WWMD: House Buying

[TAFKALVS]

Help decide the fate of Leavenworth Skier:

1.) Hold Out because the market is going to tank soon due to QE coming to an end and other zerohedge doom/gloom predictions.

2.) Buy house #1 that is on 5 Acres with 3 large shops but is only a single bedroom home and a really weird 1980s architectural experiment. The house is large (2k sqft) but has no bedrooms. 2 bathrooms. 2 open floors with partitions. Would need some remodeling if we had kids. Shops are desirable because of my hobbies.

3.) Buy house #2 that is on 22 acres, nice house but no shop other than a weird carport. 4 Bed/2Bath, 2200 sqft. Beautiful property, gently sloping hillside all the way to the summit of a 3000' ridge. Very nice house, built in

4.) Buy 70 acres with well and site built, and jump into building a house.

Assume all are a similar distance to work, all are a nice setting, and the net result would be about the same cost. First time homebuyer. Currently renting a low cost place, and should we go with option #3 could afford rent plus land/construction loan payments no problem.

[4matic]

It's harder to get a loan for raw land. Rates look like they are headed lower so don't expect a rate induced crash anytime soon.

[NW_SKIER]

I would go with option number three, and build a shop. Pole buildings are cheap

[Timberridge]

Tiny house living or building in trees seems to be the rage these days. Something ~600 sq ft with a nice view of the ocean.

[wyeaster]

4 gives you a buffer off the grid a bit,possible production of some kind, investment for future if you can subdivide. build a simple small open floor plan house with the intent to make additions as necessary. shop is an easy addition or separate building.

i see a marijuana grow operation in your future!

[wyeaster]

commune with food production for when the shit hits the fan and you and your friends need to pool resources and weapons.

[hatchgreenchile]

Need pics of the kooky house, that option sounds intriguing.

[AK47bp]

Option 4.

Since your area will be a Seattle suburb in 15 years that land will make $$$$ selling it to condo developers. There will be a Whole Foods and a Dog Spa there in no time.

[neufox47]

#3 definitely. Doesn't even seem close. A pole barn is a much easier fix than buildibg a house or significantly altering one.

Besides then you get to build your sweet shop just the way you want.

[capulin overdrive]

3 shops sounds the most interesting to me.

Don't agree that it's cheap to add a shop, especially if they have cement floors.

[RootSkier]

Another vote for #3.

[fatnslow]

I don't know how "easy" it is building there but that in itself can be a marriage killer. I'm not in favor of doing a shitload of renovation post purchase , especially if money is a factor. Things always cost twice as much and three times longer than you ballpark.
From the options #3 would be my choice as long as your wife thinks it's a nice house. Shops are much cheaper to build than a full blown kitchen and two bathroom remodel.
Don't know about inventory in your area but less you have to to better IMO, wait for the place you want to live in.

[Danno]

Buy the red one.

[Danno]

based on the limited info provided, I'd choose option 3 and build a shop (if it's really needed).

[::: :::]

3 for simplicity
4 for the business is doing well and you want to go custom

[GoldMember]

I would vote for number 3. Much easier and cost effective to build a shop than to remodel a house plus you've got considerably more acreage.

3 shops sounds the most interesting to me.

Don't agree that it's cheap to add a shop, especially if they have cement floors.

Concrete. It's fucking concrete! Cement is an ingredient in concrete.

Sorry, just had to get that out.

[TAFKALVS]

It's harder to get a loan for raw land. Rates look like they are headed lower so don't expect a rate induced crash anytime soon.

THAT'S WHAT THE BANKERS SAY, BUT RON PAUL SEZ BUY MORE GOLD!!!

I would go with option number three, and build a shop. Pole buildings are cheap

Yeah. #3...Dude it's a bitchin' spot, if it happens I'll be able to set up a downhill mountain bike trail and a rifle range. And probably have good skiing during the right kind of winter.

