the answer to "WTF is wrong with my boots?"

[riff]

Worth a try! I did that with my F1LT’s, I’d forgotten. [emoji120] Thanks


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[plugboots]

Worth a try! I did that with my F1LT’s, I’d forgotten. [emoji120] Thanks


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I think I need to do this with my F1 LT’s. In other words put some foam in the boot on the top of my instep. What kind of foam did you use?

[riff]

Plug, what we’re talking about is a relatively thin but firm slice of foam under the heel/insole, to lift the heel higher in the heel cup of the boot. Worked for me and addresses the issue I had with heel slop and inadequate instep hold with the F1LT.
As for your need to add to the instep, i did that with my F1LT’s as well. thin, firm foam- i used bike handlebar tape. Worked well.


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[riff]

Plug, what we’re talking about is a relatively thin but firm slice of foam under the heel/insole, to lift the heel higher in the heel cup of the boot. Worked for me and addresses the issue I had with heel slop and inadequate instep hold with the F1LT.
As for your need to add to the instep, i did that with my F1LT’s as well. thin, firm foam- i used bike handlebar tape. Worked well.


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[plugboots]

I’m gonna play with different versions of all of those. Thanks.

[John_B]

I’m gonna play with different versions of all of those. Thanks.

Plug I've got these from a Tognar order years ago that I no longer use and you are welcome to them. The height at the heel is about 7/16" and 4.5" long.

[plugboots]

Plug I've got these from a Tognar order years ago that I no longer use and you are welcome to them. The height at the heel is about 7/16" and 4.5" long.

Thanks. I have two other little heel wedges that I’ll try first, and then I may contact you about those.

[Duffman]

Big toes are losing circulation and getting numb (but def feel very cold to the touch , so circulation rather than nerve compression) in a tight shell fit Technica Cochise 130 27.5 punched adequately for width at the met heads and with an older Intuition ProWrap liner. Size 11 foot (measures a little over 28cm) This is happening in both my shorter left foot and my longer right foot so I don't think it's from direct length pressure on the toe.

I have a fairly high instep and had intense pressure on the bony top.of the medial instep with the stock liners which I couldn't use. The older ProWrap 28 feels tight there but no painful pressure, just good and tight. I don't really buckle that 2nd buckle at all and only loosely buckle the toe . Decent enough vertical room over the toes and enough wiggle room in the toebox. Toes take a little time to defrost when I take a break and pull them out of the boot. It's really only effecting the big toes.

Is it likely this frozen toe issue is caused by medial instep pressure or something else? Best way to remedy this if so?

[mntlion]

does it happen when you are inside with the boots on too? Sounds like instep circulation issue

1) grind the black plastic on the tongue over the instep a bit thinner

2) wear thinner socks

3) Grind bootboard down 1-2mm thinner.

4) Any better with reversing the folds of the overlap the other way and NOT buckling the 2 toe buckles at all?

[t-the-east]

Well, this is probably too broad of a description, but my wife hates her new boots and I’m looking for any tips. She got a pair of Dalbello Asolo 95 last season. The ski shop had some magic machine that pairs her foot with the correct boot width and size. She’s had the liners cooked twice but it doesn’t seem to help much. Her main problem is that her feet are falling asleep after not very long, 30-45 minutes. She added custom footbeds as well, no difference. She’s played with the buckle tightness, even when they are noticeably loose her feet still fall asleep.

So, does this shop not now what they are doing? They are a well known shop and fit many ski racers, as we live in a very racer oriented town. Were they trying to unload some inventory? Are the boots just too narrow?

Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. Might take them over to Burlington to see if we can get a second opinion on fit. Thanks fellas

[mntlion]

Well, this is probably too broad of a description, but my wife hates her new boots and I’m looking for any tips. She got a pair of Dalbello Asolo 95 last season. The ski shop had some magic machine that pairs her foot with the correct boot width and size. She’s had the liners cooked twice but it doesn’t seem to help much. Her main problem is that her feet are falling asleep after not very long, 30-45 minutes. She added custom footbeds as well, no difference. She’s played with the buckle tightness, even when they are noticeably loose her feet still fall asleep.

So, does this shop not now what they are doing? They are a well known shop and fit many ski racers, as we live in a very racer oriented town. Were they trying to unload some inventory? Are the boots just too narrow?

Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. Might take them over to Burlington to see if we can get a second opinion on fit. Thanks fellas

does it happen with ?

1) thinner socks?

2) inside (not skiing)

3) with NO footbed?

4) heating done with the buckles CRANKED down, like on max?

sounds like it needs more instep volume (taller boot)

Also grinding the boot board can help.

[Duffman]

does it happen when you are inside with the boots on too? Sounds like instep circulation issue

1) grind the black plastic on the tongue over the instep a bit thinner

2) wear thinner socks

3) Grind bootboard down 1-2mm thinner.

4) Any better with reversing the folds of the overlap the other way and NOT buckling the 2 toe buckles at all?

