the answer to "WTF is wrong with my boots?"

[mntlion]

try the expert booster.

[GoldenBC]

And for a different opinion I would suggest the World Cup if you look for any support from your strap. The elasticity is the same flex as the expert but it has a lock out after a certain amount of travel. I find the lock out helps keep the strap supportive. Without it I find you have to over tighten the expert and it cuts off blood flow. The overflexing of the expert tends to make them bag out quickly.

[kkashkooli]

Anyone got a set lying around they want to sell? Looking at ~45shipped online for a set.

Reach out to bamboocoreONLY and/or ptex1.

[ey_allen]

Boot masters of TGR: I need some internet advice for a guy that’s a couple hours from a shop I trust.

I have Fischer Transalp Tours that I bought last year. I used them on a few short tours but primarily skiing inbounds with kids. I’m headed out on a hut trip in March so I finally started paying attention to them and made a few changes. I have probably 30-40 days on them.

I added the spoiler for more forward lean (might go back on this but I tend to get backseat with a heavy pack). I also got some footbeds I’ve used in the past for better arch support.

All in all this has helped alleviate some rubbing, toe bang, and the heel pocket feels more snug.

The downside is I now am getting some pressure from the lower buckle rivet on the top of my foot. This is most noticeable standing still with risers on flat terrain or when sitting on a lift with my skis hanging.

I didn’t mold the footbeds so maybe that’s my best option to flatten them out a bit, but I’m wondering if I should shove some foam around that area. They are pretty snug so I’m not sure how much padding I can add there.

Any advice/thoughts appreciated.

[mntlion]

add a donut of padding around the ouch spot. If that feels better on ouch, but overall too tight, get shell stretched out.

[El Chupacabra]

Update on Atomic Hawx Ultra 130 flex issues: swapped the original non stretchy straps back onto the boots, and skied them today. Conditions were 2-6" over firm, some ice crust, some deeper, and cold temps - truck said 17* in the parking lot. I can still fold the boot in half, but it's better (more supportive) than with the stretchy Booster straps.

Will give it another couple of days before deciding. These "130 flex" boots are much much softer than my old 130 Garmont Shaman.

Self quoting...

I'm giving up on the Hawx. Too soft flex and not low volume enough.

Going back to the Shaman, need to get a little punch done, and enjoy the burliness again.

[phil_dirt]

I was having issues with my hawx ultras feeling sloppy around my instep/front ankle area, and was frustrated after putting three tubes of cork into each tongue on my zipfits. As a last ditch effort I took the cuffs off the clogs, heated the front of the ankle/instep area, and wrapped a ratchet strap going from the instep to the back of the heel, and cranked it down. Let the whole thing cool, and now I've taken a good deal of space out of the instep, pushing my heel back into the boot. Skied em one day and they feel significantly better.

A while back I molded the shells because I was cranking my third buckle so tight that it was squeezing the sides of the clog and cramping my foot. I'm pretty sure this opened up my instep too much.

[El Chupacabra]

I have several pairs of Shamans, and picked up the Hawx Ultra 130 alpine boots last season because I have the Ultra XTD 130 for my touring boots - and was pretty satisfied with the fit of those for touring. The shell fit is pretty good, and they're much lighter than the Shaman, which was attractive.

Unfortunately, the Hawx alpine boot is just too flimsy for inbounds use. The flex is soft - I can fold the boot standing still, and if I hit something hard, it folds in half. It's fine in powder, but can't drive a big ski or hold up at speed. I'm disappointed.

[phil_dirt]

I have several pairs of Shamans, and picked up the Hawx Ultra 130 alpine boots last season because I have the Ultra XTD 130 for my touring boots - and was pretty satisfied with the fit of those for touring. The shell fit is pretty good, and they're much lighter than the Shaman, which was attractive.

Unfortunately, the Hawx alpine boot is just too flimsy for inbounds use. The flex is soft - I can fold the boot standing still, and if I hit something hard, it folds in half. It's fine in powder, but can't drive a big ski or hold up at speed. I'm disappointed.

Yeah, before i changed the liners i could fold the boots, and they don’t rebound back super fast either. I ski pretty centered, so with zipfits they work pretty well. If I charged harder i would definitely look elsewhere.

[ey_allen]

add a donut of padding around the ouch spot. If that feels better on ouch, but overall too tight, get shell stretched out.

Not sure I follow. Maybe you can simplify this for me…

But thanks. I’ll try that. Not sure I can source good foam here but I’ll see what I can do before I need to make a trip to Seattle.

[mntlion]

Not sure I follow. Maybe you can simplify this for me…

But thanks. I’ll try that. Not sure I can source good foam here but I’ll see what I can do before I need to make a trip to Seattle.

basic camping mat type foam will work. Ideally higher density and 2-3mm thick.

cut it into a donut shape, and put it over your foot where it hurts and see how that feels

[DEVO]

Help with weird Tecnica zero g tour pro issue....

I don't have many days in these in the boots, but overall fit is great. I replaced the stock footbeds, first with Superfeet copper, but they were too thick. So I went with Sidas. Uphill is great, but skiing down I sometimes get a wicked cramp of my middle two-three toes, especially on my right foot. I do feel like I may have a little too much room in the toe box. Not sure if that would cause the cramping?

