Why all the UFO Reports Lately?

[TBS]

No such thing as friendlies
Colonizers win, the colonized lose

Also, please reconcile your claim of life elsewhere with the Fermi Paradox

[ötzi]

Ouamuamua was on a foraging mission from the pancake galaxy. Thank god they didn't find our maple syrup.

[TBS]

So they are flat earthers?

[tetzen]

Ouamuamua was on a foraging mission from the pancake galaxy. Thank god they didn't find our maple syrup.

We should be so glad that Canadian maple syrup heist ring safely squirreled away the excess syrup in a hidden location.

[ötzi]

Right? We thought whoever took all that were just thieves but it turns out they are heroes for all mankind

[Core Shot]

He doesn't think it's a probe, more like a piece of space junk.

Don’t let it hit you in the . . .

[Dantheman]

No such thing as friendlies
Colonizers win, the colonized lose

Also, please reconcile your claim of life elsewhere with the Fermi Paradox

Define "life elsewhere"

Microbes: Probably totally ubiquitous and everywhere. There's multiple locations just in our own solar system where it's likely.

Macrobiotic multicellular organisms: Probably also quite common, though much less so than microbes.

"Intelligent" life capable of manipulating it's environment to the degree humans do: Probably pretty rare, though even if it's 1-in-a-billion probability it's still happened a hundred times or so just in the Milky Way.

Organisms capable of interstellar travel: I'm unconvinced it's ever happened. Space is really, really, reallllly fucking big.


If the last scenario has happened, besides the colonizer scenario there is the anthropologist scenario. Some humans travel around the world at great expense and personal risk to study obscure species of ants and shit. It's plausible that there are aliens out there who find Earth interesting for purely scientific purposes. The colonizer/anthropologist scenarios also are not mutually exclusive and both could be happening simultaneously. Maybe Earth isn't a rich source of whatever resources they desire so it's been left to the scientists, or maybe the scientists are being allowed to study it for a while before it's erased from existence.

[Mazderati]

Wiki literally lists two dozen hypothetical explanations for the Fermi paradox.

[BobMc]

Another one.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ew-Mexico.html

[tetzen]

Another one.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ew-Mexico.html

The common thread among these sightings is that they all are occurring within or near American airspace. Of course it could be that our media doesn't pick up much outside of US markets. Makes me think these sightings are more likely to be new military tech that just hasn't been disclosed to the public yet.

[Dantheman]

The common thread among these sightings is that they all are occurring within or near American airspace. Of course it could be that our media doesn't pick up much outside of US markets. Makes me think these sightings are more likely to be new military tech that just hasn't been disclosed to the public yet.

In 99.99% of cases, yes. However, Tic Tac was 2004 and we have yet to hear of anything remotely like it from the military. Not that it isn't/wasn't unknown military tech, but 17 years is a long time to keep something like that secret.

[old goat]

In most cases a long cylindrical object that loos like a cruise missile is a cruise missile.

[Ted Striker]

I just hope our real first contact comes from friendlies, not enslavers...

I just hope Fognl doesn't cancel the show.

[summit]

[Dantheman]

A new paper posits that Oumuamua was a lense of nitrogen ice ejected from a Pluto-like planet/object: https://phys.org/news/2021-03-scient...-oumuamua.html

[Dantheman]

60 Minutes piece from last night that contains 0% kook bullshit.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ufo-mil...nkId=118884842

[tetzen]

Crazy shit. The pilots' description of the roiling ocean water is eerie. Especially since it was 4 of them that witnessed it. Definitely seems like more than just a simple aerial phenomena at that point.

There's supposed to be a public report to Congress in a few weeks. I wonder if we will learn much more from that than we already know from these leaks?

[BobMc]

Another one, apparently can maneuver in air and water.

https://kfor.com/mystery-wire/new-vi...ing-into-ocean

[Skistack]

Maybe this all just psych ops to hide a secret military project. THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE.


