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    Good history of Nespresso, if you care.

    https://www.theguardian.com/food/202...ng-environment

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    FYI self roasters,
    Howell's Fired Coffee has an Etsy store. Local guy. I've exchanged a few emails with him and ordered several times. He has a smokin deal on last year's stock of some swanky Ethiopian bean, like 3 bucks and change if you buy 12 lbs. Roasted some and I definitely don't mind that they're older.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    Good history of Nespresso, if you care.

    https://www.theguardian.com/food/202...ng-environment
    Nepressso is not great but not bad, i wouldn't buy one but I drink it when i'm visiting family or they are often in coffee/waiting rooms
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattig View Post
    FYI self roasters,
    Howell's Fired Coffee has an Etsy store. Local guy. I've exchanged a few emails with him and ordered several times. He has a smokin deal on last year's stock of some swanky Ethiopian bean, like 3 bucks and change if you buy 12 lbs. Roasted some and I definitely don't mind that they're older.
    Interesting, what are you roasting on? I've had very hit or miss experiences when trying to chase deals (been burnt a few times from cheap orders at Burman's), so I usually just stick to Bodhi Leaf and Sweet Maria's.

    Is it just some generic guji wet process?

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    How'd you guess?

    https://www.etsy.com/listing/7063583...a-guji-grade-1

    Anyway, I've paid nearly 6 bucks a pound for similar beans at sweetmarias. Not epic, but good for sure.

    Roasting on a behmor, and itching to upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattig View Post
    How'd you guess?

    https://www.etsy.com/listing/7063583...a-guji-grade-1

    Anyway, I've paid nearly 6 bucks a pound for similar beans at sweetmarias. Not epic, but good for sure.

    Roasting on a behmor, and itching to upgrade.
    Behmors are sweet, especially considering their batch size for how cheap they are. Profiling is kinda overrated too. Beyond basic considerations I don't think it makes too big a difference.

    That said, upgraditis is real. The Aillio Bullet has been the object of my desire for a few years now, but in the words of my wife, "you want to spend $3k on a fancier roaster so that you can mail more coffee to random strangers on the internet?"

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    Behmor came out with a new one that is reminiscent of the bullet. Might try that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattig View Post
    Behmor came out with a new one that is reminiscent of the bullet. Might try that.
    yeah the Jake looks cool, but I'd still go with the Bullet over that. let other people be the beta testers. plus imo the IRBT sensor on the bullet is a total game changer for roasters of any size (including big commercial diedrichs).

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    Based on their website, I'm sold. Know anyone who has one?

    A 12 minute first crack on 2.2lbs of beans is where I want to be, for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgapp View Post
    Behmors are sweet, especially considering their batch size for how cheap they are. Profiling is kinda overrated too. Beyond basic considerations I don't think it makes too big a difference.

    That said, upgraditis is real. The Aillio Bullet has been the object of my desire for a few years now, but in the words of my wife, "you want to spend $3k on a fancier roaster so that you can mail more coffee to random strangers on the internet?"

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    Let it be known the strangers greatly appreciate your generosity. I don’t know how many of us there are but maybe work a side hustle and the Aillio soon pays for itself
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    Someone ought to do a roasting TR in here. I have zero interest in doing it myself (yet), but am very curious about the process.


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    I find myself needing to replace my setup (PID Silvia + Rocky) and therefore wanting to upgrade it. If I recall, there are a few mags who did just that so I’d love some pointers. Whatcha got, what do you like/dislike about it?

    Looking for dual boiler or HX, ability to plumb later, PID, and stepless grind (or at least way more nuanced than stock Rocky)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigKuba View Post
    I find myself needing to replace my setup (PID Silvia + Rocky) and therefore wanting to upgrade it. If I recall, there are a few mags who did just that so I’d love some pointers. Whatcha got, what do you like/dislike about it?

    Looking for dual boiler or HX, ability to plumb later, PID, and stepless grind (or at least way more nuanced than stock Rocky)
    On the grinder I moved from a Rocky to the Sette 270wi and am very pleased. Easy to use and adjust, super clean, dosage weight accuracy, and just generally fast and efficient. I appreciate the speed and convenience and saves a bunch of clean up. Grind quality seems on point but this is the fanciest grinder I’ve used so there could be more upside on the market I am not privy to. Ive always been able to dial in great extraction quality by my standards. No regrets on this investment to date.

    Upside to Rocky is dosage scale, speed, less mess and finer grinding capabilities. With the Rocky at zero I sometimes have to up dosage weight to slow extraction. I’ve always been able to dose at 18g w the Sette and have not come close to topping out the grind range. I dig the Rocky too though but you get a ton more capability for the extra investment into the Sette.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigKuba View Post
    I find myself needing to replace my setup (PID Silvia + Rocky) and therefore wanting to upgrade it. If I recall, there are a few mags who did just that so I’d love some pointers. Whatcha got, what do you like/dislike about it?

    Looking for dual boiler or HX, ability to plumb later, PID, and stepless grind (or at least way more nuanced than stock Rocky)
    +1 for the Sette, it's a great grinder and the price/performance ratio on it is insane. If you want to go a little bit nicer I would strongly recommend a Niche Zero. There's a case to be made that the Niche Zero is as good of a grinder as most mortals will ever need.

