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Thread: Review: Line Prophet 90

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    Review: Line Prophet 90

    Ski: Line Prophet 90 186cm 125-90-113 19.5 meter sidecut
    Binding: Solly 916 Lab Ninja
    Boot: '08 Solly Race 120 flex
    Location: WROD @ Snowbasin, UT
    Conditions: Groomed man made snow with the guns running full force, very carvable with some areas scoured to ice and others holding 6 inches of crud.
    Me: 6'1" 210# of sexy time hawtness.
    Quiver: 189 Moment Ruby, 185 Rossi B3 (now the B4), 195 Praxis (still waiting), 185 Nordica Blowers (sold).

    These skis rip. Very lively and very quick edge to edge. Riding them at mach speed allowing them to seek their true radius they are on absolute rails. Could not find a speed limit on them today and I was trying to. Very stable ski, even when moving from sun to shade on a cruded groomer. Just stand on em and they keep the intended line. In the fall line they squirt from turn to turn. Load em up and they launch you into the next arc. Tons of power in these boards. Feels like a true GS race stick. Snapping off really short turns on the flats took some effort but on a steeper pitch they do what you want them to. Only issue might be str8lines as they really like to be on edge. Might just be the race ready tune I have on them though. After far too long on noodles it's nice to be back on a real ski. I bought these as my go to stick for non-pow in-bounds action and it seems they will be perfect. The fact that they are really purty is a nice bonus.



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    Nice. I demo'd them during an icy day last year and came away really impressed. And this year's top sheets are so much better than last year's.

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    What had you been using as a comparison?
    Gravity. It's the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by axebiker View Post
    What had you been using as a comparison?

    See "quiver".

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    Nice review truth. I just got a pair of these as well for my full-time EC sticks, and they rail. I've only skied them for one day on the WROD, but I have been very impressed with them; they are much more responsive than the Line Chronics I used last season. I agree that they aren't the best for short turns, but in 186 I wasn't really expecting them to.

    That being said, you and I need to stop building the same quiver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truth View Post
    See "quiver".
    Jesus... Vicodin is great.
    Gravity. It's the law.

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    truth

    Moments are noodles?

    I know nothing about them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chitown Pow View Post
    truth

    Moments are noodles?

    I know nothing about them

    No...the B3's are fucking noodles. The Blowers were soft. The Moment Ruby's are also soft, but that's what you want in a pow ski. They are TITS in deep snow.

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    I have the Jak Team 100 (Prophet 100) as well as Big Troubles. I'd like to hear an opinion on how the Prophet 90's compare to the BT's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truth View Post
    No...the B3's are fucking noodles. The Blowers were soft. The Moment Ruby's are also soft, but that's what you want in a pow ski. They are TITS in deep snow.
    I'll PM skier666 as well, trying to get a feel for the Moments. my brother blew out his Goats last year and is in the market right now. He rode the Bro's and didn't likey. He had G4's before the Goats so he likes a solid ski with some flex, not a rigid beast.

    I'm pushing the indie US companies...any thoughts...Line was just bought by K2, right?

    How does the M1 compare to the Ruby?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chitown Pow View Post
    I'll PM skier666 as well, trying to get a feel for the Moments. my brother blew out his Goats last year and is in the market right now. He rode the Bro's and didn't likey. He had G4's before the Goats so he likes a solid ski with some flex, not a rigid beast.

    I'm pushing the indie US companies...any thoughts...Line was just bought by K2, right?

    How does the M1 compare to the Ruby?
    Just hand flexing, M1 is MUCH stiffer than the Ruby, esp. in the middle part of the ski. Its definitely a charger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bio-smear View Post
    I have the Jak Team 100 (Prophet 100) as well as Big Troubles. I'd like to hear an opinion on how the Prophet 90's compare to the BT's.
    I demo'd both the 90's and the BTs during the same icy day last year. Liked the 90s, hated the BTs. They felt heavy, sluggish, and not particularly stable. Of course, I only had a few runs to get a feel for each ski.

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    Further review...

    Conditions: Heavy pow with a heart windcrust. 18 to 24"

    We played with a gray area and read the Ski Area Boundary sign closing off the Strawberry side of Snowbasin as an enter at your own risk deal. Ski Patrol probably wanted it to be read as a closed sign. Se la vie. Conditions pretty much sucked and the epic traverse was a total waste of time and energy though it did provide some useful info as to what is really underfoot.

    The 90's do not like this stuff. They are too stiff and narrow to stay on top and the snow was so thick the auger in and stop you dead. What should have been ginger turns in some crappy snow became riding the tails and preying the didn't submarine and toss you. Traversing through it proved fruitless and was in fact a stomping death march.

    These skis will be great inbounds 12" or less. For anything deeper or heavy I'll stick with my Ruby's as they can't be sunk. Where the hell are my Praxis anyway? I bet they'd have ruled that shit.

