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Thread: Unicorn touring ski
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12-31-2019, 07:17 AM #26
Anything with Black Crows in the name seems to be endowed with Pixie Fairy Dust.
Why not buy a pair and post
yet another review or
retarded question
in tech.
jong.OH, MY GAWD! ―John Hillerman Big Billie Eilish fan.
But that's a quibble to what PG posted (at first, anyway, I haven't read his latest book) ―jono
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12-31-2019, 08:33 AM #27
Another option: make your own unicorn. Find a used el cheapo ski closest to what u want and just rebend the rocker profile into what u want.
To wit: customized circa 2002/3ish Rossignol B3 Bandits. Eliminated the underfoot camber and bent in a good, long tip rocker and shorter section of slight tail rocker. Both contact points equidistant from boot center..all optimized for sand and gravel skiing and tweaked to perfection. Also tested on snow and they ski way better than stock; for groomers; loose and slarvy if desired or locked in and rail g.s. turns. Pow turns also improved; pivoty, poppy, better rebound and more centered balance point.
Somewhere on tech talk there's a few 'how to' threads. In my case, the Rossi's didn't need any extravagant procedures; with the foam core and alu layer, they bent...and rebent...and rebent again with further tweaking quite easily simply by shoving tips/tails under a door and reefing up on the ski.
Master of mediocrity.
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12-31-2019, 08:40 AM #28"When the child was a child it waited patiently for the first snow and it still does"- Van "The Man" Morrison
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12-31-2019, 08:42 AM #29"When the child was a child it waited patiently for the first snow and it still does"- Van "The Man" Morrison
"I find I have already had my reward, in the doing of the thing" - Buzz Holmstrom
"THIS IS WHAT WE DO"-AML -ski on in eternal peace
"I have posted in here but haven't read it carefully with my trusty PoliAsshat antenna on."-DipshitDanno
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12-31-2019, 10:27 AM #30
Hrrrmmm. I thought these were much heavier, 1530g in a 177 is pretty tempting actually. I might go fondle a pair...
I don't think I buy the thing about edge hold either tbh, but they're much less funky in bad snow, which is the main thing for me. I don't ski them inbounds ever, so I don't care about carving or whatever, and I can turn them fine myself in pow. Long radius, low tail splay, tip rocker means easy release in weird funky wind-fucked snow, crusts, etc, at least in my experience. I found the same thing with my 32m radius PMGear Bros, my 41m radius CD102L, and my current 29m radius LD90s. My 18 or 19m radius Movement Response-X (which I unreservedly love and is basically the perfect ultralight touring ski aside from this) gets caught up in funky snow, so I usually only ski them when I am sure it's gonna be pow or corn.
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12-31-2019, 10:37 AM #31
I've only got one ski in my quiver – for low tide resort days – under 26m radius at this point, having figured out by now what I like. I think you've got it exactly right. I don't buy the stronger edge hold thing either, but long radii (especially when combined with not much tip taper) makes for a ski that tracks way better in chunky, weird snow, and with modern rocker profiles you can still release it and turn without having to lean on the sidecut to bring the ski into a full carve.
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12-31-2019, 10:42 AM #32User
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I want this ski too. Basically, I wish I could take the V-werks Katana, make it 100ish in the waist and weigh 1400g. In a 182-184 please.
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12-31-2019, 11:06 AM #33
Dynafit Beast 98
Volkl Mantra V-Werks
Volkl BMT 94 (as mentioned)
4FRNT Raven - maybe the best variable condition backcountry ski IMO.
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12-31-2019, 01:39 PM #34Galibier Designcrafting technology in service of music
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12-31-2019, 02:46 PM #35
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12-31-2019, 07:55 PM #36Registered User
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To this point, don’t rule out the ZeroG 85s. Mine came with essentially zero camber and therefore handle a bit of soft snow much better than expected. I’m 5’11”, 160lbs on the 171s as a mountaineering ski and had no issue skiing 2-4 inches of hot pow, albeit with a 25mph speed limit.
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01-01-2020, 09:52 AM #37
Do you have a pic to show this?
It's becoming a little frustrating to me that skis are leaving any factory with an unpredictable rocker profile. Especially when you're a boutique maker you need to assume a lot of people are buying the ski for that unique rocker profile... but more than one manufacturer are letting miss-pressed skis leave the factory and they buyer doesn't know what they're getting. See the thread on the corvus for reference.
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01-01-2020, 11:41 AM #38
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01-02-2020, 09:19 AM #39
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01-02-2020, 05:44 PM #40Registered User
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You are a big boy! Seems like the 189cm Vision 108 might be the better call if you are looking for float. Would it be part of a bigger touring quiver or your only touring ski?
I toured my 179cm Vision 98s with Xenics at PC before the lifts were spinning today. As predicted, a joy to skin uphill. Downhill, they did well for their weight class. Calm and predictable, good damping, easy to carve or smear, easy to ski forward or centered. Granted it was not real backcountry touring conditions. But I would say they don’t give up much downhill performance vs 184 Ravens on smoother, firmer 2D snow, while being 300gm lighter.
Time will tell if they do as well as the Ravens in funky 3D backcountry snow.
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01-04-2020, 10:13 AM #41
This thread has my attention.
If we have the resources to do something like this, it'll be on the 104/104L.
Pics of the old rev camber CD6. Imagining something similar.
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01-04-2020, 01:22 PM #42Registered User
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01-04-2020, 01:27 PM #4310 out of 10
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Dynastar Mythic is a nice option, rocker tip, camber, flat tail.
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01-04-2020, 04:23 PM #44
Unicorn touring ski
Weight/specs on the 104L are impressive. I’d be interested. That said, I still think a 95ish waisted ski with a similar profile would be a real hit.
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01-04-2020, 06:33 PM #45
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01-04-2020, 07:16 PM #46Registered User
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These seem in the ballpark.
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01-04-2020, 08:30 PM #47
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