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04-20-2021, 04:10 PM #4051
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04-20-2021, 04:10 PM #4052
leave JBJ out of this
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04-20-2021, 04:12 PM #4053
IMV you can't really have a discussion about response to this pandemic, the rollout of vaccines, or other measures without talking about how our elected leaders are guiding that response. People shouldn't demand that threads be moved to asshattery because XYZ politician that they like is being dragged through the mud for their actions or inactions as they relate to the pandemic response. The positive and negative actions of our elected leaders should be fair game in the PR for these types of topics.
Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that
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04-20-2021, 04:14 PM #4054Banned
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04-20-2021, 04:28 PM #4055
Poll shows J&J pause has not increased vaccine hesitancy
https://arstechnica.com/science/2021...ine-hesitancy/
https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-pol...onavirus-index
Interesting.
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04-20-2021, 04:31 PM #4056
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04-20-2021, 05:28 PM #4057
If your friend had a stroke they very likely had a cat scan of their head - which would tell them where in their brain the stroke happened - and would therefore help show whether this is the type of stroke associated with certain covid vaccines.
And this info would be communicated to your friend (or their family if your friend passed away). Before you continue to spread this story around you might consider clarifying just what it is you are taking about.
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04-20-2021, 05:37 PM #4058
got my 2nd Pfizer this morning
I had zero side effects from the 1st one aside from a mildly sore arm (way less achy than when I got a tetanus booster last yr)
will report back tmrw
another great thing is that I usually buy my mom something big she needs for Mother's day (one yr I bought her a new car) and this yr she just wants a hug - bonus!skid luxury
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04-20-2021, 05:47 PM #4059
Moderna #2 yesterday morning kicked my ass. Went to bed feeling feverish and shitty, had very vibrant dreams while waking up frequently with a sense of dread, and woke up this morning with a temp of 99. Super achy and temperature sensitive all day. Back to 90% now, just the charlie horse in my arm, but it's quickly getting better.
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04-20-2021, 05:52 PM #4060
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04-20-2021, 06:02 PM #4061
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04-20-2021, 06:26 PM #4062
Or bad touch.
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04-20-2021, 06:32 PM #4063Registered User
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04-20-2021, 06:34 PM #4064
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04-20-2021, 06:41 PM #4065
Last edited by KQ; 04-20-2021 at 07:05 PM.
“When you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something. To do something." Rep. John Lewis
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04-20-2021, 06:47 PM #4066Registered User
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04-20-2021, 07:22 PM #4067
This question might have been addressed. Hell, I may have asked the question and I forgot, (these threads go too fast for me).
First of all: my Wife and I are both fully vaccinated. About 3 weeks out from the 2nd PFE jab.
More importantly, we got the first and second shots as soon as we could! I believe in the vaccines!
Q: the vax studies were done a while back. I am going to assume that most people willing to be in the trials were wearing masks in public, not gathering or being in crowds. Basically, I’m betting lost folks were following the health measures.
Wtf happens with vaccine efficacy/efficiency when “we” rip those masks off and start cozying up with others, especially indoors?
Science can’t measure that shit as far as I can tell.
I’m all about wearing a good mask if I’m in public, (inside or outside in a congregate setting).
Again...I trust these things but I’m wondering how the super duper numbers we hear about now will translate to the real world
Disclaimer: I understand if the overwhelming population complies with the basic Heath measures even after vaccination we just might see that 90+%.
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04-20-2021, 07:29 PM #4068
They compared the vaccine group with a group who got placebos. But neither group knew which group they were in. On average, both groups are very very likely to have done the same sorts of things with respect to masks and everything. The numbers were calculated by comparing infections between those groups and would probably be the same if both groups followed no safety protocols. As long as they act about the same as each other.
ETA: IANAD/Eetc....someone who can explain that better will be along shortly. Most likely.
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04-20-2021, 07:46 PM #4069
Excellent point. There were undoubtedly some people in the vaccinated group who were not immune but didn't get covid because they were never exposed and there is no way to know how large the number is. Of course there were also placebo patients who didn't get sick for the same reason--most of them. Based on the difference in cases between the vaccine and placebo groups it is likely the number is small, but it is also likely that real world numbers won't be as good as trial numbers. I assume that the trial groups will be followed long enough to observe the efficacy without masks and distancing.
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04-20-2021, 08:06 PM #4070
My BIL in a trial group still hasn't found out if he got the vaccine or the placebo. They will never tell him. FWIW he's fully happy to comply with all required safety protocols like masks, but he also took a bunch of plane trips for work and to visit family.
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04-20-2021, 08:33 PM #4071“When you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something. To do something." Rep. John Lewis
Kindness is a bridge between all people
Dunkin’ Donuts Worker Dances With Customer Who Has Autism
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04-20-2021, 08:45 PM #4072
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04-20-2021, 09:11 PM #4073
Of that population, I wonder how many have already had or will get COVID19 and therefore derive a degree of immunity. A significant proportion of that population seems more likely to get exposed due to ignoring and/or actually actively flaunting their opposition to masking/social distancing protocols (Norwegian COVID parties, anyone?) as they are ideologically inclined against any means of attenuating the pandemic, since it's all part and parcel of a vast duhJoos/libtarded child-sex-and-organ-harvesting conspiracy anyway.
I'm certain there are modeling studies that take this into account in their calculations, but I haven't seen them myself.
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04-20-2021, 09:51 PM #4074
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04-21-2021, 12:06 AM #4075
I've been thinking about the same thing since we will need to figure it out at some point, or maybe it will become evident should herd immunity occur even though only 70ish % of people get the vax? It probably just bolster the antivaxxer movement, with those folks (i.e., Julia Mancuso, etc.) saying something like "see, the vaccines didn't solve the pandemic...thankfully I wasn't a test case for these experimental drugs!"
Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that
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