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    anyone with prophet 90 vs. prophet 100 thoughts.
    Are they the same ski just different dimensions?
    Truth- Do you think the wider tips on the 100's would have avoided the dive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by XtrPickels View Post
    anyone with prophet 90 vs. prophet 100 thoughts.
    Are they the same ski just different dimensions?
    Truth- Do you think the wider tips on the 100's would have avoided the dive?
    Maybe. To me it seemed the stiffness of the ski, especially the tip was the issue. Remember, this was UBER heavy snow with a crust, much of it from them gunning snow onto the pow to try to open the Strawberry side of the mountain. It was burly snow for sure but it sucked, the 90's sucked in it and the whole idea to head back there was retarded. I think the 90 is the stiffest of the Prophet's though don't hold me to that. I know it's stiffer than the 130. We'll be back out there tomorrow to shoot some uber slutty psuedo pow pics for the Meatdrink spancers. I'll be on the Ruby's with dukes so worst case scenario I can tour my way out rather than stomping like I did for 45 minutes today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by truth View Post
    Maybe. To me it seemed the stiffness of the ski, especially the tip was the issue. Remember, this was UBER heavy snow with a crust, much of it from them gunning snow onto the pow to try to open the Strawberry side of the mountain. It was burly snow for sure but it sucked, the 90's sucked in it and the whole idea to head back there was retarded. I think the 90 is the stiffest of the Prophet's though don't hold me to that. I know it's stiffer than the 130. We'll be back out there tomorrow to shoot some uber slutty psuedo pow pics for the Meatdrink spancers. I'll be on the Ruby's with dukes so worst case scenario I can tour my way out rather than stomping like I did for 45 minutes today.
    You are correct that the 90s are the stiffest Prophets. The 100's definitely would have handled better out there as would have most wider skis. Few 90mm skis would have been much if any better in that though. And few if any 90mm skis I have ever skied on are as awesome all around as the Prophet 90s. Very few skis are as fun on the groom as they are in a foot of fresh, and you clearly just need a heavy crud/heavy deep snow specific ski to have a lot of fun when the snow gets manky like that.

    I can't wait till the demos are over in a week and I get first dibs at my Line reps demo fleet, the 90s will be mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skimasterflex View Post
    few skis are as fun on the groom as they are in a foot of fresh, and you clearly just need a heavy crud/heavy deep snow specific ski to have a lot of fun when the snow gets manky like that.
    Agreed. They are a ripping ski, but this is one situation they do not like to be in. I am in no way disappointed in the 90's. I made a bad call to venture into what I knew was going to be snow that they would struggle in. Tomorrow I'll be better prepared...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chitown Pow View Post
    I'll PM skier666 as well, trying to get a feel for the Moments. my brother blew out his Goats last year and is in the market right now. He rode the Bro's and didn't likey. He had G4's before the Goats so he likes a solid ski with some flex, not a rigid beast.

    I'm pushing the indie US companies...any thoughts...Line was just bought by K2, right?

    How does the M1 compare to the Ruby?


    k2 bought line last year...see bdepierre's post for an ec review of the ruby's

    i just got prophet 100's and gettin mojo 15's put on this week, cant wait to try them out. ur review was very similar to what people have said in the past about them which is good.
    -Ryan

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    Quote Originally Posted by XtrPickels View Post
    anyone with prophet 90 vs. prophet 100 thoughts.
    Are they the same ski just different dimensions?
    Truth- Do you think the wider tips on the 100's would have avoided the dive?

    probably. the 100's are 135 at the tips. they are still stiff but as previously stated, not as stiff as the 90's.
    -Ryan

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    I just want to make a reccomendation: Don't buy the Prophet 90. Get the 100.
    Wagner Custom Skis
    Powder snow skiing is not fun. It’s life, fully lived, life lived in a blaze of reality. What we experience in powder is the original human self, which lies deeply inside each of us, still undamaged in spite of what our present culture tries to do to us. Once experienced, this kind of living is recognized as the only way to live–fully aware of the earth and the sky and the gods and you, the mortal, playing among them. Dolores LaChapelle

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    Quote Originally Posted by stihletto View Post
    I just want to make a reccomendation: Don't buy the Prophet 90. Get the 100.
    That's idiotic. They are different skis that do different things well. The 90 will kill the 100 on hard snow. I bought the 90 for hard snow.

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    Truth, have you had a chance to ski these in any shallow powder (12' or under)? I'm looking at these as my east coast, everyday but ice, skis and am wondering what you think of them after you've had a chance to ski them for a few more weeks in some different condidtions. Then again, with the snow you've had at SBasin you've probably been skiing your fat boards.

    I am torn between the 186's and 179's. I'm your size + 20lbs. I was leaning towards (I should'nt write this) the 179's due to tight eastern trees, and relatively narrow crowded trails which often require a lot of quick short turns in addition to GS sized turns. After reading your review it sounds like 186 might be the better size. Do the tails release easily to allow quick smear turns when neccesary? Im assuming you are gonna tell me to go with the 186, but I gotta ask, what length do you think would be better for the east coast?

    Great review, Thanks
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    team 100 (prophet 100)

    I just had these setup in a 179, im 5 11 and 160. This ski really is amazing, so far it feels like it's a very carvey board though. I haven't quite figured out how to bang out gs turns in crud but it's amazing at tight turns and edging. As for powder I haven't had it in much but tight woods with sluffs of powder, but it's amazing there. Feels impossible to sink. I think I could have gone one size up on these boards and been just as happy.

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    Update:

    Spring skiing conditions...corn, glop, mashed taters, cordura sloppy wet pow, avy debris etc etc etc.

    Awesomeness! These things rail everything outside of pro mogul tour trenches. Like to make GS turns at speed through anything. Total slayer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truth View Post
    No...the B3's are fucking noodles. The Blowers were soft. The Moment Ruby's are also soft, but that's what you want in a pow ski. They are TITS in deep snow.
    I agree with you about every Bandit (1, 2, 3, & 4), but not about the Squad. The Squad has two sheets of titanium or titanal (a titanium-aluminum alloy), just like most Blizzard powder skis, some Elans (666, 777, & 999), and Dynastar's 8000, 8800, & the Pro Rider XL.

    The G4 was sort of soft in the tip, but overall I would say that it's relatively stiff ski.

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