end.

What drives the separatists?

With that said it seems that the death toll stands at 600. What a horrible tragedy.

[Canuk]

Originally posted by Buster Highmen
What are people thinking? Children as hostages?

I was thinking about this over the weekend, and the sad fact is that taking Russian children as hostages isn't as low as they will stoop - the low point will come when the Russians are out for retrubution, and the Chechnians are hiding behind their own women and children.

What happens in the world to drive people to do things like this? It makes no sense to me whatsoever...

[Woodsy]

this guy just signed his death warrant. Unlike our own platitude in chief, when Putin says he will hunt you down & kill you, he will.



Chechen warlord Shamil Basayev has claimed responsibility for the Beslan school siege in which more than 320 hostages were killed, half of them children, according to a Chechen rebel Web site.

In the statement on Friday, Basayev, Russia's most wanted man, said brigades of the group Riyadus-Salikhin which he heads carried out the Beslan attack as well as bomb attacks that downed two passenger planes and attacks in Moscow, the Web site www.kavkazcenter.com said.

The operation...in the town of Beslan (was carried out by) the second battalion of martyrs under the command of Colonel Orstkhoyev," said the statement, signed by Basayev under his war name of Abdallah Shamil.

Basayev has been fighting Russian forces for most of the last 13 years and has been behind many of the sensational rebel operations carried out by Chechens against Russian targets.

The Kremlin put up a bounty of US$10 million (5.64 million pounds) for him and Chechen leader Aslan Maskhadov in the aftermath of Beslan.

In the statement, Basayev blamed President Vladimir Putin for the tragedy which he said had been brought about by Russian special forces storming the school after two days on September 3 in an operation that had been planned from the beginning.

He said the group, who held more than 1,100 people hostage inside the school, had been demanding the withdrawal of Russian forces from Chechnya and, in the absence of this, the resignation of Putin.

Basayev said the group had told intermediaries who came to the school that the hostages would be given food and water and the youngest children released if the Russian side began to meet their demands.

Putin has ordered a security clampdown throughout the Caucasus region in the aftermath of the Beslan tragedy, but has steadfastly refused to negotiate over Chechen independence with rebel leaders who he says are part of a "terrorist internationale".