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[Dantheman]

Crazy shit. The pilots' description of the roiling ocean water is eerie. Especially since it was 4 of them that witnessed it. Definitely seems like more than just a simple aerial phenomena at that point.

There's supposed to be a public report to Congress in a few weeks. I wonder if we will learn much more from that than we already know from these leaks?

I'm not sure about the roiling ocean part, but more than 4 pilots witnessed the object itself. The video was shot by a separate crew that intercepted it after it evaded Fraver and his wingwoman. When it flies out of that video it's velocity is thousands of miles per hour and it accelerated to that velocity almost instantaneously. Fraver was only out there at all because the ship-borne radar had been seeing these objects for days beforehand and they sent him to investigate.

My gut says the congressional report won't reveal much beyond what has already been leaked.

Maybe this all just psych ops to hide a secret military project. THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE.

It's certainly possible, but the behavior of some of these objects seriously strains the plausibility of that hypothesis. The TicTac object outran two F-18s like they were standing still, just vanished in an instant. The radar on the Nimitz had been seeing them descend from 80,000 ft to sea level in one second. That's 54,000 mph, which is faster than the Chelyabinsk meteor was traveling when it entered Earth's atmosphere. It's hard to believe that the US, Russian, or Chinese militaries have secret tech that advanced right now, let alone in 2004.

[PNWbrit]

Hopefully they'll probe Marco Rubio.

[abraham]

I don't follow this stuff closely at all, but Tyler rogoway's long article at the drive felt like a worthwhile look at some of these reports.

We may not know the identities of all the mysterious craft that American military personnel and others have been seeing in the skies as of late, but I have seen more than enough to tell you that it is clear that a very terrestrial adversary is toying with us in our own backyard using relatively simple technologies—drones and balloons—and making off with what could be the biggest intelligence haul of a generation. While that may disappoint some who hope the origins of all these events are far more exotic in nature, the strategic implications of these bold operations, which have been happening for years, undeterred, are absolutely massive.

Our team here at The War Zone has spent the last two years indirectly laying out a case for the hypothesis that many of the events involving supposed UFOs, or unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP), as they are now often called, over the last decade are actually the manifestation of foreign adversaries harnessing advances in lower-end unmanned aerial vehicle technology, and even simpler platforms, to gather intelligence of extreme fidelity on some of America's most sensitive warfighting capabilities. Now, considering all the news on this topic in recent weeks, including our own major story on a series of bizarre incidents involving U.S. Navy destroyers and 'UAP' off the Southern California coast in 2019, it's time to not only sum up our case, but to discuss the broader implications of these revelations, what needs to be done about them, and the Pentagon's fledgling 'UAP Task Force' as a whole.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...ke-theyre-ufos

[Meathelmet]

It's certainly possible, but the behavior of some of these objects seriously strains the plausibility of that hypothesis. The TicTac object outran two F-18s like they were standing still, just vanished in an instant. The radar on the Nimitz had been seeing them descend from 80,000 ft to sea level in one second. That's 54,000 mph, which is faster than the Chelyabinsk meteor was traveling when it entered Earth's atmosphere. It's hard to believe that the US, Russian, or Chinese militaries have secret tech that advanced right now, let alone in 2004.

If a F-18 would do that distance/speed and the kinetic energy would be what...almost two kilotons?
Hauling ass. And then stop in an instant? Not with our technology, well apart for releasing an equal energy than a small tactical nuke (or 4-5 times larger than the Beirut blast).

Or, there might be a more mundane explanation for the events.
I'll go with the latter.

[Lone Star]

were there sonic booms coming from all of these super-duper-sonic flights?

if the USA or another country were producing this technology, what interest would it have in refuting stories that these things are unexplainable and therefore extraterrestrial?

[k2skier112]

were there sonic booms coming from all of these super-duper-sonic flights?

if the USA or another country were producing this technology, what interest would it have in refuting stories that these things are unexplainable and therefore extraterrestrial?

The Aliens just switch to "quiet mode" before going hyper sonic, duh