S7 Mounting Point?

[Xover]

matt,
I am supposed to get my super 7's in a month (heard that last year as well). Everyone i saw mounted +3 looked way too forward. No tip whatsoever. I never skied em, but i will be mounting center or a one or two behind FYI

MR,

You will be "breaking ground" somewhat around these parts; as I'm sure you are already aware I sincerely wish I could offer you some "make you feel good" advice about your chosen mounting point, but I honestly cannot. There was only one person skiing the Supa 7's on a daily basis last year 'round Alta and I know for sure he don't have internet access nor does he really give 2 shits about commenting on them on the WWW.

Anywho, I really hope you get your's; you are one of the few skiers I know that both deserve and can utilize that ski the way it was made to slay all conditions. Also, to put your mind at ease, you should have no problem getting your pair this year. I had some minor sidewall cracking in mine towards the end of last season and waited till a week ago to run them up to the plant and they told me I'd have to wait a month for the 88's, but that they had plenty of 76's and 95's if I wanted them

My dick has met the turtle the past few years, so I said I'd wait. Wasn't to many moons ago, I'd of said slap those fks's on those Supas and look the fuck out!!!

Good luck and let me/us know how it all turns out; I'm sure you will love them. Cheers!!!

[Baggins]

So here's the official word on mounting S7's:

Take these measurements from the tail of the ski toward the tip. Keep the measuring tape tight & straight.

This is what the 0 mark should measure:
195 length = 89.3 cm
188 length = 86 cm
176 length = 80.4 cm
166 length = 78 cm

If you never ski switch, or only rarely, mount your binding back -2 cm's:
195 length = 87.3 cm
188 length = 84 cm
176 length = 78.4 cm
166 length = 76 cm

If you ski switch in Powder, mount your binding forward +3:
195 length = 92.3 cm
188 length = 89 cm
176 length = 83.4 cm
166 length = 81 cm

About mount line changes from year to year:
The original prototype had a different mount line compared to the production version. So if any of you have a rep's demo, athlete's ski or were able to get a pre release hookup from Rossi (Jan 2008 to end of season) the 0 mark on that ski was at -2. For example:
0 mark for prototype S7 in 188 length = 84 cm
0 mark for production S7 in 188 length = 86 cm

I've had a demo binding on 188 S7's from Jan 2008 to today. With a demo binding you can try both mounts and 8 times out of 10 people like 84 cm.

Cheers

[ticketchecker]

After laying the tape to my new 188's I find the lines aren't equal on both skis. Make sure to check yours out before handing them over to a shop. Also discovered that one of my skis has a slight twist to the tail. Maybe Sage likes 'em that way

[bossass]

FWIW, I just got my brand new Rossignol System 7 Mancini Pro Models. In case you don't know, it's the tele version of the 09/10 S7. Different graphics, same ski. Size 188.

The Mancini only has one mounting line, that is unmarked. Upon visual inspection and putting it next to an 09/10 S7 Barras 188cm*, the mounting line on the Mancini is located where the "0" line is on the S7 Barras.

Also, Rossi is sold out of the 188 Barras, but still has the Mancini in the warehouse (hence me having a set).

*Pair of demos I "liberated" last season from the Powder Edit Staff that they are asking me to return.



P.S. I'll let ya'll know how the 195s ski when my 10/11s show up in a couple weeks......and we get a bunch of snow.

[hoarhey]

Rock you like a hurricane!

[smmokan]

^^^ Those are badass topsheet graphics.

[yiu-han]

Anyone who knows how big the difference in flex is between the 195 and 188?

[MeatHeadEC]

So is the idea that last year unless you landed switch in pow alot mounting at 84cm was the way to go. I had mine at 86 maybe a bit below that loved em, got a new pair on warranty since I rocked the sidewall, not sure where to mount now. I don't ski switch in pow, but don't want to end up feeling like i have no tail for airs.

[D(C)]

So is the idea that last year unless you landed switch in pow alot mounting at 84cm was the way to go. I had mine at 86 maybe a bit below that loved em, got a new pair on warranty since I rocked the sidewall, not sure where to mount now. I don't ski switch in pow, but don't want to end up feeling like i have no tail for airs.

I have my 188s at 86. I only had 1 day on them (last day of the season in some good slush). I definitely would not want to go any farther back considering the amount of taper and rocker. The tails felt very small compared to the tips at that mount. I'm surprised to hear people prefer them at 84.

[yiu-han]

On my 195's the 0 mark measures 90,2 cm with direct pull from the tail.

I will mount on my 0 mark and remount if I don't like it.

