Second Annual EC Roll Call Thread

[skatecow45]

stowe was pretty good today but i'll only give it a B+.

Got to the mountain for first chair and the quad was shutdown. Lapped angel food a few times (it got tracked out hella early with the quad shutdown). snow was deep in angel food, but a little heavy and gritty. found some nice hucks in there.

from there we did kitchen wall. we were hoping the cloud would roll off the summit so we'd have better visibility but it stuck around all day. nonetheless we hiked it, hit hourglass and called it a day. pics to come

[lionelhutz]

Misc Shot from Magic this AM.... of redline runout shot from the lift.....



Magic Didnt suck today, I could only hit it till 1130 as I had to be back in flatlands for a 230 meeting/call. Snow was a bit heavier than the opening day storm, but still didnt suck....was nice sunny in the AM. Good Mellow mid-winter day.


Note had to attach pic as I'm an intraweb tool.......if this is a no-no take it down (sorry)

a) Fixed it for you.
b) Saw this over on alpinebone....

[lionelhutz]

stowe was pretty good today but i'll only give it a B+.

Got to the mountain for first chair and the quad was shutdown. Lapped angel food a few times (it got tracked out hella early with the quad shutdown). snow was deep in angel food, but a little heavy and gritty. found some nice hucks in there.

from there we did kitchen wall. we were hoping the cloud would roll off the summit so we'd have better visibility but it stuck around all day. nonetheless we hiked it, hit hourglass and called it a day. pics to come

Sounds like you took a ride on the WHAAAA-Bulance.

[rdennhs]

awesome vid, is anyone skiing tomarrow?

[Phall]

places in stowe were skiing quite well, some were not, tomorrow should provide good things in the am.

[roark]

a) Fixed it for you.
b) Saw this over on alpinebone....

Which is worse, promoting the coolest mountain in S VT on another forum or admitting you lurk there?

[lionelhutz]

Which is worse, promoting the coolest mountain in S VT on another forum or admitting you lurk there?

Somebody stole some weather report I posted here and posted it over there. I check there to make sure it doesn't happen again.

But no...really...I love lurking there. The bumps at sundown are the SHIT.
Maybe I can link to some sweet POV of douches heel sliding their snowboards at Huntah - BRAH!

[pepperdawg]

a) Fixed it for you.
b) Saw this over on alpinebone....

a)Thx
b) ya i know....

[jtran10]

places in stowe were skiing quite well, some were not, tomorrow should provide good things in the am.

x2

Was a bit underwhelmed today, but oh well. The lift closures/weird openings didn't help things any. Tomorrow will be $$ though.

[lionelhutz]

Snow needing to dry out a bit?

[Phall]

Not necessarily, it was quite windblown, even in some/most of the popular woods shots, depending on the aspect, it was quite good, but would have been way better if it hadnt been so wind effected.

[jtran10]

The windpack wasn't too bad to ski, but there was potential for it to be tits deep if we didn't have a hurricane last night.

That said.......

[roark]

Somebody stole some weather report I posted here and posted it over there. I check there to make sure it doesn't happen again.

Understood. Stealing one's work is a load of shite. Especially when your reports have been way better than NOAA.

Get your butt up to Magic so we can thank you for all the great work.

[gravitylover]

Let's not make any calls on next week's event right now. Ensemble means have exhibited an eastward trend and the tight amplification of the trough makes it impossible to predict exactly where the any low will track.

Well here's what I'm thinking as of now: This has all the indicators of a good Archambault event including the fact that it's leading into the NAO going negative. What this typically means is there isn't anything forcing the LP to head for the coast or just off the coast (yes I read DT and HM's posts this morning ) which might mean it comes in warm. Any models right now are going to have a hard time with this as they always do with an AO/NAO change. I guess the fly in the ointment will be what happens with the wave tomorrow and whether it sets up in the north Atlantic or keeps moving on.

I hate "modelology." The first meteorology course I took was over 20 years ago and have taken several since so I prefer looking at the weather before the models because that's how I was taught. I'm not as good at reading and extrapolating model info as I could be but I think I have a pretty good understanding of hemispheric dynamics and like to put my ideas out as far ahead of time as I can. In this instance I hope I'm wrong but feel much better about where this storm leaves us for the rest of the month rather than what good it will do in the short term.

