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09-22-2021, 03:10 PM #51
I can't help but view any ski over 95mm waist as a powder ski.
But I'm really old.
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09-22-2021, 03:21 PM #52
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09-22-2021, 03:27 PM #53Registered User
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so 3 pages of wanking and we still don't know if the ski store staff was bull shitting or if there is a new trend in ski retail ?
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09-22-2021, 03:31 PM #54
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09-22-2021, 04:02 PM #55Registered User
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I think I know which shop this is because I asked that exact same question last year and basically got the same answer. I think I was talking to the shop ski buyer as I was looking for an Enforcer 110 and he said that the wide powder skis didn't really sell anymore and besides, he said the powder days at Park City are gone and not coming back... Little bit of debbie downer so maybe I chatted him up on the wrong day and the wrong time but yes, it does seem that at the end of the season, the skis still left on the wall are the big skis.
I also think PC and especially PCMR are tourist heavy and maybe the primary customer is the person coming in for a week or two of skiing and so probably not looking for a powder ski.The K-12 dude. You make a gnarly run like that and girls will get sterile just looking at you - Charles De Mar
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09-22-2021, 05:11 PM #56Registered User
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The answer to your question is absolutely yes. Powder skis just don't sell.
Look at the 21/22 Ski mag's "Powder Skis" buyers guide here. I know a dozen or more people who daily drive the Rustler 11 or MFree 108. The trend has been away from the 110+ segment for more than a few years now. Some of us will always need and want real powder skis, but the people who buy skis off the wall at shops don't.Last edited by ASmileyFace; 09-22-2021 at 06:00 PM.
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09-22-2021, 05:17 PM #57
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09-22-2021, 05:20 PM #58
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09-22-2021, 06:26 PM #59Registered User
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The days of >110 underfoot pow skis are gone...
I paid $129 delivered for my Cham127’s.
I probably ski them 15 days a year.
I don’t really plan on replacing them anytime soon.
Nobody’s making money on powder skis.
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09-22-2021, 06:41 PM #60
I call nonsense. Praxis protest back up at $550 and one of the best fat skis around. Support the indies!!!!
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09-22-2021, 07:39 PM #61Meadowskipping old fart
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09-22-2021, 08:34 PM #62
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09-22-2021, 08:39 PM #63
My man! Stormy days are better than powder days. Don’t tell anyone
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09-22-2021, 08:48 PM #64
I tech in a shop and It’s becoming the norm. The average joe doesn’t ski enough to warrant a large quiver of skis. So they just sit around collect dust, maybe move a pair or two, then they go online or to a changing season sale priced at cost. We try to order skis for customers when they request, this last year that wasn’t possible due to the supply chain shortage.
The order goes out a year in advance and it’s based on an algorithm of what product sold the best that year based of of ski specs(turn radius, weight, how easily they are to ski). Wider waisted skis are not the norm for the once a month weekend warrior, so they don’t sell. Dollars and cents are what matter at the end of the day.
We know that there are other companies that offer a better selection of pow specific skis. We encourage consumers that want them to just buy direct and bring them in for a Mount so we don’t get stuck with them in may.
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09-22-2021, 09:03 PM #65Registered User
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09-22-2021, 09:32 PM #66
The days of >110 underfoot pow skis are gone...
Skis are starting to show up. We are out in the Sierras and the skis that did the beat this year were fisher FR 102, Volkl m5 mantra. 95-105 waisted skis are the easiest all mountain ski to sell out here. Those are the men’s skis I can say those skis almost ski themselves. I’d say with confidence that skis similar to this will be more plentiful. I know the supply chain has effected some Indy builders and their ability to source raw materials. If it were me (which i already did) get on pre orders and don’t wait to replace the one spot in your quiver since it may not come.
Still unsure on the supply chain for bikes, companies have their frames and other proprietary items but the components from outside sources take while. When we were closing out the season the rep from Pivot said they estimate 1.5-2 years until the supply chain is fixed and it’s not a 6 month or more lead time.
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09-22-2021, 09:38 PM #67
This is all a load of BS. I was ski buyer until 2 years ago. If you want be a ski shop in the west you need to have some pow skis on that wall in the fall. I get being sold out buy Christmas but there is no risk in bringing in 4-8 pair of real skis. Worse case you sell them at cost. If you’re shop can’t float 1400-2000 in inventory for the season then you got bigger problems. They are show pieces to get people stoked, you hook up a couple locals and get lucky on a few pair to some Texans. In the end nobody looses. Sounds like shitty management to me.
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09-22-2021, 09:52 PM #68
The keyword is “some,” but I’ll quote myself.
The original question was is this the norm? Not having a large selection of pow specific skis is it. A lot of shops got hit hard by the pandemic now they need to tighten up their margins to get back on track.
I’m not economist, but I’d rather have a bunch of skis to make money on than ones that just get sold off at cost at the end of the season.
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09-22-2021, 10:08 PM #69
If you really want a pow-specific ski over 110mm, you likely know exactly where to buy one, and apparently it's not OP's brick-and-mortar in Park City . . .
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09-22-2021, 10:10 PM #70
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09-22-2021, 10:14 PM #71
I hear what your saying and different regions were definitely hit harder than others last year. I’m just saying having the big ski that sits there sells your other skis. It’s hard to quantify that but it works. It’s why every car dealership has top of the line model or two sitting inside on the showroom.
Not the norm in NW Montana and we barely get snow.a positive attitude will not solve all of your problems, but it may annoy enough people to make it worth the effort
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09-22-2021, 11:59 PM #72
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09-23-2021, 12:50 AM #73
I think this is a Park City thing. It's full of texan and NY'ers with their 3rd and 4th houses who just ski groomers and like to eat and drink more than ski. There isn't a whole lot of terrain on that side of Wasatch or days with serious dumps to warrant the tourons needing fat skis. Cruise around the bend to AltaBird, up to JH or over to the Sierras and it's a different story. Plenty of fat skis there.
That said, I agree with Eluder. It's sorta like Acura making the NSX. It's a Halo ski and you don't need a lot to make the wall look legit core.
I also think a 108mm ski can function like a much wider ski depending on rocker and flex pattern so the days of only relying on width for float are over. That is just the evolution of ski design and everyone finds what works for them. I do think it's lame when ski shops only have the touron skis.He who has the most fun wins!
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09-23-2021, 01:11 AM #74Hucked to flat once
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I have not worked in a shop in a long time so grain of salt here. There were three types of folks selling skis to people who bought skis at retail in a ski shop; 1-the guy/gal who sold skis based on the buyers dream of how they wanted to ski, 2-the guy/gal who sold skis after asking questions and figuring out what a buyer would actually have fun on, 3-the guy/gal who didn't know what they fuck they were talking about. Depending on the customer, 1-3 all could sell skis. 1 and 2 could sell skis to people who at least skied some. 2 would get repeat customers with 1 occasionally nailing it with the well healed bro picking up his winter sticks in front of his fake titted wife.
I think with supply issues and brick and mortar struggles and tight margins, shops are figuring out how to keep the lights on.
People who can really ski and want rad sticks are only paying retail at shops to help shops out or they are buying direct from rad stick makers or places like gear swap.
How many people here have walked into a shop and had a conversation with the two year veteran retail kid and had their mind blown with the shop recommended ski?
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09-23-2021, 04:49 AM #75
we had a mass rep day the past couple
nordica,, volkel,, rossi, dynastar, elan ,head/tyro, soli ,armada etc
they all bought "fat" above 106 mm skis we will be carrying this season
i think its a snark pipity shop thing
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