[ulty_guy]

fwiw- I skied the 188's on demo at Zermatt mounted at Zero last weekend in about 6-12 of fresh with a firm base (me 5'10" 165). I tend to like things mounted further back (explosiv lover), but in the deeper pockets, I wished I would've been back at -2.

[D(C)]

I have my 188s at 86. I only had 1 day on them (last day of the season in some good slush). I definitely would not want to go any farther back considering the amount of taper and rocker. The tails felt very small compared to the tips at that mount. I'm surprised to hear people prefer them at 84.

Alright, I just had 2 pretty good days on my S7s. Yesterday was at Baker in chopped pow and today was at Whistler in deep, heavier pow. 0 (86 cm) feels money. I did some small drops and there is plenty of tail and I wouldn't want any less tip than I have in deeper snow. I did feel I had to keep a relatively neutral stance in the really deep stuff so for those who really want to drive the tips, you may want to go back at -2, but then I think you would lose a lot of tail. 0 seems like a good compromise.

[alberto casaro]

i ve seen rossi chart,but is 0 the recommended point,like-5 for armada arg or jj?

[cowdog]

Baggins, do you have the recommended mount measures for the "women's S7," the Voodoo Pro BC 110, 166cm? The mrs. picked up a pair that we'll mount soon.

Thanks!

[grapedrink]

Cheers

well while we're at it, do you have any info for the 186 koopman s3's? will be for out east, no switch skiing/landings, pretty much a pow/tree and possible touring ski, thanks!

[robnow]

i ve seen rossi chart,but is 0 the recommended point,like-5 for armada arg or jj?

I would say yes. On the 195 S7, the 0 line is -6 from center so it would make sense that the 188 would be about -5 from center.

[cowdog]

cowdog and grapedrink,
on page 2 of this thread I posted a PDF that contains the mount points for all 2010 Rossignol flat skis. after I posted it, I felt kinda bad because I figured that was the end of this thread. I was wrong...

Well that would have required me to read page 2 ...

Thanks, I'll go check that out.

[D(C)]

I would say yes. On the 195 S7, the 0 line is -6 from center so it would make sense that the 188 would be about -5 from center.

I really thought the +6 mark on the 188s was centre mount, which would make the 0 line -6 from centre...

[robnow]

I really thought the +6 mark on the 188s was centre mount, which would make the 0 line -6 from centre...

Could be. I was assuming it would be a slightly shorter range on the 188 vs the 195 as I've only measured the marks on the 195. My bad.

[Ira]

Here is a pretty detailed one pager similar to what was posted earlier...

http://image.dynastar.com/Rossi/Ross...es%2009-10.PDF

Ira

[Xover]

cowdog and grapedrink,
on page 2 of this thread I posted a PDF that contains the mount points for all 2010 Rossignol flat skis. after I posted it, I felt kinda bad because I figured that was the end of this thread. I was wrong...

... this serves as your "official" welcome to TGR Zo BWA!!!

don't lose sleep over it and just continue to "let the blind lead the blind" but for all means don't let "those" keep you from posting up a nug now and again

.... see you soon to shove a shot of Sauz down your throat

[alberto casaro]

last year i had armada arg,and mounted at -6,they felt like you could move a little forward,so thinking that s7 has bigger shovel and smaller tail,probably they are suited for +3 mounting,to give their best.

[alberto casaro]

and i would say you have to consider the behave of s7,just indeep pow or at least good pow,and you cant think about traditional skiing with them,more pivot and slash,if not the squad are much better

[alberto casaro]

...not talking shit,i ski 100 days per year,everywhere,with different type of skiing,and last year i had almost 40 days of pow around us.just to say that probably for mounting you need to think the ski newschool.anyway i m going insane with the right point,i will risk at +3.help!

[SeatownSlackey]

last year i had armada arg,and mounted at -6,they felt like you could move a little forward,so thinking that s7 has bigger shovel and smaller tail,probably they are suited for +3 mounting,to give their best.

and i would say you have to consider the behave of s7,just indeep pow or at least good pow,and you cant think about traditional skiing with them,more pivot and slash,if not the squad are much better

...not talking shit,i ski 100 days per year,everywhere,with different type of skiing,and last year i had almost 40 days of pow around us.just to say that probably for mounting you need to think the ski newschool.anyway i m going insane with the right point,i will risk at +3.help!

^^^ JONGY conversation w/ self reminded me of Swingers.



UPS just delivered my Supa's.
Anyone else put holes in their 195's yet?

Im still thinking 0 to +1.5.