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  1. #276
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    2017 Cochise 120 26.5: 1,880g
    Shell 1,417g (without soles 1,309g), liner 463g, soles w/o screws: 105g

    2017 0G Guide 26.5: 1,660g
    Shell 1,336g (without soles 1,193g), liner: 357g, soles w/o screws: 132g

    2017 0G Pro 26.5: 1,540g
    Shell 1,320g, liner 220g, soles w/o screws: 132g

    27 Power Wrap, 286g
    27 Pro Tongue, 360g
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  2. #277
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    So... fine. But as a Cochise 120 owner no way would I get a second pair of boots to save 250 grams but i might for 500-600 grams if the fit was similar. That’s my point.
    I ski 135 degree chutes switch to the road.

  3. #278
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    Zeal has had polarized photochromatic lenses for years, how is this Oakley thing better than that?
    "High risers are for people with fused ankles, jongs and dudes who are too fat to see their dick or touch their toes.
    Prove me wrong."
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  4. #279
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    Put finger prints all over the new Mantra M5 today. Not sure if it’s a replacement or little bro to the current Mantra? Adding to the candidate list for an inbound travel ski....


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  5. #280
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    Quote Originally Posted by N1CK. View Post
    cool concept.
    (2:30 to skip to the demo)
    oh oh... with my Oakley addiction they might have to be bought...

    I do prefer now Hi Pink for those real low light days but Rose is almost the same in the real world skiing....

  6. #281
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    Checked out the electric Scott at ISPO, they did not have a pack there that was activated all day, they decided to show the pack and the system separately wich could be activated without airbag. Unfortunately it was impossible to find someone in the booth that really knew details. It said you could activate the system twice, but also that you could re-load the system by replacing two AA bateries? How does that work? Anyone with more info?

    Oh and Pieps decided to re-start production of their Jetforce so they have packs to sell for next winter, BD will not.
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  7. #282
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    BTW Wed'ze have had similar 'click to change' goggles for over a year now: http://www.fall-line.co.uk/tried-tes...t-ski-goggles/

    The tech does work, but the goggles themselves are ugly as fuck and I'm assuming the Oakleys will be much better optically.

  8. #283
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    Last edited by smooth operator; 01-30-2018 at 07:00 AM. Reason: I am a tosser and I cant embed instagram stuff here

  9. #284
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    and wazzup with the different colored zeroG skis? (95 & 85). Women version?
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  10. #285
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    Quote Originally Posted by smooth operator View Post
    That looks so sick. Metal competitor for Tecton. If somehow they will make it under 600gr.... that will be awesome

  11. #286
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    Quote Originally Posted by smooth operator View Post
    and wazzup with the different colored zeroG skis? (95 & 85). Women version?
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    Two shades of zeroG95. Red and Green. Grey ski is the W’s 85.

  12. #287
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    I can totally understand that. Now was the $299 just for the lens or the whole goggle? I really don't think $299 is that bad for the whole setup as a normal pair of Oakleys is about $200 anyways. Another concern i have is what if (when) i scratch the lens and that needs to be replaced? i assume that's gonna cost a good deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by skizix View Post
    Sure enough, but what is the tech? Is it entirely dependent on having a battery with a charge? If so not interested (just like I fkg don't want my kitchen faucet or stove dependent on a good internet connection - adding a point of failure for added functionality of questionable value is utterly stupid, though it seems to be a trend these days).

    If it's like e-ink (like an OG kindle), where it only takes electricity to change the display, and is then stable w/ or w/o electricity, it would be ok. But if it's like Turbofan's, where if you let the battery drain (easy to do: forget to turn them off at the end of the day) they are worse than the worst non-fan goggle, I'm out.

  13. #288
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    Quote Originally Posted by smooth operator View Post
    Interesting timing for BD to start distributing (some) ATK bindings just as they begin to offer a direct competitor to the Tecton.

  14. #289
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    Yup, that ATK looks pretty cool.
    Well maybe I'm the faggot America
    I'm not a part of a redneck agenda

  15. #290
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    I'm worried about the complexity of these and other new bindings, like the shift.

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  16. #291
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghini View Post
    Checked out the electric Scott at ISPO, they did not have a pack there that was activated all day, they decided to show the pack and the system separately wich could be activated without airbag. Unfortunately it was impossible to find someone in the booth that really knew details. It said you could activate the system twice, but also that you could re-load the system by replacing two AA bateries? How does that work? Anyone with more info?
    Yeah, my understanding from talking to the girl at the booth is that you get two pulls on a fully charged system, then you need to recharge it either by replacing the AA batteries or plugging it in with a USB cable. Supposedly you'll be able to charge it on a power pack or Goal Zero type device.

    Only one pack body for next year, and it's a pretty slimmed down/minimalist 30L version. No separate avy tools compartment, not much suspension, etc. They clearly wanted to publish the lowest possible weight on the first iteration. Still, cool technology, and I'll be interested once there are more choices for pack bodies.

  17. #292
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    Quote Originally Posted by smooth operator View Post
    Man lots of little fasteners on that toe, also snow likes sticking to metal more than plastic. Wonder what the weight is.
    TLDR; Ski faster. Quit breathing. Don't crash.

  18. #293
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    Quote Originally Posted by smooth operator View Post
    Rad.

    I tore the fingers on my glove just watching the heel work. Seems like gratuitous stabby edges.

  19. #294
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    Quote Originally Posted by N1CK. View Post
    Rad.

    I tore the fingers on my glove just watching the heel work. Seems like gratuitous stabby edges.
    The CLAW!

  20. #295
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    Quote Originally Posted by N1CK. View Post
    cool concept.
    (2:30 to skip to the demo)
    Okay, that's pretty damn sweet. True innovation. I had heard a few years back they were working on this but didn't think we'd see it this soon. My only concern is how well the electronics hold up after getting soaking wet but surely with goggles they addressed it.

  21. #296
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    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...VAG5AL6Mb1vUg5

    Apparently 550 g including brake


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  22. #297
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandbox View Post
    I can totally understand that. Now was the $299 just for the lens or the whole goggle? I really don't think $299 is that bad for the whole setup as a normal pair of Oakleys is about $200 anyways. Another concern i have is what if (when) i scratch the lens and that needs to be replaced? i assume that's gonna cost a good deal.
    thats a very good point...

  23. #298
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    The black crows regular Corvus goes reverse camber next year. will the freebird version too?

  24. #299
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    Quote Originally Posted by rod9301 View Post
    I'm worried about the complexity of these and other new bindings, like the shift.

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    No longer " low tech"
    a positive attitude will not solve all of your problems, but it may annoy enough people to make it worth the effort

    Formerly Rludes025

  25. #300
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andyski View Post
    The black crows regular Corvus goes reverse camber next year. will the freebird version too?
    So like a fatter daemon?

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