[slcdawg]

Just picked up a pair of Technica Mach 1 130 LV's and got two days in a row on them. Fit is good, I had one punch for a wide right foot. Felt great the first day - I noticed the stiffness of a new boot and had more control ripping softish bumps and steeps all day. Big performance improvement and happy with the purchase. Felt snug with a couple of minor hot spots, but not bad enough to have to take them off in 5-6 hours of skiing.

Second day the conditions were very firm and I struggled with fatigue. Could be from having a relatively big day the day before, and from firm, unforgiving conditions. I don't think the boot is too stiff based on how much I liked it on day 1. Wondering if replacing the cam strap with a booster strap may help?

[mntlion]

Help with weird Tecnica zero g tour pro issue....

I don't have many days in these in the boots, but overall fit is great. I replaced the stock footbeds, first with Superfeet copper, but they were too thick. So I went with Sidas. Uphill is great, but skiing down I sometimes get a wicked cramp of my middle two-three toes, especially on my right foot. I do feel like I may have a little too much room in the toe box. Not sure if that would cause the cramping?

try a 2-3mm shim under the toes and see (folded/cut trail map works well) If you like the fit, but not the new ramp angle it makes, use a full shim


what is the shell fit in mm? more then 15-20 I would re-think the size

[mntlion]

Just picked up a pair of Technica Mach 1 130 LV's and got two days in a row on them. Fit is good, I had one punch for a wide right foot. Felt great the first day - I noticed the stiffness of a new boot and had more control ripping softish bumps and steeps all day. Big performance improvement and happy with the purchase. Felt snug with a couple of minor hot spots, but not bad enough to have to take them off in 5-6 hours of skiing.

Second day the conditions were very firm and I struggled with fatigue. Could be from having a relatively big day the day before, and from firm, unforgiving conditions. I don't think the boot is too stiff based on how much I liked it on day 1. Wondering if replacing the cam strap with a booster strap may help?

ski one more day before buying and changing parts around

[DEVO]

try a 2-3mm shim under the toes and see (folded/cut trail map works well) If you like the fit, but not the new ramp angle it makes, use a full shim


what is the shell fit in mm? more then 15-20 I would re-think the size

Thanks. Will try that. Shell fit is good.

[slcdawg]

ski one more day before buying and changing parts around

Thanks, will give it a go for another weekend.

[Duffman]

Any advice on how to sand down a zeppa on a newer Cochise without breaking anything for dummys with no proper equipment? Just need a bit more instep room for freezing toes and have been unable to get into see a fitter

[Stuntmonkey]

Gurus of TGR:

Roxa R3W. This is my 3rd season on them. I've had a bunch of stretching in the toe box for my weird ass feet, however I'm now struggling with my boney shin in one leg. To the point where it feels like someone is taking a hammer to my shin after 4 hours of skiing.

It feels like my shin is smashing against the upper strap support. Is the solution to just get more padding in there or am I special?

[mntlion]

Any advice on how to sand down a zeppa on a newer Cochise without breaking anything for dummys with no proper equipment? Just need a bit more instep room for freezing toes and have been unable to get into see a fitter

belt grinder?

[mntlion]

Gurus of TGR:

Roxa R3W. This is my 3rd season on them. I've had a bunch of stretching in the toe box for my weird ass feet, however I'm now struggling with my boney shin in one leg. To the point where it feels like someone is taking a hammer to my shin after 4 hours of skiing.

It feels like my shin is smashing against the upper strap support. Is the solution to just get more padding in there or am I special?

odds are special, but not just for boots?

how many days on the liners? most liners are 50-100 days and then kinda tired. If this is about that timing, and it WAY good before, odds are a new liner will help,

[Stuntmonkey]

odds are special, but not just for boots?

how many days on the liners? most liners are 50-100 days and then kinda tired. If this is about that timing, and it WAY good before, odds are a new liner will help,

Yeah, probably getting close to 100 days. Dammit.

[mntlion]

Yeah, probably getting close to 100 days. Dammit.

easy fix. just get some liners from intuition ?

[DarthMarkus]

My previous boot fitting experience tells me I know the answer to this question, but I second guess myself since I've been out of the game for a bit:

Fischer RC4 Pro LV. All on my right leg - Medial malleolus pressure, as well as some on my Navicular. Tongue migrates to the inside of my tibia while I ski. I already have a varus wedge on the medial side. My best guess is my cuff needs alignment to fill up space on the medial side of my tibia. Either shim or use the not-included cuff alignments from Fischer to push the medial side of my cuffs closer to my tibia.

[mntlion]

My previous boot fitting experience tells me I know the answer to this question, but I second guess myself since I've been out of the game for a bit:

Fischer RC4 Pro LV. All on my right leg - Medial malleolus pressure, as well as some on my Navicular. Tongue migrates to the inside of my tibia while I ski. I already have a varus wedge on the medial side. My best guess is my cuff needs alignment to fill up space on the medial side of my tibia. Either shim or use the not-included cuff alignments from Fischer to push the medial side of my cuffs closer to my tibia.

yes, odds are you are correct.

assuming you have a good custom footbed already