ski boot canting

[cberry]

Having come from a racing background, and with plenty of knee alignment/orthodics/knee problems both in skiing and in other sports I've always used either a canted boot (ground sole) or those annoying wedges under the binding. I'm now looking to buy new boots and have spoken to a rather dim tech who claimed that modern boots with a good insole completely negate the need of canting. Of course if this was the case that would be awesome, but I'm more than a bit skeptical.

[axebiker]

I think your description of the tech was probably spot on. If you've always had that type of adjustment to your gear, you'll probably notice it without, and to be honest, I would question his claim of needing nothing other than an insole - sounds a little "don't bother me now" to me. "Completely negate"?? Doubt it... He just wants to sell you some boots and get you outta there.

That said, I've never been "professionally critiqued", so I may have similar issues. I've never skied with the "help" of any canting and so forth beyond adjusting the cuff of my boots. I just ski new gear and get used to it. I've had no problems so far.

Quit racing and get on soft deep snow - problem solved!

[mntlion]

the current lange fuilds have an optional cantable sole (1.5' deg)

if it works for you then great, use a shim or boot cants.

[RobT]

Absolutely false. I'd say he was trying to avoid doing the canting, or didn't know how. Footbeds can help with lots of allignment issues, but don't negate canting. Cuff angle adjustments help too, but ground soles is the only way to go imo. It is amazing how far off of flat most boots are to start with too. I think it is worth it even if you don't need major cant adjustment.

Rob

[DropCliffsNotBombs]

Don't grind your new boots. Canting under the binding works best in my experience.

[Garrett]

Don't grind your new boots. Canting under the binding works best in my experience.

Your experience is worthless.

Boots canted properly and then lifted are good to go for the life of the boot, in every ski you ski in, and with no stupid cat tracks to worry about...just screw on new lifters every year. Done.

It is amazing how far off of flat most boots are to start with too.

Yep. Even if you aren't going to cant boots, it is worth squaring them up. A shop with the right tools can do it in five minutes.

[cberry]

Boots canted properly and then lifted are good to go for the life of the boot, in every ski you ski in, and with no stupid cat tracks to worry about...just screw on new lifters every year. Done.

awesome advice. I had mine canted and raised, but never replaced the riser and they got so rounded my sole got f***ed, hence the need for a new pair

Quit racing and get on soft deep snow - problem solved!

Quit years ago. I'm learning the ways of the BC but have the hard-boot/aggressive technique of a racing background and like my equipment set up right

think your description of the tech was probably spot on.

Still struggling to find a good shop in central London...

[DropCliffsNotBombs]

[QUOTE=Garrett;1658791]Your experience is worthless.

Thanks for the jab. Most canted boot soles that I see are in various states of collapse. In fact, I usually fail most canted boots in release tests. They most often fail both visually and functionally.
Just sayin' is all!

[Garrett]

Most canted boot soles that I see are in various states of collapse.

It isn't rocket surgery. Maybe people in your town are skiing on garbage boots with screw on soles or some nonsense.

[DropCliffsNotBombs]

It isn't rocket surgery. Maybe people in your town are skiing on garbage boots with screw on soles or some nonsense.

Hey dumbass. You really shouldn't do meth and post idiotic comments at the same time! I see mainly high-end ski boots here. Lots of them... from all over the world. I'll say this again for anyone that might find my experience useful. Grinding, then screwing thin plastic plates onto your ski boots is going to drastically reduce their lifespan! Trust me. Even though I'm not from Alb. NM!! Garrett, You are a trouble making ,wanna-be, poseur, tool!

[axebiker]

Yesssss.....

JONG-FIGHT!!!

Get some, boys..

[rungsp]

cberry......Central(ish) London....I have used profeet in Fulham and have been 100% happy (and so have others I know).
All they do is bootfitting....way, way better than S&R etc etc.

[Garrett]

I see mainly high-end ski boots here.

With fucked up soles, apparently.

I love how you keep saying "ground soles". I haven't seen anyone "grind" a boot sole in about 10 years. Maybe that is your problem. Keyser tools, motherfucker.

Trust me.

Why the fuck would anyone do that? You have proven again and again that you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

[cberry]

cberry......Central(ish) London....I have used profeet in Fulham and have been 100% happy (and so have others I know).
All they do is bootfitting....way, way better than S&R etc etc.

Just gave them a call and they don't do canting, but they do seem to have a pretty good service on offer- I think I may check them out and could always get the things ground elsewhere. Alternatively, does anyone have any rec's for good bootfitters in Chamonix? I'm there all of next week.

[H-wood]

Footworks (i think that's the name) in Chamonix- and there's probably others.

you need to get your kit dialed by pros, near the hill so you can come back in and make adjustments. sounds like you want/need a highly qualified bootfitter- don't go into a shop in London and look for the most sophisticated boot service.

[cberry]

Footworks (i think that's the name) in Chamonix- and there's probably others.

you need to get your kit dialed by pros, near the hill so you can come back in and make adjustments. sounds like you want/need a highly qualified bootfitter- don't go into a shop in London and look for the most sophisticated boot service.

good rec, shop seems pretty on top of things though I'm a bit worried by their failure to post prices on their website....anyone know what their prices are like? maybe still cheap compared to london...