best hestras?

[vinnay]

so i have been using some marmot ultimate ski gloves, and i want to get a pair of gloves that don't go half way up my arm. looking at the short gloves from hestra or maybe the cloudveil trollers.

what do people generally prefer between hestra vertical cuts and hestra xcr short?

any advice would be much appreciated.

[Bertier]

I use the XCR Short - about 50 days on mine and they still look pretty new. I chose them over the vertical cuts mostly because they're cheaper and I didn't notice much difference. Dexterous as fuck.

[gretch6364]

Vertical Cuts are the way to go....best Hestra makes...also the most expensive...also the new Morrison Gloves are really cool. It is best to see the gloves in person and try them on. The Hestra site will give you names of dealers

[schindlerpiste]

I, also, use the XCR Short. I think that the vertical cuts have a better wrist guard/band. This will allow less snow into the glove. However, I tighten the wrist band on the XCR, place the sleeves of my mid-layer and shell over it. I have never had a problem with snow and/or wing seeping into the xcr short.
Also, vertical has Outlast fleece and Thermolite vs. Fiberfill polyester fiber insulation for the XCR. (A toss up).
Either way, both great gloves.

[mojorisin]

I couldn't be happier with the vertical cuts. They fit perfectly, are dexterous as fuck (this is indeed true), not at all bulky, and are just warm enough. I'd still sweat through them on really warm, sunny spring days (mine are black) or hiking uphill, but they're great for most of the winter. Oh yea, there are also a bunch of extra leather reinforcements in all the right places.

[vinnay]

cool, thanks for responses. also, on hestra website it says the black verticals are army leather, and the other colors are cowhide. is one better? this is confusing.

[allenataylor]

I think the army leather is goat leather. Its what my 3 finger heli skis and heli ski xcr's are made of, its bomber stuff. The xcr heli skis probably have 100 days on them with no issues. I don't know if any of the short versions let you take the line out but that is very nice to be able to do. I can only take the liners out of my 3 finger mitts but it makes them much more versatile and easier to dry.

[weibo]

Sight hijack but how much do the gloves stretch out? I'm betwen an 8 and 9 and I don't want too much room.

[Kied]

I've also got the vertical cuts - best gloves ever. They do stretch a bit, so I'd go a little smaller if you're on the line.

The goat-army leather is a bit stiffer and essentially more durable than the cowhide yellow. Personally I've tried both and like the soft feel and dexterity of the cowhide. They probably don't last as long as the black's, but it's a personal thing.

The ONLY downside, is... they're not waterproof. You can put all the snoseal/ treatment you want on them and they're not waterproof. Hasn't bothered me except for the worst wet days. On a typical storm day they won't soak through until the very end (3:00ish).

[mojorisin]

The ONLY downside, is... they're not waterproof. You can put all the snoseal/ treatment you want on them and they're not waterproof. Hasn't bothered me except for the worst wet days. On a typical storm day they won't soak through until the very end (3:00ish).

True, but they are leather. That's exactly why I like them. My hands sweat too much for any membrane.

The only, albeit HUGE, downside in my opinion is their price tag. Are they worth $140 when you can buy some cheap leather gloves for $16 that aren't really all that different? I don't think so. I do think they're worth the difference that I paid, which is still fairly large.

[Tele'ndaboat]

Stay far away from the trollers, My 2 pairs lasted 1/2 a season, I know a guide who's only lasted about a month and the list goes on for folks who had them fall apart.

[marshalolson]

all those gloves are GAT. spend you money on something else and get some kinco leather ski gloves from clipsavers for about $19 and put some nixwax on them. best gloves ever.

[Tele'ndaboat]

^^^I agree

[allenataylor]

I got a pair of kincos for 9 bucks from a local hardware store. You totally got ripped off marshal. I just got them for work gloves though, I really like the gigantic cuffs of the hestras which I have a 2 pairs of (I'm also NSP however and hestra hooks it up). Still though I would even buy them retail, I have never seen more durable gloves (I only have experience with the army goat leather, not the cowhide) I have a friend who worked a few years full time ski patrol and is going into his second year as a lift mechanic and still has the same pair of heli ski gloves, minimal duct tape on the thumbs.

[F#*k you cat]

I have a question about sizing also
Army Leather Heli Ski

I bought two pairs figuring I would return the one that did not fit. The smaller size (8) is tight and I am wondering if I should go with that size. The larger (9) fits comfortable brand new. Kinda airy in the fingers though. They pull on far easier than the 8's which may be a benefit on the chair. I am wondering if the liner will stretch-break in. If so then (8)'s may be the way to go. If the liner-glove does not say improve 1/2 a size then the 8's may be too tight. Hoping for a little assistance from the collective.

Does anyone have any experience with this glove? Melanie can you chime in???
Straight from the website
Army Leather Heli Ski


A modern classic with many functions, and Hestra's best-selling glove. A longer glove for powder snow lovers who need extra durable and warm gloves. Can be combined with different linings.

Outer material
Upper section made of wind and waterproof, breathable Hestra Triton/polyamide fabric. Proofed Army Leather goat palm.
Lining
Removable Bemberg polyester lining with Quallofill/Fiberfill insulation.
Features
Eagle Grip. Snow lock and Velcro closure. Snap hook. Handcuffs.

Recommended shell and liners

[Buster Highmen]

I have a question about sizing also
Army Leather Heli Ski


Does anyone have any experience with this glove?

I'm on my 5th year on a pair, size 9 which didn't stretch for me. I use the lightest poly liner which developed a small tear between the thumb and index finger in year 3. No tape yet. Best gloves ever, even if I don't like it doggy style.

[Professor Chaos]

all those gloves are GAT. spend you money on something else and get some kinco leather ski gloves from clipsavers for about $19 and put some nixwax on them. best gloves ever.

Ill second that. The best pair of gloves Ive ever had and still have were plain all leather gloves with a fleece liner which I got for $20 at Marks Work Wearhouse. Them plus snowseal = gold.

[snoboy]

3rded on the Trollers. I buy a pair a year, and accept that they are disposable. Nice while they last, but the leather blows through eventually.


I can't find Kinco around here.

[barney]

I went from the Ultimate Ski glove to the Army Leahter Heli ski glove and I like them better. For Kinco, Hasco industrial supply is the place.

[Conundrum]

get the dextrous ones

[altasnowbirdripper]

I have the Skicross & absolutely love them. Size 11 is a XL fits sort of snug at first but they do break in and form perfectly to your hand. Anything Hestra makes is worth the money.

[telecincy44]

all I know is that some tend to be dextrous....as fuck.

[truth]

I just got my Vertical Cut FR's and rocked them yesterday at Targhee in a very wet freezing schmeeb rain mist kinda thing. They kept me warm and dry all day although today they felt like they needed some of that leather balm on em. Super comfy gloves that should stretch and mold to perfection. They are replacing a 12 year old pair of Ruesch that finally died. Hopefully these will prove to be as durable.

[fool]

Anybody use the new Pro Models Hestra just introduced? A lot of them look similar to the Vertical Cut Freeride.

[bfree]

anyone use the xcr helis? i'm thinking the gauntlets might be too long.

what makes the vertical cut/xcr short style different/better?