[lionelhutz]

Well here's what I'm thinking as of now: This has all the indicators of a good Archambault event including the fact that it's leading into the NAO going negative. What this typically means is there isn't anything forcing the LP to head for the coast or just off the coast (yes I read DT and HM's posts this morning ) which might mean it comes in warm. Any models right now are going to have a hard time with this as they always do with an AO/NAO change. I guess the fly in the ointment will be what happens with the wave tomorrow and whether it sets up in the north Atlantic or keeps moving on.

I hate "modelology." The first meteorology course I took was over 20 years ago and have taken several since so I prefer looking at the weather before the models because that's how I was taught. I'm not as good at reading and extrapolating model info as I could be but I think I have a pretty good understanding of hemispheric dynamics and like to put my ideas out as far ahead of time as I can. In this instance I hope I'm wrong but feel much better about where this storm leaves us for the rest of the month rather than what good it will do in the short term.

I respect those points. A few thoughts:
There wasn't any forcing with the pre-halloween storm which I took a track this storm could take. Both storms were storms derived from the phasing of energy from the northern and southern branch, which bent around a deeply amplified 500Mb trough. I see the same set up here albeit with a the potential for a tripple phased storm.
Secondly there exists the potential for significant upslope snow with this system that, even if the storm comes in warm could amount to a major pay day along the Spine and the Northern ADK.
Third-very much will depend on actual location of phasing. I strongly disfavor systems making hard turns...and so if formation is deep down by the florida panhandle and tracks up over DCA I really don't like to cross back over the mtns and ride into western NYS. Now it could be a sub 990mb system so it could give a shit less about the apps BUT I wouldn't bank on it.
lastly- I would in some respect throw out other storms this winter...this is a different animal (both by strenght and formation). The only storm so far this year to match this was the 10/28 system....

[gravitylover]

Secondly there exists the potential for significant upslope snow with this system that, even if the storm comes in warm could amount to a major pay day along the Spine and the Northern ADK.


Third-very much will depend on actual location of phasing.

Which is why I added in my thoughts about that exact thing.

The triple phase aspect is what has me concerned. Too much energy and the trough goes negative and the storm heads for the cold air. In this case the cold air is still WNW of the main system so that's where it goes. I know you know it but some here might not - The primary function of storms like this is to draw heat out of the southern latitudes so they head for the coldest area nearest the storm.

[lionelhutz]

- The primary function of storms like this is to draw heat out of the southern latitudes so they head for the coldest area nearest the storm.

One thing I wonder about- and it involves your heat exchange idea..For the deep cyclogen. to occur wouldn't you want the system to be over water at some point? Land is a poor conductor of heat and for a deep powerful low to develop OVER mountain terrain seems a bit off to me. Personally were this storm to take the westward track I'd exptect it to be weaker.

[nihiles]

LASER thanks for the vid... gives me a peek at what to expect for saturday.
ok so its two little glades and a run under the chair. no wonder its so easy for all you guys to meet up and not having to mess with trail maps saves so much time!
ok so ill see you there. ill be the one that you dont recognize. green pants, yellow jacket and that black icebreaker headband someone loved so much. ill be on line chronics. the old ones with the dead birds on it.

anyone going to plattekill tomorrow? ill be wearing the same shit. RDEN come through!

[samthaman]

The windpack wasn't too bad to ski, but there was potential for it to be tits deep if we didn't have a hurricane last night.

That said.......

tilting the picture won't make the run steeper....

[roark]

ok so its two little glades and a run under the chair.

That's right. There is absolutely nothing on the west side. Don't bother.

[gravitylover]

Usually yes. In this case it has been pretty warm down along the gulf coast area and there is some latent heat waiting to be released. I haven't looked to see where the southern jet is coming from right now but that may be another source. That trough east of HI should be sending some heat northeastward.

I actually have to get back to work so can't really focus on this right now. I work really late tonight but would like to start a weather thread, maybe in snow conditions section later.

[djspookman]

That's right. There is absolutely nothing on the west side. Don't bother.

LOL.. yah, nothing anywhere for that matter. only flat groomed trails

[ArmadaBC]

Usually yes. In this case it has been pretty warm down along the gulf coast area and there is some latent heat waiting to be released. I haven't looked to see where the southern jet is coming from right now but that may be another source. That trough east of HI should be sending some heat northeastward.

I actually have to get back to work so can't really focus on this right now. I work really late tonight but would like to start a weather thread, maybe in snow conditions section later.

You and LH are blowing my mind, phasing, Archambault event....I'm going to have to do a lot of googling.

[nihiles]

i know im too new here to know shit but it sounds like LH and GL might start a beautiful thing together...

[yemntftb]

I heard killington went off today with 20+ inches...wish I didnt have class.