Tiny house living or building in trees seems to be the rage these days. Something ~600 sq ft with a nice view of the ocean.

how about a normal house in the mountains?

i see a marijuana grow operation in your future!

Dumb county has basically outlawed growing. https://www.wenatcheeworld.com/news/...-cannabis-ban/

commune with food production for when the shit hits the fan and you and your friends need to pool resources and weapons.

option #3 has that capability and is at the very top of canyon, so you have good overwatch opportunities.

Need pics of the kooky house, that option sounds intriguing.

It's basically this but red. Not going to post the actual pic, I know you kooks will reverse google that shit and find out where I live. gotta maintain opsec.

Option 4.

Since your area will be a Seattle suburb in 15 years that land will make $$$$ selling it to condo developers. There will be a Whole Foods and a Dog Spa there in no time.

#3 definitely. Doesn't even seem close. A pole barn is a much easier fix than buildibg a house or significantly altering one.

Besides then you get to build your sweet shop just the way you want.

Agreed on all fronts.

3 shops sounds the most interesting to me.

Don't agree that it's cheap to add a shop, especially if they have cement floors.

The 3 shops are pretty neat, one has 4 bays, the other 2 are insulated single bay 20x30 things.

Another vote for #3.

Starting to see a trend.

I don't know how "easy" it is building there but that in itself can be a marriage killer. I'm not in favor of doing a shitload of renovation post purchase , especially if money is a factor. Things always cost twice as much and three times longer than you ballpark.
From the options #3 would be my choice as long as your wife thinks it's a nice house. Shops are much cheaper to build than a full blown kitchen and two bathroom remodel.
Don't know about inventory in your area but less you have to to better IMO, wait for the place you want to live in.

Wife is fully stoked on #3

Buy the red one.

#2 is red...

based on the limited info provided, I'd choose option 3 and build a shop (if it's really needed).

Shop really is needed. I am a collector of derelict and poorly running 80s vehicles. Suburbans, Isuzu Troopers, Jeeps. If it has rudimentary fuel injection and questionable wiring, I'm down.

4 for the business is doing well and you want to go custom

you might know a guy, eh?

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Ron Paul 2008!!!!

I would vote for number 3. Much easier and cost effective to build a shop than to remodel a house plus you've got considerably more acreage.

#3 is winning out I think.

[adrenalated]

Poorly running 80s vehicles means your "3 shops" will quickly become one space where you can kinda work on shit and the other two will just be stuffed full of shit. You're not going to work out of three separate spaces.

Buy #3, build the kind of shop you want. Compared to building or renovating a house, building a shop is much cheaper and easier.

[LightRanger]

#3 for sure, provided you like the house.

[TAFKALVS]

Poorly running 80s vehicles means your "3 shops" will quickly become one space where you can kinda work on shit and the other two will just be stuffed full of shit. You're not going to work out of three separate spaces.

Buy #3, build the kind of shop you want. Compared to building or renovating a house, building a shop is much cheaper and easier.

I could string big blue tarps between the shops for additional storage space?

[iceman]

You got different wheels in motion there. Building custom will cost more, but you get what you want. Plus it's on 70 acres. If you can swing the money to build I lean that way.

[TAFKALVS]

You got different wheels in motion there. Building custom will cost more, but you get what you want. Plus it's on 70 acres. If you can swing the money to build I lean that way.

on the scale from poor skibum to high-roller deer valley pedestrian, I'm closer to poor skibum. #3 wins again.

[GimpToo]

Poorly running 80s vehicles means your "3 shops" will quickly become one space where you can kinda work on shit and the other two will just be stuffed full of shit. You're not going to work out of three separate spaces.

Buy #3, build the kind of shop you want. Compared to building or renovating a house, building a shop is much cheaper and easier.

Winner!!

[The AD]

Tiny house living or building in trees seems to be the rage these days. Something ~600 sq ft with a nice view of the ocean.

Ocean views near Leavenworth are extremely limited

[digitaldeath]

buy the shit land then buy 8 40foot shipping containers and stack em like logs