    For espresso machines, I started with a Silvia + PID, then went to a Vibemme Domobar Super HX for a few years, until I finally broke down and pulled the trigger on a used Bianca. HX machines are great, I absolutely loved mine, but a DB machine is a true game changer - the amount of control you get with PID + DB, plus the absolute ease of use, is unreal. I doubt I will ever buy another machine in my life - the Bianca is just a dream to work with. If you're buying a new machine, I think they are close enough to warrant just spending the extra dough on a DB - look at like a Profitec Pro 600 for an entry level DB machine, or even a Bianca. If you're buying used, there are a ton of great deals to be had on used HX machines... the price difference is pretty palpable in the used market.

    If you do go with a DB, get a flow profiler. My two cents anyway.

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    T, sipping on some Yemen at the moment. The dank tobacco intensity is no joke. Super stoked to try it but definitely not a daily driver type experience. I could see it being challenging to blend with as it’s flavor profile would likely steamroll anything you try to blend it with. Thanks again!

    Would love to go PID + DB in some future time but going to ride my HX machine into the ground first, if I ever do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doremite View Post
    T, sipping on some Yemen at the moment. The dank tobacco intensity is no joke. Super stoked to try it but definitely not a daily driver type experience. I could see it being challenging to blend with as it’s flavor profile would likely steamroll anything you try to blend it with. Thanks again!

    Would love to go PID + DB in some future time but going to ride my HX machine into the ground first, if I ever do.
    yeah well built heat exchangers (e61 in particular) are very much Buy It for Life machines - unless you take advice from a jong on TGR and fuck them up . plus, they make superb espresso. i think my lelit edges out my old HX in small cup quality, but by a very small margin.

    and agreed on yemeni coffee. it's pretty nuts. people who do blend with it will do so around 25%, because that's all you need to get that incredible body and mouthfeel. fun fact - the oldest coffee blend in the world is "mokha java", mokha being the main growing region in yemen, so a natural-processed yemeni coffee blended with a wet-hulled (giling basah) java or sumatran coffee. the reason why we think of mokha as a chocolate drink is because yemeni coffees are so brooding and chocolatey.

    you could try something really bright, or i like to do 70% ethiopia sidamo dry processed and 30% yemeni. that's kinda cool.

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    My local roaster does a “new world Mokka Java” Ethiopian Yirgacheffe and Indonesian Java blend given how little comes out of Mokha Yemen these days. Haven’t tried it in awhile. Just might need to soon.....
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    I like my coffee beans like I like my women...brooding and chocolatey


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    Quote Originally Posted by tgapp View Post
    If you're buying used, there are a ton of great deals to be had on used HX machines... the price difference is pretty palpable in the used market.
    This is one of the most consistently recurring themes of the thread. Now, i don’t really know shit about shit. But when I see mags touting this or that machine as being a good option, I sometimes do a quick eBay search out of curiosity. What I usually notice is:
    1. There doesn’t seem to be much used shit out there.
    2. It’s expensive as fuck.
    3. The more basic stuff is totally clapped out (does every Sylvia machine end up looking like a rusty New England Ford?)



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    Must be coffee brewing stains cuz everything you can see from the out side on a Sylvia is SS so they don't rust

    If there are too expensive maybe you just want to drink instant ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jm2e View Post
    This is one of the most consistently recurring themes of the thread. Now, i don’t really know shit about shit. But when I see mags touting this or that machine as being a good option, I sometimes do a quick eBay search out of curiosity. What I usually notice is:
    1. There doesn’t seem to be much used shit out there.
    2. It’s expensive as fuck.
    3. The more basic stuff is totally clapped out (does every Sylvia machine end up looking like a rusty New England Ford?)



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    1. fuck ebay
    2. fuck ebay again
    3. good machines hold their value but you can still find deals. also deals are relative. you probably won't find a $3k machine for $500, unless you're stupid lucky, but i've seen some amazing deals.
    4. use https://www.home-barista.com/buysell/ for coffee shit, or http://coffeegeek.com/forums/members/buysell

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    Quote Originally Posted by jm2e View Post
    This is one of the most consistently recurring themes of the thread. Now, i don’t really know shit about shit. But when I see mags touting this or that machine as being a good option, I sometimes do a quick eBay search out of curiosity. What I usually notice is:
    1. There doesn’t seem to be much used shit out there.
    2. It’s expensive as fuck.
    3. The more basic stuff is totally clapped out (does every Sylvia machine end up looking like a rusty New England Ford?)



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    How much are you looking to spend? A lot of mags touting a sweet deal maybe talking about paying $1,000 for a $2,500 or $3K machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgapp View Post
    Super helpful. Thanks.


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    Every time I look at this thread I see this pic and drool:




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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    Must be coffee brewing stains cuz everything you can see from the out side on a Sylvia is SS so they don't rust
    Apparently some of it is cheap chrome plate stuff that flakes off. Especially around the brew head. I’ve seen a bunch of them on eBay

    If there are too expensive maybe you just want to drink instant ?
    I’m happy with my “cheap” espresso setup. I feel like it makes a pretty good drink for my current skill & knowledge. I think about possibly upgrading, but a 5-10x increase in investment is a long way off.



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