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10-28-2019, 09:15 AM #101
I've just mounted a set of Xenics and the delta is 7.5mm (with a Scott Celeste AT boot):
I can also confirm that the Xenic toe pattern mounts within the Tecton/Evo/Vipec toe locations, assuming the same bsl. The Xenic heel pattern is identical to the Tecton/Evo/Vipec as it uses the same base plate - which also means that the longer 60mm base plate for the Tecton/Evo/Vipec will also work with the Xenic.
I don't yet have a Xenic jig but it looks like the jig would position the heel plate in the same location on the ski as that of a Tecton/Evo/Vipec - if it is different then it's only a few mm off which is easily accommodated by the length adjustment. So if you had Tectons and wanted to dual mount with inserts for the Xenic then you'd only need inserts for the toes and the heels could share the same base plate.
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10-28-2019, 10:11 AM #102Registered User
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I am intrigued by this. Spyderjon (or other binding experts), do you think it would be possible to swap out Tecton and Xenic heels via the base plate, but leave a Tecton toe in place for both set ups? Any potential reasons that retention or release wouldn’t work well with a Tecton toe and a Xenic heel?
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10-28-2019, 10:24 AM #103
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10-28-2019, 10:41 AM #104
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10-28-2019, 11:09 AM #105Registered User
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Interesting.... how does the Evo work then? It shares the lateral elasticity and potential lateral release of the Tecton toe, but doesn’t it use the standard heel pin tech of most tech bindings? Or put a different way, what is the difference between the release and retention characteristics of the Evo heel vs the Xenic heel? Evo heel is vertical release only maybe?
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10-28-2019, 11:13 AM #106
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10-28-2019, 11:13 AM #107Registered User
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10-28-2019, 11:30 AM #108
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10-28-2019, 11:56 AM #109
I didn't measure the respective pin heights, which of course remain constant. However the actual delta effect on the user is boot specific as it's essentially comparing the angle of the boot when in the binding to that when stood on a flat/horizontal surface. So my method is to measure from the lowest part of the sole at the toe and heel vertically down the the ski base. The Neutralizer balancer that my customers use to determine their ideal delta is based upon this method as it then encompasses the internal board angle and the forward lean of the cuff of their specific boot so that's why I use this method. So whilst the pin heights are constant different boots will measure differently in the same binding depending upon their sole profile.
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10-28-2019, 12:08 PM #110
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10-28-2019, 01:57 PM #111Registered User
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Last edited by billyhoyle; 10-28-2019 at 02:52 PM.
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10-28-2019, 02:51 PM #112
Tecton and Vipec Evo use the same toe (except for color), only the heel is different (Vipec heel is 50g lighter).
Last edited by 1000-oaks; 10-28-2019 at 06:52 PM.
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10-28-2019, 07:26 PM #113
This data point might be useful until we get the final returns on the pin delta for Xenics. I measured my Vipecs both ways.
Pin delta = 10.5mm (same as what skimo.co sez)
Sole delta (Zero G Pro Tours) = 5 mm (harder to measure ... figure +/- 1mm)
If the relationship between the two boots holds, then the Xenic's pin delta will be 11-12mm. From the photo however, these look like flatter binders than the Vipecs.
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10-28-2019, 07:49 PM #114
I would also be interested in the pin delta as a reference to the skimo data.
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10-30-2019, 04:50 AM #115
Xenic pin heights (from underside of binding to pin centre):
Toe = 32mm
Heel= 46.25mm (+/- a tad as it's a bitch to measure when mounted on a ski)
And the QK/BF screw spec is the same as the Tecton/Evo/Vipec Black, ie 8no. 14mm pan heads for the toe and 8no. 12mm countersunk flat heads for the heel plate.
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10-30-2019, 09:07 AM #116
Xenic maximum brake width 105mm. Max crampons width 105mm. I'll check whether that's being conservative and if so, how much wider they can go
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10-30-2019, 10:07 AM #117
Anyone know if they're planning on releasing an RV12 version for the husky gentleman?
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10-30-2019, 10:09 AM #118
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10-30-2019, 10:17 AM #119
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10-30-2019, 01:42 PM #120
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10-30-2019, 01:43 PM #121
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10-30-2019, 03:05 PM #122
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10-30-2019, 03:13 PM #123
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10-30-2019, 07:50 PM #124
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10-30-2019, 09:13 PM #125
4.5mm toe shim to match Vipec ramp eh....might be enough to make it an adapter to the Vipec pattern, lol.
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