Axial 2 Bindings

[volklpowdermaniac]

Ok, searched around TGR and the net. couldn't find an exact answer, so i'll ask a quick one

which (if any) of the following bindings are not lifted

Rossi Axial 2 140 ti

Rossi Axial 2 SAS 140 ti

Rossi Axial 2 Scratch 140 ti---- which claims in some product blurbs to "plate free".


my z12ti's on my bridges are flat, no lift. like em a lot.

sorry if this is a stupid ass question, but its late and im tired of searching aimlessly

[skibumnh]

Ok, searched around TGR and the net. couldn't find an exact answer, so i'll ask a quick one

which (if any) of the following bindings are not lifted

Rossi Axial 2 140 ti

Rossi Axial 2 SAS 140 ti

Rossi Axial 2 Scratch 140 ti---- which claims in some product blurbs to "plate free".


my z12ti's on my bridges are flat, no lift. like em a lot.

sorry if this is a stupid ass question, but its late and im tired of searching aimlessly

Did you try Google? I found this info in about 30 seconds....

The Rossignol SAS2 140 Ti Freestyle/freeride ski binding is designed for use with the Rossignol SAS series of skis and other high performance twin tip and freeride skis. With 7 points of contact to the boot, the Rossignol SAS2 ski binding has proven to be one of the most trusted bindings for freestyle use. This binding also comes with a Wide Brake option so it fits all the Rossignol SAS twin tip skis along with any ski up to about 130mm's in the waist.

Features:
- Toe 13mm Total Height
- Heel 18.5mm Total Height
- Axial 2 Heel
- Free Absorber Toe

http://www.untracked.com/p2584c26b9-...e_options.html

The Rossignol Axial 2 Binding is one of the better All-Mountain bindings available. It has been popular for the past few years and many skiers swear by it. The biggest difference between the Rossi SAS2 ski bindings and the Rossi Axial2 ski binding sis the height of the bindings. Everything else is the same except for color. If you want a binding with some lift so it is easier to get the ski on edge we would suggest the Axial 2 Binding. If you want a ski binding for skiing in the park, pipe, and powder we would suggest the Rossignol SAS2 Bindings.

The bindings forward pressure has been increased 30% over the Axial Binding, which dramatically enhances the interface between boot and binding. The increase of pressure influences ski behavior, which improves rebound and responsiveness.

The 40% increase in torsional stiffness translates into less play between the boot and binding and a dramatic improvement in the transfer of power to the snow. The new dual action III toe piece has a reinforced housing in high stress areas, which improves the overall structural integrity. This reinforced housing on the Rossignol Axial bindings allowed Rossignol to strengthen the torsion bar interface, which facilitates greater torsional rigidity in the toe piece.

The Look/Rossi design also has better contact with the boot than regular hinge-type heel pieces- when you click into an Axial binding, you feel noticeably more connected to the ski than you do in most bindings- steering impulses are instantly transmitted from boot to ski.

Rossignol and Look combine that classic turntable heel with an ultra-modern, ultra-compact multi directional release toe piece that also has high elastic travel and a solid feel.

Rossignol warranties it’s bindings for four years from date of purchase.
If you mount a new pair of Rossignol skis with Rossignol bindings, Rossignol will add a year to the ski’s warranty.

Features:
- Toe 20.5mm Total Lift
- Heel 26mm Total Lift
- Axial 2 Titanium
- 45mm elastic travel
- Brake Options

The scratch is a freestyle binding with low lift, and the SAS replaces it this year, so you could gather that the lift height of the SAS and Scratch are probably pretty similar.

[Bandit Man]

Also, last year's scratch (at least the 140) had a rubber insert under the binding to help absorb shock on landings, which adds to the stack height a tad.

[The Dad]

TTBOMK, the lifters are separate pieces and need not be installed as long as your shop uses shorter screws. But maybe someone with better tech steeze (Marshal?) than I knows for sure.

[volklpowdermaniac]

I saw that search as well. But I don't have the tech background to maKE sense of those total lift measurements. thats why I asked for a little help

[skibumnh]

Fair enough. Starting to show signs I've been hanging out here too long.

[volklpowdermaniac]

So the answer is....which one is flat mount...., I know I'm a dumbass, but I have the teachers and parents to tell me that, from you guys, a simple answer would kick iass

[skibumnh]

So the answer is....which one is flat mount...., I know I'm a dumbass, but I have the teachers and parents to tell me that, from you guys, a simple answer would kick iass

SAS or Scratch is the flattest mount, but as was previously mentioned, you can mount any of them without the risers and either use shorter mount screws or grind down the standard ones.

It should be pretty straightforward looking at the numbers, the SAS/Scratch are the same binding, new name (as far as I can tell). Being that lower values clearly indicate a shorter distance between the boot and the ski, we can gather that they have a lower overall mounting height than the All Mtn binding. Both have +5.5mm in the heel vs. toe to give you some ramp and aid in forward lean.

The real answer is it doesn't really matter, and if you couldn't determine which is the flat[ter] mount from my previous post, then I doubt you'd notice the difference.

[volklpowdermaniac]

SAS or Scratch is the flattest mount, but as was previously mentioned, you can mount any of them without the risers and either use shorter mount screws or grind down the standard ones.

It should be pretty straightforward looking at the numbers, the SAS/Scratch are the same binding, new name (as far as I can tell). Being that lower values clearly indicate a shorter distance between the boot and the ski, we can gather that they have a lower overall mounting height than the All Mtn binding. Both have +5.5mm in the heel vs. toe to give you some ramp and aid in forward lean.

The real answer is it doesn't really matter, and if you couldn't determine which is the flat[ter] mount from my previous post, then I doubt you'd notice the difference.

word up.

[Sicbith]

The SAS and Scratch bindings have a small rubber abosorber under the toe to reduce the ramp angle, and offer some shock absorbtion. Other than that the bindings have no lift.
The SAS binding toe has a new non-movable AFD. It also uses the same heel as the SAS 150, or Freeride 150 with the worm drive forward pressure adjustment. It's a stronger binding than the Scratch 140.