Anyone that has skied both of these boots and know a bit about them have any input on their differences? I have been told that the cross is the exact same boot but slightly softer.
Any recommendations? Basically torn on which one to get.
Anyone that has skied both of these boots and know a bit about them have any input on their differences? I have been told that the cross is the exact same boot but slightly softer.
Any recommendations? Basically torn on which one to get.
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Get the Pro. You can turn it into the Cross by using the right combination of tongue & footbed. You can't go wrong there!
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I have my pros set up like a cross. I used the soft boot board and soft tongue. In hindsite I could have saved a few dollars and bought a cross, but then I wouldn't have steezy lime green boots!
If the prices are similar, get the pro. That way you can try the different tongues and boot boards out on the hill.
I think everyone here will agree that paying extra for the ID, heat moldable liners is well worth it.
Pro for the reasons posted here. More options. Either way, go ID. The Cross will have the Silver liner, Pro, the gold. Silver=Thermoflex like comfort, the Gold, beefier and stiffer.
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Same here...even at my 195 6'2" I thought the black (pro) tounge was too stiff for me. Then again I was touring on it early season, thinking of trying it again.
Regardless, I came off a flexon and the Krypton "cross" is still a stiffer boot (imo) than any flexon I've skied.
Good boot either way.
And yes, the ID liner IS worth it.
I own both. I got a Pro after 3 years with the Cross. I ran the Cross with the stiffeners, so the switch to the Pro made sense.
As everyone else has said, get the Pro b/c it gives you more configuration options.
Example: I run the Pro with the stiff tongue, soft footboard and the larger stiffener in the upper position. Sometimes , I switch to the smaller stiffener on a powder day.
Also, my Crosses were not ID and my Pros are ID. Get the ID liner. very comfortable.
the pro costs more because it comes with the stiff and soft flex tongues and footboards. the cross costs less because it only comes with the soft, but you can always buy the stiff seperately if you change your mind down the line.. it'll just probably cost you more in the end. if you need stiff get the pro, if you're pretty sure you won't need stiff then get the cross and save some money.
list to flexon phil he knows his stuff. i have the pros, and use the softer footbed and tongues, and absolutely love em. get the pros with the id liners, stiffer, firmer liner(gold ones) than the cross liner(silver ones), but super comfortable and warm. after skiing these, i have no desire to go back to conventional boots. can't go wrong with the pro, you can soften it up if need be, plus the lime green color is super stylee. go with the pro with the id liner, u won't be disappointed.
Is there any difference (besides the color and flipped over buckle) between the Krypton Cross and the Rampage? Specifically I'm thinking about the flex, but if there's anything else, well ya know...
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and you can stiffen up the cross if need be. why spend the extra money to get the stiff boot only to convert it to the soft boot? you're basically paying extra for the color. if you need stiff get the pro, if you don't and you want to save some money, get the cross. it won't say 'pro' on it but you'll survive..
I bought Rampages, and got a pair of intuition liners that had been molded once before for half price (guy bought them for a poorly fitted boot and they did not help) and a pair of stiff tounges from the Pro's. Jacked up the spacer on the back of the upper cuff and it worked great. I am 230lbs and 6'5" and they are plenty stiff for me now. Saved about $250 bucks i figured as well
Pro's w/ intuition $749
Custom Foot Bed $100
Rampage w/Intuition $450
stiff tounges from Pro's $60
Custom foot bed $100
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If i was to get the cross, can my current intuition powerwrap be remolded to work in these boots, or is there something special about the ID liner that dalballo is using?
Anyone know what the flex difference is between the rampage and the krypton cross? From what i read the cross is just the pro without the stiff tongue, but no comparison for the rampage. anyone anyone?
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Check out the dalbello website.
It lists the Pro as having a flex of 100-140.
Cross 90-120.
It says that the Pro has a "medium" and a "stiff" tongue.
The Cross has a "medium"
What I get from this is that the Pro can not be made as soft as the Cross. Even with the "medium" flex tongues. Either there is a difference in the two "medium" tongues or there is a difference in the shells aside from the tongues. Or maybe the different liners make up the difference?
The Rampage is described as having a "soft" tongue. There is no flex index listed for the Rampage, but one could assume that it is softer than the Cross. Once again I'm not sure if there is a difference in shells aside from the tongues. I have heard different things from different people. I'd like to here what a Dalbello rep has to say.
[QUOTE=Jim J;1642894]Check out the dalbello website.
What I get from this is that the Pro can not be made as soft as the Cross. Even with the "medium" flex tongues. [QUOTE]
I don't think this is true. Pro with its soft tongue + rubbery footbed = Cross. I don't think the shell is different.
So Pro in its softest setting is the same as cross if you use the same liner.
so go to a shop and fuck around with the two and see for yourself
Thanks again for the KILLER hook-up Nate!!
I've been tinkering with them, but not wearing them. I've got all day tomorrow for that!! Too cold to do much else...![]()
Enjoy the brews --you earned it!! I really appreciate all you did. Hope I can make it to the demo on the 2nd.
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I hope you can get there too. it would be a fun beer filled day.
that flex scale is very different that other company's, i free ski in a cross, and i race in a nordica doberman 150.
There is no way any pros can begin to be almost as stiff as my 150s, and i dont know what you would want them to be, i hate jumping off stuff, blasting through crud and going fast through moguls in my race boots
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I just bought the Rampage last week. The flex index is 80-110. With all the flex control inserts put in place it is a super stiff boot. The liner is real comfortable but I can see myself getting the intuition liner once it packs out. I believe any of the kryptons would be a great choice. My only complaint is that I have to really crank the middle buckle down to get my heel locked in. Has anyone else had this issue?
do you have a narrow heel? i"ve noticed that the heel cup in the all the kryps is rather large. put a heel lift in and that should suck up that extra volume.
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