Using a ultralight near liner sock already.

It doesn't happen indoors just hanging in my house ,I can feel the pressure but it's the combo of the cold and impaired circulation I think. Because once I lose the toe, I usually have to take it out of the boot to get it to come back. Even sitting in a warm lodge the circulation doesn't return easily once it's gone .

I broke the toe buckle a couple weeks ago so it couldn't really tighten on the right foot and still had it happen.

[mntlion]

Using a ultralight near liner sock already.

It doesn't happen indoors just hanging in my house ,I can feel the pressure but it's the combo of the cold and impaired circulation I think. Because once I lose the toe, I usually have to take it out of the boot to get it to come back. Even sitting in a warm lodge the circulation doesn't return easily once it's gone .

I broke the toe buckle a couple weeks ago so it couldn't really tighten on the right foot and still had it happen.

sounds like 1 & 3 are the solutions

but strange that it doesn't happen inside. Ask a Dr re circulation issues one day

[Duffman]

sounds like 1 & 3 are the solutions

but strange that it doesn't happen inside. Ask a Dr re circulation issues one day

Will try and spot heat the intuition over the instep prominence and compress it way down, and a zeppa grind. Thanks.

[mntlion]

grind plastic also works well. you can get 1-2mm from that as well.

[t-the-east]

does it happen with ?

1) thinner socks?

2) inside (not skiing)

3) with NO footbed?

4) heating done with the buckles CRANKED down, like on max?

sounds like it needs more instep volume (taller boot)

Also grinding the boot board can help.

Using a ultralight near liner sock already.

It doesn't happen indoors just hanging in my house ,I can feel the pressure but it's the combo of the cold and impaired circulation I think. Because once I lose the toe, I usually have to take it out of the boot to get it to come back. Even sitting in a warm lodge the circulation doesn't return easily once it's gone .

I broke the toe buckle a couple weeks ago so it couldn't really tighten on the right foot and still had it happen.

I think you poached my advice bro [emoji23]
I’ll ask her these questions and see if we can get this dialed in. Having her feet fall asleep ultimately affects my skiing. We can’t have that..

[PhishingME]

Why would my calfs be sore after a handfull of runs on new boots?

[mntlion]

Why would my calfs be sore after a handfull of runs on new boots?

too tight around the calf?

too much F lean on the boot?

skiing too much back seat?

[PhishingME]

Interesting, not tight, maybe too loose? They did feel like a lot of fwd lean. Lange 140 xt3.

[mntlion]

is it the boots angle (stance) or the boots fit (calf tension) ?

[Duffman]

sounds like 1 & 3 are the solutions

but strange that it doesn't happen inside. Ask a Dr re circulation issues one day

So I tried your reverse the flaps of the wrap liner idea. And while the fit in the ankle area and shin was wonky, ,it did take a bunch of pressure off the medial instep bump area. What do I do with that info?

As far as inside vs outside , it seems to be impairing but not fully cutting circulation to the big toes. I sikkied the local bump with the kids in upper 40s warmth the other day and still lost some toe feeling and had cold big toes. But in the heated house can wear for hours without that happening

[GoldenBC]

too tight around the calf?

too much F lean on the boot?

skiing too much back seat?

Boots too soft is a big one for this too. Does it feel like they are bruised or pulled/sore from use?

[P.A.B.C.]

Please help!

Problem: My last three pairs of boots have been sized 24.5 (I have a narrow size 8 foot with a very high arch), but with every pair I have developed slop and heel lift in my right foot, which is smaller. I always end up cranking the buckles down and then my feet go numb.

I am looking for a pair of hybrid resort/touring boots, and I feel like a 23.5 might work, especially if I can punch out my bigger foot a bit.

Now I know the answer is "go to a bootfitter." Well, I have been to seven bootfitters and none of them have aggressive touring boots in small sizes. It seems like they just throw me into the only 24.5 touring boot that they carry (last be damned) and then tell me that it would work, despite the fact that I can move my foot around and the boots arent even packed in yet.

I can't keep driving all over the northeast looking for an honest bootfitter.

Right now I am thinking about ordering boots in a 23.5 and just hoping that one will work. I have tried on the Nordica Unlimited in 23.5, and it felt snug and relatively comfortable, but unfortunately there wasn't an expert to tell me if it was the right boot or not. Any recommendations for a narrow touring boot that would work with a high arch?

[PhishingME]

Think its the stance. Seem like a bit more forward lean, than I'm used to.

[GoldenBC]

PABC

The Nordica Unleashed is a mid volume with a fairly high volume ankle. Have you tried the atomic Hawx ultra 130 xtd or the tecnica zero g in a 23? The Hawx has the tightest ankle in the game with a roomier forefoot and the zero is the next tightest but with a less shaped heel pocket and a very roomy toe box. But are your tightest options. If you need any more hold above what they offer, get an aftermarket liner like a Zipfit GFT.